Tiny Core Linux
Tiny Core Extensions => TCE Q&A Forum => Topic started by: TaoTePuh on September 24, 2010, 08:40:49 PM
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I would like to pass the sound of my notebook digitally (optical) to my hi-fi system.
Now I have the following hardware : UCA222
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA222.aspx
The hardware is recognized somehow, but it does not work (no sound) and ALSA plays always on the built-in sound card.
Can someone help me?
Some informations :
dmesg
usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
input: Burr-Brown from TI USB Audio CODEC as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-1/4-1:1.3/input/input4
generic-usb 0003:08BB:2902.0001: input: USB HID v1.00 Device [Burr-Brown from TI USB Audio CODEC ] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-1/input3
usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
lsusb
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 08bb:2902 Texas Instruments Japan
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Do the inputs/outputs show up in alsamixer?
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Hint:
alsamixer -c 0
alsamixer -c 1
to switch between cards.
Also, did you run 'alsaconf' after connecting the USB card?
The '-L' option might be useful.
-L|--log file logging on the specified file (for debugging purpose only)
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hi
if you prefer internal not to load.FIRST...you might be better off setting up the internal as index=1 so when you plug in the usb, index=0 is available and is grabbed by the usb device
or if you prefer not to load internal AT all....blacklist its module as per the wiki
Either technique starts the same way with TC 3x series in that you run (with usb device NOT installed)
lsmod | grep snd to find out your modules for your internal and add that to your bootloader to blacklist it
b) if you never use internal ....you do no more....and plug in usb and enjoy the benefits
c) otherwise you add some lines to your bootlocal to create index=1 for your internal sound device.
http://wiki.tinycorelinux.com/Setting+up+Sound
2) which alsamixer setting are you referring to you for digital out....spdif ?
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Thanks, you guys are great as always!
As expected, it was a hard- and software problem and it sits between my ears ...
After blacklisting all sound modules and loading the UCA222 manually as default (index 0) - I had the sound on the external device (ear phones and optical / spdif).
Meanwhile, I remembered that you can drive the sound devices separately out from mpd :
mpd.conf
audio_output {
type "alsa"
name "My ALSA Device 0"
device "hw:0,0" # optional
...
}
audio_output {
type "alsa"
name "My ALSA Device 1"
device "hw:1,0" # optional
...
}
Now I have "only" two problems left :
1.) Is it possible to run/configure ALSA in such a way that the sound will always be transmitted on multiple devices at the same time - without consideration of the program (so even if I play a song with vlc or something ...) ?
Currently my ALSA only plays on the default device (index=0).
2.) Currently alsamixer only shows me the mixer controls for PCM, but the device still has a lot more inputs and outputs. I thought I must read and understand the following, but now I am stuck ...
http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sound/alsa/ALSA-Configuration.txt - paragraph: Module snd-usb-audio
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hi
1) since you want 2 devices.....you initially blacklist your internal then re-create it to load with index=1, there is no need to force usb onto index=0.........I have failed to explain that bit to you eh?
Pls post the output of your bootlocal and your grub kernel line bootcode for blacklisting
and post in a code box the command pls.
lsmod
EDIT we will need the full list to see the usb stuff.
2) since I lack skills in mpd you may consider this link......tinypoodle or others may be able to mod it so you have
udev rules for usb sound device detected
then piping into both outputs at once.....while it appears to only swap at the moment
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=334988
3) leaping ahead.....I not sure what your sound module for usb is called
count the number of colour connectors......they are your stacks.
you have a spdif........not sure as I asked but maybe we got confused?.....pls specify if that is to be true output pls....so why the need for others?......I repeat.... which alsamixer setting are you referring to you for digital out....spdif ?
4) it might be useful to post a snapshot of your current alsamixer output screen?
5) it appears you may have only this to play with
Module snd-usb-audio
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Module for USB audio and USB MIDI devices.
vid - Vendor ID for the device (optional)
pid - Product ID for the device (optional)
nrpacks - Max. number of packets per URB (default: 8)
async_unlink - Use async unlink mode (default: yes)
device_setup - Device specific magic number (optional)
- Influence depends on the device
- Default: 0x0000
ignore_ctl_error - Ignore any USB-controller regarding mixer
interface (default: no)
This module supports multiple devices, autoprobe and hotplugging.
NB: nrpacks parameter can be modified dynamically via sysfs.
Don't put the value over 20. Changing via sysfs has no sanity
check.
NB: async_unlink=0 would cause Oops. It remains just for
debugging purpose (if any).
NB: ignore_ctl_error=1 may help when you get an error at accessing
the mixer element such as URB error -22. This happens on some
buggy USB device or the controller.
so I am guessing we could try....in your bootlocal.....optional add index=0 but I think thats unnecessary
/sbin/modprobe snd-usb-audio vid=08bb pid=2902
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above post has been editted numerous times so pls read again depending on your timezone pls.
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TaoTePuh
forgive me for only just looking at maintainer of mpd and in particular
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/tinycorelinux/3.x/tcz/mpd.tcz.info
Playback Support:
ALSA support ..................enabled
FIFO support ..................enabled
HTTP daemon support ...........enabled
JACK support ..................enabled
libao support .................enabled
OSS support ...................enabled
OS X support ..................disabled
Pipeline output support .......disabled
PulseAudio support ............enabled
Media MVP support .............enabled
SHOUTcast support .............enabled
Solaris /dev/audio support ....disabled
2) Do you have any hate of pulseaudio?
If above replies do not generate a working solution for you.....pulseaudio....running as a sound server should be able to stream outputs to both sound devices?
....I am working on a pulseaudio wiki....but I am not overly fond of it....and have limited experience of it
and IMHO....pa is not what defines Tinycore?
EDIT....a wiki now exists
http://wiki.tinycorelinux.com/pa
3) I assume you know there is a forum of MPD?
http://www.musicpd.org/forum/
regards
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Alsamixer is not *that* great.
Try aplay -l and -L to see your alsa cards and outputs
> and IMHO....pa is not what defines Tinycore?
What does this mean?
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aus9, thank you for your efforts!
These are my current settings:
blacklisted modules in menu.lst
blacklist=snd_intel8x0 blacklist=snd_intel8x0m blacklist=snd_usb_audio
I start the devices like this - later I put it into the file boolocal.sh
sudo /sbin/modprobe snd_usb_audio ignore_ctl_error vid=0x08bb pid=0x2902 index=0
sudo /sbin/modprobe snd_intel8x0 index=1
sudo /sbin/modprobe snd_intel8x0m index=2
sudo /sbin/modprobe snd_mixer_oss
sudo /sbin/modprobe snd_seq
sudo /sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss
sudo /sbin/modprobe snd_seq_midi_event
sudo /sbin/modprobe snd-seq-oss
sudo /sbin/modprobe snd_page_alloc
sudo /usr/local/etc/init.d/alsasound start
If done like that, I get sound on the UCA222 (ear phones and spdif).
lsmod (after loading the modules)
Module Size Used by Not tainted
snd_seq_dummy 648 0
snd_seq_oss 15364 0
snd_seq_midi_event 2624 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_pcm_oss 24484 0
snd_seq 26036 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_mixer_oss 8648 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_intel8x0m 6884 0
snd_intel8x0 17724 0
snd_ac97_codec 66516 2 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus 412 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_usb_audio 44836 0
snd_pcm 37628 5 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio
snd_timer 10564 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 4016 3 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
snd_hwdep 3004 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_usb_lib 9104 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi 10004 1 snd_usb_lib
snd_seq_device 2808 4 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd 26200 14 snd_seq_oss,snd_pcm_oss,snd_seq,snd_mixer_oss,
snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,
snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep,
snd_usb_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore 2640 1 snd
radeon 379556 2
ttm 26292 1 radeon
drm_kms_helper 15480 1 radeon
drm 93504 5 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit 2984 1 radeon
cifs 161640 8
dm_mod 35392 0
ipw2200 101408 0
libipw 16292 1 ipw2200
cfg80211 73276 2 ipw2200,libipw
lib80211 1984 2 ipw2200,libipw
i2c_i801 5748 0
intel_agp 16252 0
joydev 5808 0
i2c_core 9380 5 radeon,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit,i2c_i801
agpgart 15792 3 ttm,drm,intel_agp
squashfs 14728 117
ramzswap 10240 1
loop 8068 234
pcmcia 12756 0
scsi_wait_scan 276 0
yenta_socket 13432 1
sdhci_pci 4144 0
8139cp 10860 0
rsrc_nonstatic 5780 1 yenta_socket
sdhci 10392 1 sdhci_pci
mmc_core 27968 1 sdhci
8139too 12868 0
pcmcia_core 17332 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
serio_raw 2380 0
count the number of colour connectors......they are your stacks.
I did not understand. I have 2x cinch in, 2x cinch out, 1x earphone and 1x optical spdif at the UCA222. What do you mean by "stacks"?
you have a spdif........not sure as I asked but maybe we got confused?.....pls specify if that is to be true output pls....so why the need for others?......
My notebook has no spdif. My notebook only has an earphone output. So I got the UCA222.
......I repeat.... which alsamixer setting are you referring to you for digital out....spdif ?
I do not know exactly what you mean by "alsamixer setting". If I load the modules as decribed above, I get one controller (PCM) in alsamixer. This controller controls the volume of the earphone output on the UCA222. Unfortunately I have no controller for spdif.
4) it might be useful to post a snapshot of your current alsamixer output screen?
(http://www.e-solutions.de/dl/alsamixer.png)
2) Do you have any hate of pulseaudio?
No, no hate but no experience. At first I wanted to know if I can do this (multiple outputs at the same time) directly with alsa.
EDIT....a wiki now exists
http://wiki.tinycorelinux.com/pa
Thanks! I will now try pulseaudio.
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hi
firstly you have one internal device ...yes? and it needs 2 intel modules so your sudo can change to
sudo /sbin/modprobe snd_usb_audio ignore_ctl_error=1 vid=0x08bb pid=0x2902 index=0
sudo /sbin/modprobe snd_intel8x0m index=1
Now either that will enable the other intel module you replace with the other line but if you have only one sound device you can't give the modules different indexs....so you have 0 or 1 not 0 + 1 + 2
The reason I think its snd_intel8x0m....is because your ac97 depends on snd_intel8x0m mentioned first and then the other one
2) pls do not include all the other modprobes....they will load automatically.
try it and report back if any probs
3) Have you tried the line with ignore_ctl_error=1?
or without any mention?
I don't think it will work with no =0 or 1 against it.
4) hiro.....you are right...............aplay -L and -l are in the setting up sound wiki so TaoTePuh.....check your lsmod to confirm you need less modprobe lines ...........then post the output of the wiki commands for aplay pls
5) colour connectors and spdif .....I am referring to your usb device not your internal device.
Each colour connector has a colour for us simple folk......
Your link did not show those colours but did say it had a spdif ok?
so describe them pls
6) Your goal..............with alsamixer......sorry hiro...........is to show a mixer setting for your spdif
that means I suggest you do not load any intel modules but try a number of permutations for your usb sound module with or without
ignore_ctl_error=1 or ignore_ctl_error=0 or not mentioned until we get that mixer setting pls
good luck
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there is also the device_setup that can be added to modprobe but I have no experience as I have no usb devices so not sure if you input a PID or a location reference
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hi
and revisting this parameter
ignore_ctl_error - Ignore any USB-controller regarding mixer
interface (default: no)
so if you do not have it in your modprobe (manually or bootlocal) the default behaviour is to be no.....buts it contra-positive ....meaning if we used
ignore_ctl_error=1 (meaning yes) or ignore_ctl_error=yes
then we won't get access to the mixer settings that the usb may be attempting to supply.
so thats not what we want .
therefore leave this parameter not mentioned in your modprobe command.
sudo /sbin/modprobe snd_usb_audio vid=0x08bb pid=0x2902
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firstly you have one internal device ...yes? and it needs 2 intel modules so your sudo can change to
No, I think there are two devices. One is for the modem "snd_intel8x0m" (m=modem ???).
2) pls do not include all the other modprobes....they will load automatically.
try it and report back if any probs
You're right, it's possible without. When I have tested 3 days ago, I could not start alsa.
3) Have you tried the line with ignore_ctl_error=1?
or without any mention?
I have tested without success.
5) colour connectors and spdif .....I am referring to your usb device not your internal device.
Each colour connector has a colour for us simple folk......
Your link did not show those colours but did say it had a spdif ok?
so describe them pls
Sorry, but I still do not understand. The Box has 2 white connectors and 2 red connectors. Perhaps the following pictures helps:
http://www.behringer.com/EN/images/lightboxphotos/UCA222_P0A31_Front_XL.jpg
http://www.behringer.com/EN/images/lightboxphotos/UCA222_P0A31_Bottom_XL.jpg
6) Your goal..............with alsamixer......sorry hiro...........is to show a mixer setting for your spdif
that means I suggest you do not load any intel modules but try a number of permutations for your usb sound module with or without ignore_ctl_error=1 or ignore_ctl_error=0 or not mentioned until we get that mixer setting pls
Yes, I have tested all versions. But I get only one controller (PCM) in alsamixer (see picture above).
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I've just tried pulseaudio. Thanks for the wiki article!
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ahhh I should have looked at the diagram from your first link.
they appear to be rca audio plugs red for right and white for left speakers.
http://www.behringer.com/EN/images/photos/UCA222_fig3_web.png
2) hmmm so we still can't get spdif I wonder if oss will find it?
3) Have you tried wine with the file from behringer?
assuming 32 bit kernel
http://www.behringerdownload.de/_software/BEHRINGER_2902_WIN32_2.8.40.zip
good luck