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Title: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: roberts on May 30, 2010, 12:39:24 AM
Tiny Core v3.0 Alpha5 is now posted at http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/tinycorelinux/3.x/release_candidates

Change log for Alpha5

* Updated AppsAudit: added OnDemand Maintenance (add/remove) OnDemand items.
* Updated ondemand to support new feature in AppsAudit.
* Updated AppsAudit: dropped full path from "Check for Updates" display.
* Updated flwm* for potential issue when used with peristent home
* Updated tce-setdrive to exclude cdrom and dvd.
* Updated mktclocal to exclude cdrom and dvd.
* Updated usbinstall moved bzImage and tinycore.gz/microcore.gz to /boot
* Updated wbar_upd_icon.sh for missing c: in freedesktop Terminal & Icon case.
* Fixed various typos and other small tweaks and adjustments
* Fixed freedesktopcheck in startx
* Updated squashfs module with latest patch.
* Removed unused .webdata* from /etc/skel/
* Updated X libs in base to Xorg 7.5:
   libICE-1.0.6
   libSM-1.1.1
   libX11-1.3.3
   libXau-1.0.5
   libXaw-1.0.7
   libXcursor-1.1.10
   libXdmcp-1.0.3
   libXext-1.1.1
   libXfont-1.4.1
   libXft-2.1.14
   libXi-1.3
   libXinerama-1.1
   libXmu-1.0.5
   libXpm-3.5.8
   libXrender-0.9.5
   libXt-1.0.8
   libXtst-1.1.0
* The user-visible part of the update is mainly the removal of the harmless libXext error message
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: meo on May 30, 2010, 02:26:33 AM
Hi Tiny Core Team!

The new cut works without problems for me. Did some initial testing and the applications I use most work flawlessly. Thanks for your hard work!

Have fun working with tinycore 3.0 towards it's final state,
meo
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: Juanito on May 30, 2010, 02:31:06 AM
This was probably there before, but when I use appsaudit to update bluez, the updated dep file contains bluetooth-KERNEL.tcz rather than bluetooth-2.6.33.3-tinycore{,64}.tcz
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: philip on May 30, 2010, 02:37:23 AM
Tonight for the first time I saw the release news *without* a happy note from Meo, and thought, "This is my chance!" Unfortunately, after installing as fast as I could and quickly testing a YouTube video with getFlash10 and namaroka, I lost the race. Congratulations to Meo and ... more importantly ;) ... thanks to the team.

I like the classic FLWM desktop. The menu system based in ~/.wmx has a symbolic link named "Applications" pointing to /usr/local/tce.flwm. In the 2.X series of TC releases, this target directory was populated automatically when things like namaroka or the OSS mixer got installed. Now it seems this directory just stays empty. Can the previous functionality be restored?
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: jur on May 30, 2010, 04:07:49 AM
~/.wbar apparently does not get used... on starting, wbar is located bottom centre, whereas in my ~/.wbar file it is spec'ed as being vertical and on the right.
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: jur on May 30, 2010, 04:12:28 AM
Code: [Select]
tc@box:~$ wbar.sh
tc@box:~$ wbar: unrecognized option '-bpress -vbar -pos right -zoomf 1.78 -nofont'

edit: Removing the double quotes around $OPTION in wbar.sh fixes the problem.
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: jano on May 30, 2010, 03:08:14 PM
Couldn' test alpha 4. With alpha 5 I have the same boot errors I had with alpha2 and alpha 3 but not with alpha1 (see http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=6021.msg32363#msg3263 in alpha 3 thread for details)
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: maro on May 30, 2010, 07:02:50 PM
jano: First up I don't pretend to really know much at all about the following, so I can only hope that some of the other guys are stepping in when I'm "talking nonsense" here:
Well, that are just my 2c ...
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: roberts on May 30, 2010, 11:33:03 PM
This was probably there before, but when I use appsaudit to update bluez, the updated dep file contains bluetooth-KERNEL.tcz rather than bluetooth-2.6.33.3-tinycore{,64}.tcz

Found it.
Fixed it.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: maro on May 31, 2010, 12:51:13 AM
As I tried to understand some of the changes between TC 3.0alpha4 and 3.0alpha5 I made the following observations:
I'd appreciate if someone wiser might be kind enough to explain this to me.
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: ^thehatsrule^ on May 31, 2010, 03:06:27 AM
I think the leftover files are already taken care of ;)

Seems like libXfontcache can be removed (deprecated) and that libfontenc might already be the latest.

Not using the 'highest' version was done to keep a compatible interface.
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: curaga on May 31, 2010, 03:17:58 AM
Seems like libXfontcache can be removed (deprecated) and that libfontenc might already be the latest.

I confirm this, Xfontcache is not a part of Xorg-7.5, and libfontenc has not received an update since the 7.4 days.
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: bmarkus on June 01, 2010, 03:36:15 AM
cpanel/Update Apps displays "Reboot to use new updated extensions." on fresh system instead of "Your system is up to date".
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: althalus on June 03, 2010, 03:47:38 AM
Are we lacking a linux-kernel-headers extension for the alpha versions of TC3?
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: Juanito on June 03, 2010, 09:39:00 AM
Technically, yes, for the convenience of building modules without the full kernel source.

Until one gets made, the full kernel source can be used instead.
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: ^thehatsrule^ on June 03, 2010, 11:13:21 AM
I held off posting one until things settled down.  I'll see about it sometime.
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: roberts on June 03, 2010, 03:25:12 PM
cpanel/Update Apps displays "Reboot to use new updated extensions." on fresh system instead of "Your system is up to date".
Updated to acknowledge when system is up-to-date.
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: althalus on June 03, 2010, 04:58:07 PM
Technically, yes, for the convenience of building modules without the full kernel source.

Until one gets made, the full kernel source can be used instead.
Ah, ok. Makes sense.
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: jur on June 04, 2010, 07:01:55 AM
I hope this is an appropriate place to post this bug:

Load galculator. It runs. Now load and run gnumeric. Now, galculator segfaults.
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: jur on June 04, 2010, 07:20:14 AM
Just tried the same test booting off usb stick and it didn't happen. On the usb stick I run xvesa while on the harddisk I use Xorg.
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: yoshi314 on June 04, 2010, 08:00:24 AM
i am not sure whether it still applies to 3.0 but there is one issue that could use a fix (i've seen it on 2.11 at least).

when you have a external device/filesystem or anything mounted somewhere in /home/tc, and decide to shutdown TC,  the backup script will try to pack home dir along with mounts into mydata.tgz.



Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: curaga on June 04, 2010, 08:02:48 AM
/home/tc/mnt is in the default xfiletool.lst, so if you mount under that, things will work.
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: maro on June 04, 2010, 11:10:44 PM
I can confirm the finding from jur that galculator "dies" with a segfault if gnumeric is installed as well. I did my tests on a "plain" TC 3.0a5 system and considering my findings I can only assume that his second report resulted due to a different set of extensions (but most likely unrelated to the X server).

In principle my test consisted of the following steps:
There are quite a few libraries contained in the '/usr/lib' directory of 'gnumeric.tcz' that are available via distinct library extensions. I spotted 'pcre.tcz', 'ORBit2.tcz', and 'libgpg-error.tcz' as other candidates (but there are probably more) by just eyeballing 'gnumeric.tcz.list'. And there is a fairly good chance that some other incompatibilities will "break" also other extensions. I'd therefore suggest to remove 'gnumeric.tcz'  from the 3.x repository until it has been rebuild taking into account the possibly much larger set of available libraries via extensions in the current repository.

Due to this finding I then had a quick look across the .list files of the 3.x repository and saw a few other cases where libraries had been put into '/usr/lib':
Title: Re: Tiny Core 3.0 Alpha 5 testing
Post by: jur on June 04, 2010, 11:26:47 PM
maro: Thanks for the confirmation. Your findings for libxml2 also explains why I had "random" cases where right-clicking on rox filer sometimes exited as reported before.