Tiny Core Linux
Tiny Core Extensions => TCE Talk => Topic started by: libretto on February 09, 2010, 02:44:23 PM
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I have a USB HDD(1TB/FAT32) used to be able to mount it under TC as /mnt/sda1.
But after using this with XP now I cann't mount it under TC anymore and it also shows up as /mnt/sda2 even thought this is the only USB device connected, when try to mount it it'll say "no such device" also when i check this drive it is reported as a NTFS format instead of FAT32. :'(
Any suggestions ?
FYI the HDD should be a FAT32.
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Check drive partitions with
sudo fdisk /dev/sda
and post result.
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Hi bmarkus,
This is the result:
The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 121601.
There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
and could in certain setups cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
(e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
Command (m for help):
And I think 2) is my case.
Thanks
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One more thing. In fdisk prompt please print the partition layout hitting the 'p' key and post this output. It was missing in my previous mail.
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bmarkus,
Command (m for help): p
Disk /dev/sdb: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
55 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xe8900690
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb2 1 121601 976760001 7 HPFS/NTFS
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It shows that on the HDD there is only 1 partition, which is the second physical partition and it is formatted to NTFS.
Install filesystems-2.6.29.1-tinycore.tcz extension, it will provide read only support to the NTFS partition. For read-write you need ntfs-3g
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It should be a FAT32 partition. It changes into NTFS somehow after XP crash, notice this after unable to connect to TC. FYI(I remember reading somewhere this could happen when XP crash or something)
Did all that before posting for help :'(
Install filesystems-2.6.29.1-tinycore.tcz extension, it will provide read only support to the NTFS partition. For read-write you need ntfs-3g
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You can try to edit table manually and change file system type to FAT.
Just a side note, formatting a 1TB drive to FAT is not a good practice. Even if you can access it as a FAT partition, there may be hidden corruption.
I would forget now TC and would use a recovery tool on WINDOWS which works in r/o mode.
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I cann't reformat this cause it's got 700GB of stuff in it and I don't have another 1TB drive to back this up. Is there a way to change file system type without formatting ?
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I cann't reformat this cause it's got 700GB of stuff in it and I don't have another 1TB drive to back this up. Is there a way to change file system type without formatting ?
Where do you see reformat? What I adviced to use a recovery tool which is normally works in R/O mode without writing anything to the disk to avoid coruupting it and to make use of other tools or different parameters possible.
Look for FinalData, EasyRecovery, etc.
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Any suggestions on the recovery tool ? Norton.... ? Also did
XP drive recovery error property/tools/error checking
but no errors found.
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Will give EasyRecovery and FinalData a try.
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I used Norton a long time ago when it destroyed my drive writing back wrong changes :(
My personal favourite is FinalData2.
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Never try any of those before. Looks like I got some reading to do before proceeding any further.
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Any linux tools I can use ? Tying to stay away from MS.
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I don't know how valuable your data is. But if it is valuable you may want to buy another hard drive to back it up on.
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I don't know how valuable your data is. But if it is valuable you may want to buy another hard drive to back it up on.
Well, normally recovery tools needs teh same amount of free storage area to backup recovered files.
I do not know any LINUX tools to recover WINDOWS file system :(
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Guy,
Might consider this option. But trying to fix this error MS caused. The strange thing is Puppy/Fedora/Slax/Ubuntu all can have access to this drive(all show up as sda2) only TC unable to mount it. :'( and I like TC alot.
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If you copy all of your data onto another drive, you can use any partitioning program to delete the existing partition and create a new one. I like Parted Magic, which uses GParted. You can also install GParted and others in Tiny Core.
I don't know how you use your drive, but you may also consider splitting it up, and also having an Ext3 partition for Linux stuff.
To work, the partition you access from Windows, may need to be the first one.
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Guy,
I'm trying to stay away from MS as much as possible, but would like to keep the drive in FAT32 format just because it can save more stuff on a big drive in FAT32 than ext3....
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Guy,
Might consider this option. But trying to fix this error MS caused. The strange thing is Puppy/Fedora/Slax/Ubuntu all can have access to this drive(all show up as sda2) only TC unable to mount it. :'( and I like TC alot.
If other system can access the drive and it looks OK, you do not need any recovery tool, just install the relevant NTFS extension, see my previous post.
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bmarkus,
I did If other system can access the drive and it looks OK, you do not need any recovery tool, just install the relevant NTFS extension
but still unable to mount.
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FYI "PowerQuest Partition Magic 8 Pro" has convert NTFS > FAT32 option. Will post end result.
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Why to have a 1TB on a risky FAT file system without journaling??? The only case where it my be accepted is a media player which is reading only the files.
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I'm trying to stay away from MS as much as possible, but would like to keep the drive in FAT32 format just because it can save more stuff on a big drive in FAT32 than ext3....
Are you aware that you can't save files over 4gb on FAT32, so you can't save copies of DVDs?
I assume you understand Linux owner and group, and permissions, and know these are lost when saving to FAT32.
You can install programs in Windows to access Ext3.
You do whatever you are happy doing. Just some info.
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Guy,
Are you aware that you can't save files over 4gb on FAT32, so you can't save copies of DVDs?
No DVD's for me in this drive, I do not use this as AV media mainly for backup files.
I assume you understand Linux owner and group, and permissions, and know these are lost when saving to FAT32.
Yes I do, no need for that.
You can install programs in Windows to access Ext3.
3rd party programs ? Please tell me, it's good to know.
You do whatever you are happy doing. Just some info.
Appreciated! ;D
bmarkus,
Why to have a 1TB on a risky FAT file system without journaling???
Yes I know, I only want to have a BIGGER drive to backup stuff, I'm greedy ;D. ;D
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You like risky life :)
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"PowerQuest Partition Magic 8 Pro"
Test results:
1) Use VirtualBox XP to convert NTFS > FAT32 on boot drive C: ---- OK it works ! ;D ;D ;D ;D
2) Convert it back NTFS also works. ;D
It does need some empty space on the drive to "move" while converting from NTFS > FAT32.
Update:
*Unable to convert NTFS > FAT32 for USB HDD only available is to convert it to a Logical drive.
*Boot form "Partition Magic 8.05" doesn't see the USB HDD
*bmarkus instruction works, I didn't include "filesystems-2.6.29.1-tinycore.tcz" in my original tce directory. "ntfs-3g" should have a dependency to include "filesystems-2.6.29.1-tinycore.tcz"
Install filesystems-2.6.29.1-tinycore.tcz extension, it will provide read only support to the NTFS partition. For read-write you need ntfs-3g
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You can install programs in Windows to access Ext3.
http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs
http://www.fs-driver.org/