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Tiny Core Base => TCB Talk => Topic started by: nickispeaki on October 13, 2009, 03:00:31 AM

Title: where is a clock?
Post by: nickispeaki on October 13, 2009, 03:00:31 AM
in jwm there was a little clock in upper right conner. in flwm is no clock! how fix  ;D it?

it's not great problem, but.....

how i can change flwm on jwm?
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: Guy on October 13, 2009, 03:18:00 AM
You can install jwm the same way as installing other programs.

If you are using Tiny Core, that's all you need to do.

If you are using Microcore, remove flwm.
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: bmarkus on October 13, 2009, 03:25:06 AM
You can install jwm the same way as installing other programs.

If you are using Tiny Core, that's all you need to do.

If you are using Microcore, remove flwm.

Opposite...
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: nickispeaki on October 13, 2009, 04:00:33 AM
You can install jwm the same way as installing other programs.

If you are using Tiny Core, that's all you need to do.

If you are using Microcore, remove flwm.

Opposite...

 ???
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: bmarkus on October 13, 2009, 04:03:55 AM
Microcore comes without FLWM while Tinycore has FLWM built-in.
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: Juanito on October 13, 2009, 04:12:57 AM
in jwm there was a little clock in upper right conner. in flwm is no clock! how fix

You can use the flit extension - this will provide a clock (and laptop battery status) in the bottom right corner
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: nickispeaki on October 13, 2009, 01:37:35 PM
in jwm there was a little clock in upper right conner. in flwm is no clock! how fix

You can use the flit extension - this will provide a clock (and laptop battery status) in the bottom right corner

thanks! now i have flit - little prog, like a part of jwm (  ;D ) and xclock.

i switchoff battery status, 'cause i use my laptop only with dc-adaptor and w/o sound indicator - i can't install oss.tczm....

Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: nickispeaki on October 15, 2009, 03:11:27 PM
You can install jwm the same way as installing other programs.

If you are using Tiny Core, that's all you need to do.

If you are using Microcore, remove flwm.

how to remove flwm and install jwm?
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: MikeLockmoore on October 15, 2009, 05:25:44 PM
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how to remove flwm and install jwm?

Install the jwm.tcz extension using AppBrowser and reboot.  flwm is not actually removed, but it will not be activated.  flwm is really small (< 50K plus a few scripts), so it's probably not worth trying to remove, but you could build up a configuration of MicroCore perhaps.
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Mike
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: nickispeaki on October 17, 2009, 07:42:19 AM
Install the jwm.tcz extension using AppBrowser and reboot.
Mike
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rebooting!  ;D
flwm not jmw!  ???
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: MikeLockmoore on October 17, 2009, 12:36:27 PM
Sorry, my understanding is that all you need to do is install the jwm.tcz and reboot. 

Other TC experts, does nickispeaki need to add:

   desktop=jwm

To the boot options?  Or do something else?
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Mike L.
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: Kingdomcome on October 17, 2009, 12:54:19 PM
Adding jwm.tcz extension to your persistent tce dir should be enough to to use JWM.  Using the bootcode would attempt to force JWM, and may produce an error that can be checked in /tmp/wm_errors.
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: nickispeaki on October 17, 2009, 02:42:16 PM
Adding jwm.tcz extension to your persistent tce dir should be enough to to use JWM.  Using the bootcode would attempt to force JWM, and may produce an error that can be checked in /tmp/wm_errors.
as i see, it's not enough!
after rebooting i have only flwm, not jwm!

what to do?
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: roberts on October 17, 2009, 03:28:48 PM
If you have not updated your .xsession or .profile it will not work.

cp /etc/skel/.profile /home/tc/.profile
cp /etc/skel/.xsession /home/tc/.xsession

Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: MikeLockmoore on October 17, 2009, 10:40:15 PM
Kingdomcome, roberts:  I tried to install jwm.tcz, reset my .xsession and .profile with the defaults in /etc/skel/ and reboot... and I am still in flwm.   ???  /tmp/wm_errors is empty.  I do see jwm.tcz in my list of extensions in the control panel stats applet.  So I seem to have the same problem nickispeaki has. 
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Mike L.
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: roberts on October 17, 2009, 11:05:10 PM
how old is your jwm.tcz? compare md5sum with the repository. env should return DESKTOP=jwm
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: jpeters on October 18, 2009, 02:02:52 AM
how old is your jwm.tcz? compare md5sum with the repository. env should return DESKTOP=jwm

md5check:

update -f jwm
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: nickispeaki on October 19, 2009, 10:24:47 AM
If you have not updated your .xsession or .profile it will not work.

cp /etc/skel/.profile /home/tc/.profile
cp /etc/skel/.xsession /home/tc/.xsession
/etc/skel/ is empty!  ???
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: Juanito on October 19, 2009, 10:30:42 AM
It probably looks empty because all the files/folders start with a "." which indicates the file/folder as "hidden".

If you use emelfm and click on the "H" button, the files will be revealed.
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: bmarkus on October 19, 2009, 10:33:27 AM
It probably looks empty because all the files/folders start with a "." which indicates the file/folder as "hidden".

If you use emelfm and click on the "H" button, the files will be revealed.

'ls -a' shows items starting with . too. Midnight Commander (mc) can be used as well in MC.
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: MikeLockmoore on October 19, 2009, 01:55:16 PM
roberts, others:  I downloaded a fresh copy of jwm.tcz through AppBrowser just before I posted, so it should have been the very latest (at least as fresh as TC 2.4.1 base).  I have since deleted jwm, but I suppose I could try again... but I'm just doing this to help out nickispeaki.  Although I also wanted to try a short experiment with windowlab, but that would not start either.  Maybe because I have renamed flwm executable to something else, and have a symbolic link named flwm pointing back to my locally-built version?  But it seems like TC should still be able to override flwm if another WM extensions is loaded.
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Mike L.
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: roberts on October 19, 2009, 02:28:16 PM
Unless you are running a custom .profile and/or a custom .xsession and are current you should have no problems. You do not need a deskopt=xyz option, all that is necessary is having a window manager extension in your collection.

If you are current and not custom then Issuing an env | grep DESKTOP should display the active desktop window manager that will be started by .xsession.

I believe that we have learned that nikispeaki has not keep up the "file that have changed" in the release announcements, by the comment that their /etc/skel is empty! This would explain their issues.

There has been many changes during this transitional phase and one must keep current, not only the base system but many extensions have had to be tweaked, as well as updating the "files that have been changed".

Any transitional phase can be daunting.
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: bmarkus on October 20, 2009, 03:25:24 AM
roberts, others:  I downloaded a fresh copy of jwm.tcz through AppBrowser just before I posted, so it should have been the very latest (at least as fresh as TC 2.4.1 base).  I have since deleted jwm, but I suppose I could try again... but I'm just doing this to help out nickispeaki.  Although I also wanted to try a short experiment with windowlab, but that would not start either.  Maybe because I have renamed flwm executable to something else, and have a symbolic link named flwm pointing back to my locally-built version?  But it seems like TC should still be able to override flwm if another WM extensions is loaded.
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Mike L.

Mike,

tried windowlab installed from the repo on clean TC 2.4.1 started with base, nolocal, norestore. It starts and works as expected. windowlab is a minimalist WM and first may look it doesn't work, but press and hold down right mouse button, a horizontal menu bar must appear on the top.
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: MikeLockmoore on October 20, 2009, 12:22:16 PM
bmarkus:  Thanks for the suggestions.  I may try again sometime, but the earlier attempt was just a casual try... I plan to work mostly within flwm and on FLTK-based apps for the forseeable future.
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ML
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: bmarkus on October 20, 2009, 12:27:16 PM
bmarkus:  Thanks for the suggestions.  I may try again sometime, but the earlier attempt was just a casual try... I plan to work mostly within flwm and on FLTK-based apps for the forseeable future.
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ML

OK. I just created windowlab originally to see what a minimalist - smallest I found - WM can do :) It looks good however and really usable! Also good to test TC.

BTW it was just recently updated, I will submit it.
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: nickispeaki on October 21, 2009, 07:23:36 AM
It probably looks empty because all the files/folders start with a "." which indicates the file/folder as "hidden".

If you use emelfm and click on the "H" button, the files will be revealed.

thanks, Juanito!
thanks, bmarkus!

how can i foget it?  :o  ;D

rebooting...... ::)
Title: Re: where is a clock?
Post by: nickispeaki on October 21, 2009, 07:27:37 AM
bmarkus:  Thanks for the suggestions.  I may try again sometime, but the earlier attempt was just a casual try... I plan to work mostly within flwm and on FLTK-based apps for the forseeable future.
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ML

OK. I just created windowlab originally to see what a minimalist - smallest I found - WM can do :) It looks good however and really usable! Also good to test TC.

BTW it was just recently updated, I will submit it.


did you see dwm ?  8)

20k only....

but TERRIBLE simple! ;-0