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Tiny Core Base => Raspberry Pi => Topic started by: meo on July 19, 2026, 03:11:35 AM

Title: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: meo on July 19, 2026, 03:11:35 AM

Hello Juanito!

I've been trying to find som info that could lead me to make Pragtical work in piCore 16 and 17 because I can't make it work in piCore 17 beta2 either. Could the module pam_rundir solve this problem of mine or would it cause problems?

Kind Regards,
meo

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: Juanito on July 19, 2026, 05:00:57 AM

I just downloaded and loaded pragtical on a fresh install of piCore64 17beta2 on an RPi5 using Xorg-3d, flwm, aterm, and wbar and it starts from the icon in wbar without doing anything else.

linux-pam is not loaded.

I'm at a loss to understand why it doesn't work for you  :(

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: meo on July 19, 2026, 05:08:17 AM

Hi Juanito!

I have tried various things to make it work but in vane. I haven't the slightest clue what's causing it not to execute. It downloads using onboot in piCore64 17 beta2 but not if I choose ondemand. So I change that afterwards. Thanks for your sincere effort!

Greetings,
meeo

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: Juanito on July 19, 2026, 05:11:09 AM

Are you using Xorg-3d?

What kind of RPi are you using, RPi5?

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: patrikg on July 19, 2026, 05:12:24 AM

Hi @meo

Sorry for hijacking the thread.

Like always with Linux apps you could try to start the app from command line to see if you get any errors to get any clue whats going wrong.

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: mocore on July 19, 2026, 07:24:55 PM

ftr background of previous debugging @
https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=28159.msg182869#msg182869

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: meo on July 20, 2026, 02:00:40 AM

Hello Juanito!

Sorry! I had a bad day yesterday. I am using Xorg in piCore64 17 beta 2. Tried to install Xorg-3d but I ran in to complications so this is a fresh install I am using now. The problem with Pragtical is consistent though. Usually everything runs smooth on my RPi 5. I have a little special setup though. I have a 512 GB SSD for RPi OS and sometimes I have another OS that I am trying out connected to a USB 3 port and then the original place for a micro SD card. I can start anyone tapping the space button when rebooting (or booting) then pressing 1 starts the OS connected to the internal micro SD slot. Pressing 4 starts first with the USB etc. and finally pressing 6 starts the OS on the SSD. Very useful trying out something new. But Pragtical is a hard nut to crack.

Kind regards,
meo

PS The piCore64 17 beta works pretty good now. Gimp works like a charm. DS

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: Juanito on July 20, 2026, 04:47:43 AM

You might want to try pragtical with Xorg-3d.

On an RPi5 running piCore64 17beta2 with an Xorg gui already loaded:

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sudo cp /tmp/tcloop/xorg-server/usr/local/share/xorg-server/files/99-vc4.conf /usr/local/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[exit to the console prompt]
tce-load -i Xorg-3d
startx
If the gui starts, verify 3d acceleration with:

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tce-load -i glxinfo
glxinfo | grep Acc
    Accelerated: yes

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: meo on July 20, 2026, 07:27:02 AM

Hello again!

I have a cable connected to this Raspberry Pi. Does that make a difference?

Kind Regards,
meo

PS  And if the gui does not start? DS

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: Juanito on July 20, 2026, 07:46:02 AM

I don’t think a cable would cause a problem.

As long as you don’t have Xorg-3d onboot, you can reboot if the gui doesn’t start.

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: meo on July 20, 2026, 09:51:25 AM

Hi again Jusnito!

When something happened (a pile of files and OK) but the GUI didn't start. The error message from the test was: "Error: could't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig".

Regards,
meo

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: Juanito on July 20, 2026, 10:14:19 AM

I just tested again.

The only extension I have onboot on this RPi5 running piCore64 17beta2 is openssl.

Boot, then:

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tce-load -i Xorg-3d flwm aterm wbar
sudo cp /tmp/tcloop/xorg-server/usr/local/share/xorg-server/files/99-vc4.conf /usr/local/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
startx
..and the gui starts with 3d acceleration.

Note that very occasionally the gui doesn't start first time, but starts without problems when "startx" is issued a second time.

Edit: I'm using a monitor connected to the first hdmi port.

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: meo on July 20, 2026, 03:23:43 PM

Hello Juaniito!

I have tried several times today to get the Xorg-3d to load but almost always I get the answer Xorg-3d can't be found. If I then try to install the usual Xorg it's there and loads pretty fast. I don't know why this happens but it is in my mind and being processed.

Greetings,
meo

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: Rich on July 20, 2026, 05:16:20 PM

Hi meo
Please run this command:

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ls -l /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/optional/*.tcz > Ext.lstAttach  Ext.lst  and  /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/onboot.lst  to your next post.

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: meo on July 21, 2026, 01:40:37 AM

Hi Rich!

Here it comes! Thanks for your concern.

Kind greetings,
meo

PS This is from piCore64 v. 16 see the other after this post DS

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: meo on July 21, 2026, 01:52:33 AM

Hi again!

I forgot that I had piCore64 v. 16 up and running. This is from piCore64 v. 17 beta 2. Thanks!

Greetings,
meo

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: Juanito on July 21, 2026, 06:29:53 AM

Xorg-3d is missing from both your piCore64 16 and piCore64 17beta2 lists.

Exit to the console prompt then:

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tce-load -wil Xorg-3d
startx

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: meo on July 21, 2026, 07:39:25 AM

Hello Juanito!

I finally got it to work. Both Xorg-3d and Pragical. It was the oldfashioned way. I did not see your last post Juanito but it still worked! This is the first time startx has worked with Xorg-3d. Now I do not want to shut it down. I will have some noting to do first. Thanks for allt the help I have received from the community!!!

Sincerely Yours,
meo

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: Juanito on July 21, 2026, 07:51:39 AM

‘Glad it works :)

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: Rich on July 21, 2026, 09:22:24 AM

Hi Juanito

Quote from: Juanito on July 21, 2026, 06:29:53 AM

Xorg-3d is missing from both your piCore64 16 and piCore64 17beta2 lists. ...

I was beginning to suspect as much. ;D

Title: Re: pam_rundir Pragtical.
Post by: meo on July 21, 2026, 01:32:57 PM

Hi guys!

This day has been very special. Several problems solved the same day and now I can go on with my python project. I have also installed the database that can be configured with emacs (thanks Juanito) so I have just enjoyed seeing the graphical database using the raspberry pi. So thanks everybody for your help!

Kind greetings,
meo