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Tiny Core Base => Corepure64 => Topic started by: gharig on June 04, 2025, 09:27:03 PM

Title: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: gharig on June 04, 2025, 09:27:03 PM

Hello Everyone,

I have upgraded from Tinycore Pure 64 13.1  to Tinycore Pure 64 16.0.   I'm having a problem with the Alsa-Config and Alsa working on the 16.0 version.
The hardware is the same for both operating systems.  I'm using a Winsystems C407 computer.  The Alsamixer program works when running TC 13.1 VERSION but not the TC 16.0 VERSION.
I have captured data from both 13.1 and 16.0 and have attached below dmesg and the results of lsmod -l, aplay and speker-test.

Any help is appricated.


Thank You
gharig



^{TC Pure 13.01 Results}

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aplay -l

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC888-VD Analog [ALC888-VD Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


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speaker-test -Ddefault:0 -c2 -t wav -l1

speaker-test 1.2.1

Playback device is default:0
Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
WAV file(s)
Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
Buffer size range from 2048 to 16384
Period size range from 1024 to 1024
Using max buffer size 16384
Periods = 4
was set period_size = 1024
was set buffer_size = 16384
 0 - Front Left
 1 - Front Right
Time per period = 2.685131


^{TC Pure 16.0 Results}

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aplay -l

aplay: device_list:279: no soundcards found...


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speaker-test -Ddefault:0 -c2 -t wav -l1

ALSA lib confmisc.c:855:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:5205:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_inum returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:422:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:5205:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1342:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:5205:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:5728:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2722:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default:0

speaker-test 1.2.13

Playback device is default:0
Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
WAV file(s)
Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory

^{TC 13.1 lsmod -l Result}

Module	Size	Used by	Not tainted
snd_hda_codec_hdmi	36864	0
snd_hda_codec_realtek	94208	1
snd_hda_codec_generic	45056	1	snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_intel	28672	0
snd_hda_codec	65536	4	snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_core	36864	5	snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_hwdep	12288	1	snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm	65536	4	snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core
snd_timer	24576	1	snd_pcm
snd	49152	8	snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore	12288	1	snd
snd_intel_dspcfg	12288	1	snd_hda_intel
cpufreq_userspace	12288	0
cpufreq_conservative	12288	0
cpufreq_powersave	12288	0
mei_hdcp	12288	0
lpc_ich	24576	0
serio_raw	12288	0
pcspkr	12288	0
igb	135168	0
video	36864	0
backlight	12288	1	video
mei_txe	16384	1
mei	49152	3	mei_hdcp,mei_txe
sdhci_pci	36864	0
cqhci	16384	1	sdhci_pci
sdhci	36864	1	sdhci_pci
mmc_core	81920	3	sdhci_pci,cqhci,sdhci
squashfs	32768	37
loop	24576	74

^{TC 16 lsmod -l Result}

Module	Size	Used by	Not tainted
snd_hda_intel	28672	0
snd_hda_intel	28672	0
snd_hda_codec	81920	1	snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_core	49152	2	snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_hwdep	12288	1	snd_hda_codec
snd_intel_dspcfg	12288	1	snd_hda_intel
snd_pcm	86016	3	snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core
snd_timer	24576	1	snd_pcm
snd	65536	5	snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore	12288	1	snd
cpufreq_powersave	12288	0
cpufreq_userspace	12288	0
cpufreq_conservative	12288	0
mei_hdcp	12288	0
serio_raw	12288	0
pcspkr	12288	0
video	57344	0
wmi	16384	1	video
i2c_hid_acpi	12288	0
i2c_hid	24576	1	i2c_hid_acpi
drm	348160	1	i2c_hid
backlight	12288	2	video,drm
mei_txe	16384	1
igb	159744	0
sdhci_pci	53248	0
sdhci	40960	1	sdhci_pci
lpc_ich	24576	0
mei	69632	3	mei_hdcp,mei_txe
cqhci	20480	1	sdhci_pci
mmc_core	110592	3	sdhci_pci,sdhci,cqhci
quashfs	40960	57
loop	24576	114

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: Rich on June 05, 2025, 01:19:58 AM

Hi gharig
Looking through your dmesg attachments I noticed both contained:

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tce=UUID=c97dc9b3-bdd3-4ace-ac34-3a544cd8c36aWhen you upgraded to TC16, did you also update the extensions in
your tce directory?

Saw this in the TC16.dmesg:

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pci 0000:00:1b.0: deferred probe pending: snd_hda_intel: couldn't bind with audio component

Quote from: gharig on June 04, 2025, 09:27:03 PM

... The hardware is the same for both operating systems. ...

Not quite. The TC16 version shows an extra USB drive attached:

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usb 1-1.1: new high-speed USB device number 5 using ehci-pci
usb-storage 1-1.1:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
scsi host2: usb-storage 1-1.1:1.0
scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access     SanDisk  Cruzer Glide     1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 30031872 512-byte logical blocks: (15.4 GB/14.3 GiB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 43 00 00 00
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: disabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
 sdb: sdb1
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: gharig on June 05, 2025, 03:07:40 AM

Hi Rich

I'm almost positive that I also updated all the extensions, but I will leave room for error, just incase I did not. I do mess up from time to time.  I will definetly double check in the morning and make sure all the tcz that are being loaded are correct for TC16

I also saw the "could't bind" in the TC 13.1 dmesg, but was missing the

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deferred probe pending:
Snipet from TC13.1 dmesg

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snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: couldn't bind with audio component
snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: autoconfig for ALC888-VD: line_outs=1 (0x14/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) type:line
snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    hp_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    mono: mono_out=0x0
snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    inputs:
snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:      Mic=0x18
snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:      Line=0x1a
snd_hda_codec_hdmi hdaudioC0D2: No i915 binding for Intel HDMI/DP codec
hdaudio hdaudioC0D2: Unable to configure, disabling

As far as my statement stating that the hardware  is the same, is true. Let me clarify,  the CPU and mSata drive are the same.    I just stuck the usb in to copy the files once i was running the TC 16 version. 

my drive is partitioned into 3 partitions

• sda1 55.5 gigs linux Ext4 (with the followingdirctories)
  • tce
  • opt
  • tce13
  • opt13
• sda2 4 gigs linux swap
• sda3 500 MB EFI boot

So inorder to switch between 13.1 and 16

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sudo mv tce tce16
sudo mv opt opt16
sudo mv tce13 tce
sudo mv opt13 opt

then i reboot with out running a backup.


Hardware setup

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64bit Winsystem C407 cpu

Multi-Core Intel® Atom™ E3800 Processors
E3825 dual-core, 1.33GHz

with a 60 or 64 SATA 2.0 channel
mSATA socket

digital I/O:
24 Bidirectional GPIO with event sense

serial I/O
4 serial ports (2x RS-232/422/485, 2x RS232)

https://winsystems.com/product/ppm-c407/ (https://winsystems.com/product/ppm-c407/)
(https://winsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/PPM-C407-3845-2-0_2.jpg.webp)

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: Rich on June 05, 2025, 09:11:31 AM

Hi gharig

Quote from: gharig on June 05, 2025, 03:07:40 AM

... I also saw the "could't bind" in the TC 13.1 dmesg, but was missing the

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deferred probe pending: ...

What happens if you try loading the driver:

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sudo modprobe snd_hda_codec_realtek
Does dmesg then produce any interesting messages:

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dmesg | tail -n 25
I also noticed this in the TC16 dmesg:

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byt_gpio INT33FC:00: [Firmware Bug]: Pin 92: DIRECT_IRQ_EN set but no IRQ assigned, clearing
byt_gpio INT33FC:00: [Firmware Bug]: Pin 93: DIRECT_IRQ_EN set but no IRQ assigned, clearing

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: gharig on June 05, 2025, 10:01:38 PM

Hi Rich,

So I tried to load the drivers as these were in TC 13.1 with no luck.

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sudo modeprobe snd_hda_codec_hdmi
sudo modeprobe snd_hda_codec_realtek
sudo modeprobe snd_hda_codec_generic

Then I came up with the Idea that I should see if it works with other versions of TC Core Plus, I already know that 13.1 works
So I loaded up

• Tinycore Plus 14
• Tinycore Plus 15
• Tinycore Plus 16 (a new one just incase I messed up in the previous)

And the results were

• Tinycore Plus 14 (Passed)  :)
• Tinycore Plus 15 (Passed)  :)
• Tinycore Plus 16 (Failed)  :(

Tomorrow I will try reloading the drivers manually and capture the dmesg to see what I get.


Thank You
gharig

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: gharig on June 05, 2025, 10:08:51 PM

Hi Rich

Forgot to talk about the byt_gpio

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byt_gpio INT33FC:00: [Firmware Bug]: Pin 92: DIRECT_IRQ_EN set but no IRQ assigned, clearing
byt_gpio INT33FC:00: [Firmware Bug]: Pin 93: DIRECT_IRQ_EN set but no IRQ assigned, clearing

This card has 24 bits of digital IO on the main cpu that uses IRQ 10 in the BIOS, I will double check if there are any jumpers I forgot.


Thanks
gharig

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: gharig on June 06, 2025, 04:49:14 PM

Hi Rich,

I tried manually loading the drivers, with no success. nothing showed up in dmesg while loading.
I have attached the TC-16 files and the TC-15 files.  The alsamixer works on TC-15.

^{Result of alsamixer}

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ALSA lib confmisc.c:855:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:5205:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_inum returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:422:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:5205:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1342:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:5205:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:5728:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib control.c:1575:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default
cannot open mixer: No such file or directory

Thanks
gharig

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: gharig on June 10, 2025, 03:04:23 PM

Hi Rich or anyone else...

Still trying to find solution as to why Alsamixer dose not work on Tinycore Pure 16.0
I found this on another site. Basically someone is stating the same problem on a different OS.

I'm thinking that I might need to rebuild with a newer version 6.12.32 and see if I get the same result.

Thanks
gharig

https://forum.manjaro.org/t/sound-card-is-no-longer-working-under-kernel-6-12-still-works-on-6-6/174139/12 (https://forum.manjaro.org/t/sound-card-is-no-longer-working-under-kernel-6-12-still-works-on-6-6/174139/12)

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Latest alsa-info is similar to first non-working alsa-info – no soundcards found; no snd_hda_intel driver loaded and 2 messages for onboard audio device

[    3.494141] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: enabling device (0100 -> 0102)
[   14.716641] pci 0000:00:1f.3: deferred probe pending: snd_hda_intel: couldn't bind with audio component
The main difference between working Live ISO and non-working installed OS is the Live ISO is using kernel 6.12.4 and installed OS has kernel 6.12.11. Something in the ALSA drivers must have changed after a kernel update but I cannot see it from the alsa-info data

Linux-Hardware data for onboard audio device (Intel Cannon Lake PCH cAVS) does not have any data for systems running recent 6.12 kernels and no reports of hardware failure

I suggest try using this modprobe option to force system to load AVS driver snd_soc_avs

sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf <<< "options snd_intel_dspcfg dsp_driver=4"
If audio is not working after reboot, try loading the snd_hda_intel driver

sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel

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Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: Juanito on June 11, 2025, 06:32:25 AM

alsamixer works for me on Core-16.x, but perhaps this is hardware dependent.

Did you try the instructions you linked to?

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: gharig on June 11, 2025, 04:10:21 PM

Hi Juanito,

Thanks for the reply,

I have tried what I linked to with no success.
So first off there is not driver named "snd_soc_avs" for me to to load.

But I did remove drivers snd_intel_dspcfg and snd_hda_intel and then reloaded them

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sudo modprobe snd_intel_dspcfg dsp_driver=4
sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel

I also loaded drivers snd_hda_codec_realtek and snd_hda_codec_hdmi as those drivers are loaded

• Tinycore Pure 13 64bit
• Tinycore Pure 14 64bit
• Tinycore Pure 15 64bit

And alsamixer works with those 3 versions. 

And the results after trying to run alsamixer are:

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ALSA lib confmisc.c:855:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:5205:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_inum returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:422:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:5205:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1342:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:5205:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:5728:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib control.c:1575:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default
cannot open mixer: No such file or directory

So is it the driver being loaded with the error in dmesg

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pci 0000:00:1b.0: deferred probe pending: snd_hda_intel: couldn't bind with audio component

with note on the

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deferred probe pending

or is this something in Alsamixer that could of changed?

The fact that the exact same hardware works with previous versions of Tinycore but not this one is bewildering.

Any input is greatly appreciated

Thanks
gharig

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: Rich on June 12, 2025, 12:39:34 AM

Hi gharig
Try this:

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tce-load -w graphics-KERNELThen add  graphics-KERNEL.tcz  to the beginning of  onboot.lst.
Reboot and see if anything changed.

You could also try this:

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modprobe -r  snd_hda_intel
modprobe snd_hda_intel options enable=0,1 index=0

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: gharig on June 12, 2025, 02:16:25 PM

Hi Rich,

I stated this in the past, you are a pure genius....

I added the graphics-KERNEL to the onboot.lst, crossed my fingers, rebooted...
And that was it, suddenly alsamixer worked, aplay worked, speaker-test worked, speakers are humming.

Small setback monitor screen shrunk a bit in size, but I'm sure I will get that set fixed.


Thank you for all you help
Very much appreciated
gharig


P.S.
I have another request that I'm going to start a new post on about multiport serial connections and setserial,
talk to you soon.

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: Rich on June 12, 2025, 05:05:34 PM

Hi gharig
Glad to hear it's working.

I am curious though, you said TC13, TC14, and TC15 worked.
Was graphics-KERNEL loaded in those environments?

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: gharig on June 12, 2025, 08:16:48 PM

Hi Rich,

I did not load the graphics-KERNEL.tcz on 13, 14 or 15.  I would install the O/S from a USB and then obtain all the alsa-config.tcz and alsa.tcz files along with their dependencies, and that is all I would do, and it worked.

Not sure why 16 needs the graphics-KERNEL, But I too am glad that it works now.

Thank you again for all your help.
gharig   

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: Juanito on June 13, 2025, 07:26:21 AM

If your hardware supports hmdi audio, you would need graphics-KERNEL for it to work.

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: Rich on June 13, 2025, 08:58:59 AM

Hi Juanito

Quote from: Juanito on June 13, 2025, 07:26:21 AM

If your hardware supports hmdi audio, ...

Or is that HDMI audio?  :)

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: Juanito on June 13, 2025, 12:23:36 PM

Many abbreviations are backwards here - MRI = IRM, AIDS = SIDA - with the end result that I’ve little idea what I’m saying 🙂

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: gharig on June 13, 2025, 05:38:46 PM

Hi Juanito,

So I used the Googled AI as  to find out what the Winsystems ppm-c407 supports, I could read the doc's but I just wanted a quick answer.

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Yes, the WINSYSTEMS PPM-C407 supports HDMI audio.
Based on the available information:
MiniDisplayPort: The PPM-C407 features a MiniDisplayPort interface.
Audio Support: This interface, as listed in the specs, supports audio along with video.
HDMI Compatibility: MiniDisplayPort and HDMI are related technologies, and MiniDisplayPort can carry digital audio signals that are compatible with HDMI.
Explicit Mention of HDMI Audio: One source specifically mentions the SYS-398Q-2G-0 (which might be related or have similar features) and its support for HDMI 1.4 Type A Stereo audio. This suggests the PPM-C407 is likely to also support HDMI audio through its MiniDisplayPort interface.
Therefore, while the datasheet mainly mentions MiniDisplayPort, the PPM-C407 does support audio output through its MiniDisplayPort interface, which can be connected to an HDMI display for both video and audio.

And then I stopped being lazy and this is from the manufactures datasheet

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The PPM-C407 is a full-featured embedded single board computer that operates in the
Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10, Windows CE, Linux and DOS environments. It
features an Intel® Atom™ E3800 Processor, up to 4 GB soldered DDR3 RAM, PC/104
and PC/104-Plus bus connectors (stack-through connectors are optional), as well as
optional fanless operation. It provides 24 lines of 5 V DC tolerant digital input-output
(DIO), and also video output with audio support. Communication interfaces include
Gigabit Ethernet, four USB 2.0 ports, two serial RS-232/422/485 channels and two
serial RS-232. channels. Refer to “Features” on page 2 and “General Operation” on
page 4 for specific information.

Video Interfaces (Intel Gen7 Graphics, one or two simultaneously active displays)
• Mini DisplayPort (version 1.1)
• Video Graphics Array (VGA up to 2560 x 1536)
• Low-Voltage Differential Signaling (LVDS, 18 or 24 bpp)

This above is just informational, and your Tinycore has worked on this card since version 10.
And thank you for all you do.

gharig

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: gharig on June 16, 2025, 05:47:39 PM

Hi Rich

I mentioned that after loading the graphics-KERNEL.tcz that my display and font size shrunk.
It was too small for my poor eyes.  So the following boot parameter fixed that.  Now I'm happy with the display and Alsa

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nomodeset
Thanks
gharig

Title: Re: Alsamixer cannot find card 0
Post by: Rich on June 16, 2025, 07:45:12 PM

Hi gharig
Thanks for sharing your fix.