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Tiny Core Base => Micro Core => Topic started by: Santos on September 11, 2021, 09:17:02 PM

Title: Can't: Ctrl + Page Up (MC12 32/64 bits)
Post by: Santos on September 11, 2021, 09:17:02 PM

Hello

Micro Core Tc 12 x86/x86_64

Most of the time I use plain  MC  and is just awesome. However if the output of something is too long or if I want to check on the previous  tty  history I just can't. Ctrl + Page Up doesn't work.

I can pipe the output of whatever program to a file (because some programs/scripts don't like stdout) or pipe it to  less  and check on the output, but is not the same.

Is this an error or did something changed on the  tty?

Title: Re: Can't: Ctrl + Page Up (MC12 32/64 bits)
Post by: Rich on September 11, 2021, 11:47:33 PM

Hi Santos
Have you tried  Shift + Page Up ?

Title: Re: Can't: Ctrl + Page Up (MC12 32/64 bits)
Post by: curaga on September 12, 2021, 01:54:52 AM

Recent kernels removed that support, but I don't remember which version exactly, not sure if it was in the 12.x kernel.

Title: Re: Can't: Ctrl + Page Up (MC12 32/64 bits)
Post by: Santos on September 12, 2021, 03:23:38 AM

@Rich

Haha, my mistake. I meant Shift + Page Up. Yes I tried it, does not work.

@Curaga

Yes it started with Tc 12.

From a regular-user-stand-point. Does that mean there is no way to have it back?

Title: Re: Can't: Ctrl + Page Up (MC12 32/64 bits)
Post by: curaga on September 12, 2021, 12:59:10 PM

Yes, no way to have it back. You'd have to use some userspace terminal emulator that runs on the FB, or screen/other such apps. Or use X terminals.

Title: Re: Can't: Ctrl + Page Up (MC12 32/64 bits)
Post by: Santos on September 12, 2021, 04:44:39 PM

Oh! So sad. :(

Anyway, thank you for answering.

Title: Re: Can't: Ctrl + Page Up (MC12 32/64 bits)
Post by: lhaley42 on September 13, 2021, 09:47:24 AM

Wow - I was wondering about this too - googling yields:

Linux 5.9 Dropping Soft Scrollback Support From FB + VGA Console Code
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.9-Drops-Soft-Scrollback

Title: Re: Can't: Ctrl + Page Up (MC12 32/64 bits)
Post by: PDP-8 on October 12, 2021, 07:26:02 PM

One solution would be to run FreeBSD, and install BusyBox as your user shell and applications.

I see that BusyBox has paid attention to FreeBSD use cases recently, so maybe that would be a solution, unless purity of licensing an issue.

(Which shouldn't be an issue since for DECADES, gcc was the compiler use(d) for all the later *bsd's in the first place!) Look at the cross-pollination in NomadBSD for quickie desktop ...

Title: Re: Can't: Ctrl + Page Up (MC12 32/64 bits)
Post by: PDP-8 on October 15, 2021, 04:29:14 PM

Gulp - spoke too soon.  Sorry Santos, this doesn't seem to be working in this either

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FreeBSD NomadBSD 13.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE #0: Tue May  4 21:43:29 UTC 2021     root@NomadBSD:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/NOMADBSD  amd64
Bummer.  Looks like it's curtains, or pagers like less for us now. :(

Title: Re: Can't: Ctrl + Page Up (MC12 32/64 bits)
Post by: Santos on November 05, 2021, 10:10:27 PM

@PDP-8

Thank you for looking into that. I've been messing around with NetBSD recently but switching just for buffer scrolling is a little bit overkill for me. Plus, yes, I would rather stay as close as GNU as possible (but that seems more like a liability nowadays). And, NetBSD keeps crashing on my computer... too bad!  :(