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Tiny Core Extensions => TCE Q&A Forum => Topic started by: mikeb on October 20, 2015, 06:03:59 AM

Title: Video driver problem
Post by: mikeb on October 20, 2015, 06:03:59 AM
Hello

When I changed my graphics resolution to 1280x1024, which is native resolution for my monitor, and I know my hardware supports as Windows worked with the resolution

But it says input signal out of range

Is there a driver I can install for the graphics that could fix this problem ?
I'm using onboard ATI Rage XL graphics.

Thanks
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: Juanito on October 20, 2015, 06:09:46 AM
If you're using Xvesa, it could be that you need to explicitly state a lower colour depth  - does xsetup.sh give a choice for the 1280x1024 resolution?

You could also try Xorg-7.7 and xf86-video-ati.
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: mikeb on October 20, 2015, 06:13:16 AM
If you're using Xvesa, it could be that you need to explicitly state a lower colour depth  - does xsetup.sh give a choice for the 1280x1024 resolution?

You could also try Xorg-7.7 and xf86-video-ati.

Hi, thanks for your reply :)

I tried installing the mach64 driver (as it is old card) but ran out of space (i've only got a 32MB drive)
On windows , I can select 1280x1024x24

in xetup.sh, I had selected 1280x1024x24, I will try a lower colour depth

Thanks
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: mikeb on October 20, 2015, 06:15:10 AM
If you're using Xvesa, it could be that you need to explicitly state a lower colour depth  - does xsetup.sh give a choice for the 1280x1024 resolution?

You could also try Xorg-7.7 and xf86-video-ati.

Hi, thanks for your reply :)

I tried installing the mach64 driver (as it is old card) but ran out of space (i've only got a 32MB drive)
On windows , I can select 1280x1024x24

in xetup.sh, I had selected 1280x1024x24, I will try a lower colour depth

Thanks

I tried the lowest colour depth and it still says input signal out of range
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: Juanito on October 20, 2015, 06:56:09 AM
You could try Xfbdev maybe?
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: mikeb on October 20, 2015, 07:14:50 AM
You could try Xfbdev maybe?

I tried with
Tce-load -wi Xfbdev

Now after reboot it says Failed in waitforX and is at a command line

Is there anything else I need to do to install?

Thanks
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: mikeb on October 20, 2015, 07:50:44 AM
You could try Xfbdev maybe?

I tried with
Tce-load -wi Xfbdev

Now after reboot it says Failed in waitforX and is at a command line

Is there anything else I need to do to install?

Thanks

I added vga=769 and it works but then i added vga=775 and i get signal out of range again...
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: gerald_clark on October 20, 2015, 09:46:14 AM
It is picking a scan or clock rate that your display does not support.
Have you tried Xorg instead of Xvesa?
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: mikeb on October 20, 2015, 03:23:32 PM
It is picking a scan or clock rate that your display does not support.
Have you tried Xorg instead of Xvesa?

Thanks for your reply

Is there any way to change the clock rate ? I have also tried different display and it has similar error (change resolution to/input signal out of range)

How would I install Xorg ?

I only have a 32MB disk.
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: curaga on October 20, 2015, 03:27:25 PM
You probably can't fit Xorg to a disk that small, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: mikeb on October 20, 2015, 03:32:44 PM
You probably can't fit Xorg to a disk that small, I'm afraid.

OK, what about if I bought a 8GB USB flash drive -  would I be able to install to that ? Does the speed of the USB drive matter ?

I need to install linux onto 70+ Thin clients (HP Compaq T5500)

Because the Windows CE 5 on them has no updates and doesn't support latest RDP protocol.


Because they have 128MB ram

Maybe it is a better idea to PXE boot a 60MB image of Tiny core linux ?
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: gerald_clark on October 20, 2015, 06:30:29 PM
I PXE boot T5700s, but they have 1 or 2 G of RAM.  128M is slicing it pretty thin.
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: mikeb on October 20, 2015, 07:10:40 PM
It is picking a scan or clock rate that your display does not support.
Have you tried Xorg instead of Xvesa?

I installed Xorg and the driver for my graphics , but it still says input signal out of range

Also tried a different monitor.

Any ideas ?
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: thane on October 21, 2015, 03:43:21 AM
Shooting in the dark, but check that the Xorg and driver extension names are listed in onboot.lst.
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: mikeb on October 21, 2015, 04:17:10 AM
Shooting in the dark, but check that the Xorg and driver extension names are listed in onboot.lst.

Thanks but they are already in there - also I installed debian onto a USB stick, and it says input signal out of range as well. During the boot process.
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: curaga on October 21, 2015, 05:19:26 AM
If the driver can't get a good modeline, as a last resort you can copy the one Windows uses. There is some advanced display config app thing for Windows whose name I forget, that can display modelines.
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: mikeb on October 21, 2015, 05:21:32 AM
If the driver can't get a good modeline, as a last resort you can copy the one Windows uses. There is some advanced display config app thing for Windows whose name I forget, that can display modelines.

The windows is CE 5 .net

Would it still work ?
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: curaga on October 21, 2015, 06:36:29 AM
Sorry, I wouldn't know. If the screen is picky, you can connect it to a box running normal Windows, no?
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: gerald_clark on October 21, 2015, 10:20:24 AM
Try another video cable.
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: mikeb on October 21, 2015, 11:50:17 PM
Try another video cable.


I tried a different video cable
Sorry, I wouldn't know. If the screen is picky, you can connect it to a box running normal Windows, no?

The screen does not seem to be picky - I have tried with a few screens many of which can display tiny core linux at 1280x1024 from my laptop.. (nvidia quadro graphics)
Title: Re: Video driver problem
Post by: Rich on October 22, 2015, 12:42:33 AM
Hi mikeb
If the driver can't get a good modeline, as a last resort you can copy the one Windows uses. There is some advanced display config app thing for Windows whose name I forget, that can display modelines.

The windows is CE 5 .net

Would it still work ?

According to this:
h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00855360
Right click on the desktop and select Properties. Click on settings. That should give you the current resolution,
depth, and frequency.