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Tiny Core Base => CorePlus => Topic started by: alouestn1 on January 05, 2014, 06:00:35 AM

Title: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: alouestn1 on January 05, 2014, 06:00:35 AM

Hello,
I have a computer with a Pentium 166 Mhz MMX and 80 Mo of Ram.
When the window manager launch, the Ram is full.
Can I disable some extensions to win memory ?

(http://n1chezfree.free.fr/1images/tiny_core_linux/tiny_core_plus_top.png)

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: Juanito on January 05, 2014, 06:39:29 AM

Do you have a swap file?

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: malikawan on January 05, 2014, 06:54:16 AM

Juanito How r u hope u will be fine.
Swap file is use as a Ram ?

Malik Awan


"She said she was hot for me, so i gave her a spare heatsink. She didnt seem happy :( I just don't understand women."    — MrRoboto1024.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: curaga on January 05, 2014, 06:55:29 AM

Is this live or installed? You should install to HD, and only what you need, it should perform better than the live cd.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: Juanito on January 05, 2014, 07:07:40 AM

Quote from: malikawan on January 05, 2014, 06:54:16 AM

Swap file is use as a Ram ?

Yes

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: bmarkus on January 05, 2014, 07:09:18 AM

Maybe there is a misunderstanding of Linux RAM use. There is 35.7M cached which is a not a used memory in conventional terms and can be used by apps. Of cource you need more memory including swap.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: malikawan on January 05, 2014, 07:14:53 AM

Quote from: bmarkus on January 05, 2014, 07:09:18 AM

Maybe there is a misunderstanding of Linux RAM use. There is 35.7M cached which is a not a used memory in conventional terms and can be used by apps. Of cource you need more memory including swap.

Thanx for fast reply Juanito

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: alouestn1 on January 05, 2014, 07:54:33 AM

The Core plus installed on hard disk.

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You should install to HD, and only what you need

How can I choose only what I need to install ?

I have a swap partition. I don't know if it used.
How Can i see if there is a swap file ?

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: bmarkus on January 05, 2014, 07:58:55 AM

Quote from: alouestn1 on January 05, 2014, 07:54:33 AM

How Can i see if there is a swap file ?

Use command free in a terminal.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: alouestn1 on January 05, 2014, 08:04:39 AM

(http://n1chezfree.free.fr/1images/tiny_core_linux/tiny_core_plus_free.png)

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: tinypoodle on January 05, 2014, 02:06:38 PM

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cat /proc/swaps would show details and help differentiating between zram, swapfile, swap partition.
And please prefer posting text, rather than screenshots of terminal.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: alouestn1 on January 05, 2014, 03:43:25 PM

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tc@box:~$ cat /proc/swaps
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/dev/zram0                              partition 14492 0 -1
/dev/sda2                               partition 297196 0 -2

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: tinypoodle on January 05, 2014, 03:50:52 PM

Not same as what showed in earlier screenshot, but this should be more than sufficient for 80MB of RAM.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: tinypoodle on January 05, 2014, 03:54:29 PM

Also, looking at your screenshot, it is not at all clear what your issue is, as swap usage is 0.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: alouestn1 on January 05, 2014, 04:16:12 PM

The screenshot with "top" command was with the Wifi support.
I reinstalled meanwhile without Wifi support
The screenshot with "cat /proc/swaps" command is now without Wifi support.
I have 15236k free Mem.

When I try to launch Epiphany web browser, it exit with this errors : (the GUI not start).

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touch: /usr/local/tce.installed/gnome-icon-theme: No space left on device
mkdir: can't create directory '/tmp/tcloop/gnome-icon-theme-symbolic': No space left on device
mount: can't setup loop device: No space left on device
Before I launch Epiphany I have 14108K free Mem.
After I launch Epiphany I have 3464K free Mem.

How can I copy the text in from shell to the editor ? What are the shortcuts keys ?

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: gerald_clark on January 05, 2014, 05:30:38 PM

Boot with the 'nozswap' boot option.  You have plenty of real swap.
It is going to be difficult to run any large X app with only 80M of RAM.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: Misalf on January 05, 2014, 05:37:48 PM

Copy & Paste:
Just mark the text with the mouse, then paste it anywhere using middle mouse button or SHIFT+INSTERT.
You can also copy via keybord but I forgot the exact key combo. (CTRL+INS or CTRL+SHIFT+INS).

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: tinypoodle on January 06, 2014, 12:03:39 AM

Given the amount of swap you have, I doubt you are running out of memory.
By default core is allocating 90% of Total of RAM as max. size of tmpfs, so it is not unlikely you run out of storage space.
Also to consider is that with a tmpfs that small there is a chance of running out of inodes before running out of space which might result in same error message.

I'd find trying to run epiphany with 80MB RAM absolute overkill, regardless of everything else.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: alouestn1 on January 06, 2014, 10:50:46 AM

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Boot with the 'nozswap' boot option.

How I can do that ?

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: gerald_clark on January 06, 2014, 11:06:21 AM

You need to edit your bootloader config file.
Where it is depends on what you are booting from and which boot loader you are using.
Please consult  the wiki.
http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: alouestn1 on January 06, 2014, 01:15:18 PM

I edited the "extlinux.conf" file and I added "nozswap".

When I reboot with "nozswap" :

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tc@box:~$ cat /proc/swaps
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/dev/sda2                               partition 297196 0 -1
The "/dev/zram0" disappeared.

Epiphany doesn't use the swap partition and exit with this errors : (the GUI not start).

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touch: /usr/local/tce.installed/gnome-icon-theme: No space left on device
mkdir: can't create directory '/tmp/tcloop/gnome-icon-theme-symbolic': No space left on device
mount: can't setup loop device: No space left on device
What is the command to show the enabled extensions ?
How I can disable extensions ?

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You should install to HD, and only what you need

How can I choose only what I need to install ?

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: gerald_clark on January 06, 2014, 01:35:39 PM

Run Apps and remove anything you don't need from 'onboot'.
Then reboot.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: alouestn1 on January 06, 2014, 02:40:44 PM

I don't know what items I can delete.

(http://n1chezfree.free.fr/1images/tiny_core_linux/tiny_core_onboot.lst1-2.png)

(http://n1chezfree.free.fr/1images/tiny_core_linux/tiny_core_onboot.lst2-2.png)

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: gerald_clark on January 06, 2014, 02:55:21 PM

The only ones you need are:
Xprogs.tcz
Xvesa.tcz
flwm_topside.tcz
aterm.tcz
wbar.tcz

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: alouestn1 on January 06, 2014, 03:33:03 PM

I deleted the items unless this :
Xprogs.tcz
Xvesa.tcz
flwm_topside.tcz
aterm.tcz
wbar.tcz
kmaps.gz

Now I have 30704K free Mem with recorded shell output to a file on USB Key mounted. Thanks a lot gerald_clark.

When I try to launch Epiphany web browser, it exit with this errors : (the GUI not start).

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tc@box:~$ epiphany
/usr/share/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 1 fonts, 0 dirs
/usr/lib/X11/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 2 dirs
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi: caching, new cache contents: 48 fonts, 0 dirs
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc: caching, new cache contents: 48 fonts, 0 dirs
/usr/local/share/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/.local/share/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/usr/share/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 1 fonts, 0 dirs
/usr/lib/X11/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 2 dirs
/usr/local/share/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/.local/share/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/var/cache/fontconfig: cleaning cache directory
/.cache/fontconfig: not cleaning non-existent cache directory
fc-cache: succeeded
touch: /usr/local/tce.installed/gnome-icon-theme: No space left on device
mkdir: can't create directory '/tmp/tcloop/gnome-icon-theme-symbolic': No space left on device
mount: can't setup loop device: No space left on device
After I launch Epiphany I have 3704K free Mem and the swap partition empty.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: gerald_clark on January 06, 2014, 03:43:50 PM

How did you delete them?
Did you reboot?
How did you install epiphany?
Why don't you add memory so you can actually run something?

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: alouestn1 on January 07, 2014, 02:34:31 AM

I effaced them in the "/tce/onboot.lst" file with the text editor.
I rebooted of course.
I installed epiphany OnDemand with the Apps software.
I will extend memory to the amount of 144 Mb very soon. (The 128 Mb module is on the way)

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touch: /usr/local/tce.installed/gnome-icon-theme: No space left on device
mkdir: can't create directory '/tmp/tcloop/gnome-icon-theme-symbolic': No space left on device
mount: can't setup loop device: No space left on deviceWhy epiphany doesn't launch ?

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: curaga on January 07, 2014, 06:17:17 AM

You simply don't have enough memory to run Epiphany right now.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: tinypoodle on January 07, 2014, 07:35:27 AM

Please post output of

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df
and

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df -i
both before and after loading the epiphany extension.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: alouestn1 on January 07, 2014, 08:04:48 AM

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You simply don't have enough memory to run Epiphany right now.

How much megabyte does it need ?

Can I install an another web browser that need less memory ?

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: Juanito on January 07, 2014, 08:10:45 AM

You could start with lynx and work your way up to opera9 or similar

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: alouestn1 on January 07, 2014, 03:33:13 PM

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tc@box:~$ df
Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs                   66.0M     10.2M     55.8M  16% /
tmpfs                    36.7M         0     36.7M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1                 1.5G    105.9M      1.4G   7% /mnt/sda1
/dev/loop0               92.0K     92.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libpng
/dev/loop1               88.0K     88.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libjpeg-turbo
/dev/loop2              268.0K    268.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/freetype
/dev/loop3              176.0K    176.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/imlib2
/dev/loop4               56.0K     56.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/imlib2-bin
/dev/loop5               20.0K     20.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXdmcp
/dev/loop6               12.0K     12.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXau
/dev/loop7              212.0K    212.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libxcb
/dev/loop8              968.0K    968.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libX11
/dev/loop9               28.0K     28.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXext
/dev/loop10             272.0K    272.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/fltk-1.1.10
/dev/loop11              16.0K     16.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXrender
/dev/loop12              16.0K     16.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXrandr
/dev/loop13              44.0K     44.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXpm
/dev/loop14              36.0K     36.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libSM
/dev/loop15              40.0K     40.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libICE
/dev/loop16             156.0K    156.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXt
/dev/loop17              52.0K     52.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXmu
/dev/loop18              28.0K     28.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXi
/dev/loop19              28.0K     28.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libfontenc
/dev/loop20             116.0K    116.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXfont
/dev/loop21               1.2M      1.2M         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/Xlibs
/dev/loop22             112.0K    112.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/Xprogs
/dev/loop23             364.0K    364.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/Xvesa
/dev/loop24              56.0K     56.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/aterm
/dev/loop25              28.0K     28.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/flwm_topside
/dev/loop26              36.0K     36.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/wbar
/dev/loop27             140.0K    140.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/kmaps
/dev/sdb1               975.1M    251.5M    723.6M  26% /mnt/sdb1
tc@box:~$
tc@box:~$ df -i
Filesystem              Inodes      Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs                    8.4K      2.7K      5.7K  32% /
tmpfs                     9.2K         1      9.2K   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1               100.5K       378    100.2K   0% /mnt/sda1
/dev/loop0                   8         8         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libpng
/dev/loop1                   7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libjpeg-turbo
/dev/loop2                   7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/freetype
/dev/loop3                  22        22         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/imlib2
/dev/loop4                  12        12         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/imlib2-bin
/dev/loop5                  14        14         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXdmcp
/dev/loop6                  14        14         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXau
/dev/loop7                  82        82         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libxcb
/dev/loop8                 250       250         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libX11
/dev/loop9                   7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXext
/dev/loop10                 10        10         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/fltk-1.1.10
/dev/loop11                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXrender
/dev/loop12                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXrandr
/dev/loop13                 10        10         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXpm
/dev/loop14                 17        17         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libSM
/dev/loop15                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libICE
/dev/loop16                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXt
/dev/loop17                 10        10         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXmu
/dev/loop18                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXi
/dev/loop19                 15        15         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libfontenc
/dev/loop20                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXfont
/dev/loop21                179       179         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/Xlibs
/dev/loop22                 48        48         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/Xprogs
/dev/loop23                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/Xvesa
/dev/loop24                 13        13         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/aterm
/dev/loop25                 13        13         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/flwm_topside
/dev/loop26                 20        20         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/wbar
/dev/loop27                165       165         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/kmaps
/dev/sdb1                    0         0         0   0% /mnt/sdb1
tc@box:~$ epiphany
/usr/share/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 1 fonts, 0 dirs
/usr/lib/X11/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 2 dirs
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi: caching, new cache contents: 48 fonts, 0 dirs
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc: caching, new cache contents: 48 fonts, 0 dirs
/usr/local/share/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/.local/share/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/usr/share/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 1 fonts, 0 dirs
/usr/lib/X11/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 2 dirs
/usr/local/share/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/.local/share/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/var/cache/fontconfig: cleaning cache directory
/.cache/fontconfig: not cleaning non-existent cache directory
fc-cache: succeeded
touch: /usr/local/tce.installed/gnome-icon-theme: No space left on device
mkdir: can't create directory '/tmp/tcloop/gnome-icon-theme-symbolic': No space left on device
mount: can't setup loop device: No space left on device
tc@box:~$
tc@box:~$ df
Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs                   66.0M     10.8M     55.2M  16% /
tmpfs                    36.7M         0     36.7M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1                 1.5G    105.9M      1.4G   7% /mnt/sda1
/dev/loop0               92.0K     92.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libpng
/dev/loop1               88.0K     88.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libjpeg-turbo
/dev/loop2              268.0K    268.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/freetype
/dev/loop3              176.0K    176.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/imlib2
/dev/loop4               56.0K     56.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/imlib2-bin
/dev/loop5               20.0K     20.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXdmcp
/dev/loop6               12.0K     12.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXau
/dev/loop7              212.0K    212.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libxcb
/dev/loop8              968.0K    968.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libX11
/dev/loop9               28.0K     28.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXext
/dev/loop10             272.0K    272.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/fltk-1.1.10
/dev/loop11              16.0K     16.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXrender
/dev/loop12              16.0K     16.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXrandr
/dev/loop13              44.0K     44.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXpm
/dev/loop14              36.0K     36.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libSM
/dev/loop15              40.0K     40.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libICE
/dev/loop16             156.0K    156.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXt
/dev/loop17              52.0K     52.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXmu
/dev/loop18              28.0K     28.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXi
/dev/loop19              28.0K     28.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libfontenc
/dev/loop20             116.0K    116.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXfont
/dev/loop21               1.2M      1.2M         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/Xlibs
/dev/loop22             112.0K    112.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/Xprogs
/dev/loop23             364.0K    364.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/Xvesa
/dev/loop24              56.0K     56.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/aterm
/dev/loop25              28.0K     28.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/flwm_topside
/dev/loop26              36.0K     36.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/wbar
/dev/loop27             140.0K    140.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/kmaps
/dev/sdb1               975.1M    251.6M    723.6M  26% /mnt/sdb1
/dev/loop28              68.0K     68.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/liblzma
/dev/loop29             724.0K    724.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libxml2
/dev/loop30              12.0K     12.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libffi
/dev/loop31               1.1M      1.1M         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/glib2
/dev/loop32              88.0K     88.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libcroco
/dev/loop33             148.0K    148.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libtiff
/dev/loop34             180.0K    180.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/gdk-pixbuf2
/dev/loop35              64.0K     64.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libxkbfile
/dev/loop36              40.0K     40.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libpciaccess
/dev/loop37              16.0K     16.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libdmx
/dev/loop38              20.0K     20.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXxf86vm
/dev/loop39              20.0K     20.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXxf86dga
/dev/loop40               8.0K      8.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXv
/dev/loop41              16.0K     16.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXvmc
/dev/loop42              24.0K     24.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXtst
/dev/loop43              12.0K     12.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXss
/dev/loop44               8.0K      8.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXres
/dev/loop45              12.0K     12.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXinerama
/dev/loop46              60.0K     60.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/expat2
/dev/loop47             144.0K    144.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/fontconfig
/dev/loop48              36.0K     36.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXft
/dev/loop49              20.0K     20.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXfixes
/dev/loop50              12.0K     12.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXdamage
/dev/loop51              44.0K     44.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXcursor
/dev/loop52              12.0K     12.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXcomposite
/dev/loop53             308.0K    308.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXaw
/dev/loop54              52.0K     52.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libFS
/dev/loop55              44.0K     44.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/udev-lib
/dev/loop56             104.0K    104.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libdrm
/dev/loop57             124.0K    124.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libGL
/dev/loop58             248.0K    248.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/pixman
/dev/loop59             544.0K    544.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/cairo
/dev/loop60             136.0K    136.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/harfbuzz
/dev/loop61             192.0K    192.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/pango
/dev/loop62              96.0K     96.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/librsvg
/dev/loop63               8.0K      8.0K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/hicolor-icon-theme
/dev/loop64               9.5M      9.5M         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/gnome-icon-theme
tc@box:~$
tc@box: df -i
Filesystem              Inodes      Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs                    8.4K      8.4K         2 100% /
tmpfs                     9.2K         1      9.2K   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1               100.5K       378    100.2K   0% /mnt/sda1
/dev/loop0                   8         8         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libpng
/dev/loop1                   7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libjpeg-turbo
/dev/loop2                   7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/freetype
/dev/loop3                  22        22         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/imlib2
/dev/loop4                  12        12         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/imlib2-bin
/dev/loop5                  14        14         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXdmcp
/dev/loop6                  14        14         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXau
/dev/loop7                  82        82         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libxcb
/dev/loop8                 250       250         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libX11
/dev/loop9                   7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXext
/dev/loop10                 10        10         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/fltk-1.1.10
/dev/loop11                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXrender
/dev/loop12                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXrandr
/dev/loop13                 10        10         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXpm
/dev/loop14                 17        17         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libSM
/dev/loop15                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libICE
/dev/loop16                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXt
/dev/loop17                 10        10         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXmu
/dev/loop18                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXi
/dev/loop19                 15        15         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libfontenc
/dev/loop20                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXfont
/dev/loop21                179       179         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/Xlibs
/dev/loop22                 48        48         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/Xprogs
/dev/loop23                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/Xvesa
/dev/loop24                 13        13         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/aterm
/dev/loop25                 13        13         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/flwm_topside
/dev/loop26                 20        20         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/wbar
/dev/loop27                165       165         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/kmaps
/dev/sdb1                    0         0         0   0% /mnt/sdb1
/dev/loop28                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/liblzma
/dev/loop29                  8         8         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libxml2
/dev/loop30                  8         8         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libffi
/dev/loop31                 42        42         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/glib2
/dev/loop32                  9         9         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libcroco
/dev/loop33                 14        14         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libtiff
/dev/loop34                 35        35         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/gdk-pixbuf2
/dev/loop35                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libxkbfile
/dev/loop36                 13        13         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libpciaccess
/dev/loop37                 15        15         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libdmx
/dev/loop38                 15        15         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXxf86vm
/dev/loop39                 16        16         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXxf86dga
/dev/loop40                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXv
/dev/loop41                 10        10         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXvmc
/dev/loop42                 16        16         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXtst
/dev/loop43                 15        15         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXss
/dev/loop44                 15        15         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXres
/dev/loop45                 16        16         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXinerama
/dev/loop46                 11        11         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/expat2
/dev/loop47                 73        73         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/fontconfig
/dev/loop48                  7         7         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXft
/dev/loop49                 15        15         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXfixes
/dev/loop50                 15        15         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXdamage
/dev/loop51                 15        15         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXcursor
/dev/loop52                 15        15         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXcomposite
/dev/loop53                 13        13         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libXaw
/dev/loop54                 15        15         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libFS
/dev/loop55                 10        10         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/udev-lib
/dev/loop56                 19        19         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libdrm
/dev/loop57                 10        10         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libGL
/dev/loop58                 11        11         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/pixman
/dev/loop59                 26        26         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/cairo
/dev/loop60                 11        11         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/harfbuzz
/dev/loop61                 30        30         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/pango
/dev/loop62                 15        15         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/librsvg
/dev/loop63                347       347         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/hicolor-icon-theme
/dev/loop64               5.8K      5.8K         0 100% /tmp/tcloop/gnome-icon-theme
tc@box:~$

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: alouestn1 on January 07, 2014, 04:27:11 PM

I installed gedit OnDemand with the Apps software.
Before gedit launched there is 28744k free mem and the swap partition empty.

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tc@box:~$ gedit
/usr/share/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 1 fonts, 0 dirs
/usr/lib/X11/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 2 dirs
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi: caching, new cache contents: 48 fonts, 0 dirs
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc: caching, new cache contents: 48 fonts, 0 dirs
/usr/local/share/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/.local/share/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/usr/share/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 1 fonts, 0 dirs
/usr/lib/X11/fonts: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 2 dirs
/usr/local/share/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/.local/share/fonts: skipping, no such directory
/var/cache/fontconfig: cleaning cache directory
/.cache/fontconfig: not cleaning non-existent cache directory
fc-cache: succeeded
warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.locale' has path '/system/locale/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/' or '/system/' are deprecated.
warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy' has path '/system/proxy/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/' or '/system/' are deprecated.
warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy.http' has path '/system/proxy/http/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/' or '/system/' are deprecated.
warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy.https' has path '/system/proxy/https/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/' or '/system/' are deprecated.
warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy.ftp' has path '/system/proxy/ftp/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/' or '/system/' are deprecated.
warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy.socks' has path '/system/proxy/socks/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/' or '/system/' are deprecated.
warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.locale' has path '/system/locale/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/' or '/system/' are deprecated.
warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy' has path '/system/proxy/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/' or '/system/' are deprecated.
warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy.http' has path '/system/proxy/http/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/' or '/system/' are deprecated.
warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy.https' has path '/system/proxy/https/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/' or '/system/' are deprecated.
warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy.ftp' has path '/system/proxy/ftp/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/' or '/system/' are deprecated.
warning: Schema 'org.gnome.system.proxy.socks' has path '/system/proxy/socks/'.  Paths starting with '/apps/', '/desktop/' or '/system/' are deprecated.

** (gedit:2258): WARNING **: Could not load Gedit repository: Typelib file for namespace 'Gedit', version '3.0' not found

** (gedit:2258): WARNING **: Could not load Peas repository: Typelib file for namespace 'Peas', version '1.0' not found

** (gedit:2258): WARNING **: Could not load PeasGtk repository: Typelib file for namespace 'PeasGtk', version '1.0' not found

(gedit:2258): Gtk-WARNING **: Could not find the icon 'user-bookmarks-symbolic'. The 'hicolor' theme
was not found either, perhaps you need to install it.
You can get a copy from:
http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/releases

** (gedit:2258): WARNING **: Could not load theme icon user-bookmarks-symbolic: Icon 'user-bookmarks-symbolic' not present in theme

** (gedit:2258): WARNING **: Could not load theme icon user-home-symbolic: Icon 'user-home-symbolic' not present in theme

** (gedit:2258): WARNING **: Could not load theme icon drive-harddisk-symbolic: Icon 'drive-harddisk-symbolic' not present in theme

** (gedit:2258): WARNING **: Could not load theme icon system-file-manager: Icon 'system-file-manager' not present in theme
tc@box:~$
After gedit launched there is 2048k free mem and the swap below :

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tc@box:~$ cat /proc/swaps
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/dev/sda2                               partition 297196 972 -1
I take about five minutes as I see the gedit window, is it usual ?
I have a Pentium 166 Mhz processor and 80 Mb Ram.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: Juanito on January 07, 2014, 10:32:10 PM

The lack of ram is what is slowing things down, not the processor.

With so little ram, you'd be better off using gtk1 apps like beaver, emelfm and so on.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: alouestn1 on January 08, 2014, 01:28:23 AM

Were I can find a list of software using gtk1 ?

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: Juanito on January 08, 2014, 02:24:14 AM

You could try using the apps gui to search tags for gtk1

There's beaver, emelfm, gimp (tc-4.x), gtkfind, sylpheed-gtk1 and xmms that I can think of...

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: tinypoodle on January 08, 2014, 12:51:53 PM

As suspected since Reply #17, you ran out of inodes on rootfs before swap even would get touched.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: tinypoodle on January 08, 2014, 01:35:53 PM

You can experiment with gradually increasing inode count until you no longer get "No space left on device" errors, e.g.:

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sudo mount -o remount,nr_inodes=12K /

Edit: Also I'd suggest you permanently keep an xterm open with:

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df -i /

and keep a close eye on it.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: gerald_clark on January 08, 2014, 01:44:11 PM

That would be a good boot option to add to tc-config.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: curaga on January 08, 2014, 03:42:06 PM

The defaults should be better w/ inodes in 5.2.

Title: Re: Core Plus - Ram full
Post by: tinypoodle on January 08, 2014, 09:04:11 PM

Quote from: tinypoodle on January 08, 2014, 01:35:53 PM

You can experiment with gradually increasing inode count until you no longer get "No space left on device" errors, e.g.:

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sudo mount -o remount,nr_inodes=12K /


Upon some further investigation and testing it seems like that is just a maximum value, and even setting a value of 3G didn't cause any imminent side effect; so I think you could directly try a relatively high value.