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Title: (solved) Issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); which Xorg.conf ?
Post by: floppy on April 02, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
I got a PC with a nvidia Gforce fx5200 (NV34) 128MB.
a) The multicore iso dont boot but come mostly to prompt (at different time depending of the RAM quantity).
b) A light version from core with xvesa boots but freeze after a certain time.

Issue..
a) the mobo is dead ?
b) ... or I have to install a nvidia driver at boot time.

So, can I have a recommendation ? (I already spent 3 hours on that machine..)
- boot core.gz  &..
- boot the list (in onboot.lst for using the bootcode lst=onboot.lst)

nvidia-module-3.0.x-tinycore.tcz
flash10.tcz
Xlibs.tcz
appbrowser-cli.tcz
wbar.tcz
Xvesa.tcz
Xprogs.tcz
flwm_topside.tcz

on boot?

Or should I need additional modules at boot?

Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: gerald_clark on April 02, 2012, 05:55:56 PM
If you get a '$' prompt, it is booting.
losetup will show you what extensions successfully loaded.
Try running xsetup followed by startx.
Report errors here.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: robc on April 03, 2012, 01:32:32 AM
nvidia-module-3.0.x-tinycore.tcz
flash10.tcz
Xlibs.tcz
appbrowser-cli.tcz
wbar.tcz
Xvesa.tcz
Xprogs.tcz
flwm_topside.tcz
The Xvesa extension should be able to give you a display without loading any graphics modules.  You may want to try Xorg-7.5 instead of Xvesa.  You can then use nvidia-settings.tcz to adjust your hardware settings.  Xvesa in 4.x does not work well with my nvidia gpus.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: Rich on April 03, 2012, 11:04:22 AM
Hi floppy
According to AppBrowser, the Nvidia driver is version 280.13. The Nvidia website lists this as a 64bit Linux driver and
your card is not on the list of supported cards.
http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/34961
According to the website, you want version 173.1431.
http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/35482
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: floppy on April 03, 2012, 02:42:08 PM
Hi floppy
According to AppBrowser, the Nvidia driver is version 280.13. The Nvidia website lists this as a 64bit Linux driver and
your card is not on the list of supported cards.
http://www.geforce.com/Drivers/Results/34961
According to the website, you want version 173.1431.
http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/35482
ok rich. so, what should I do?..
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: Rich on April 03, 2012, 02:51:13 PM
H floppy
Download and compile it? From the website:
Quote
nstallation instructions: Once you have downloaded the driver, type " sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.31.pkg1.run" to install the driver. NVIDIA now provides a utility to assist you with configuration of your X server configuration file. See the README or run 'man nvidia-xconfig' for details on usage and instructions for those wishing to edit their X config file by hand.
Running the script will do a compile and install. If I remember correctly, you want to switch to the console (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace)
and enter   sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.31.pkg1.run. If you add  --help  to the end of the command it should spit
out a bunch of options.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: floppy on April 03, 2012, 03:04:36 PM
ouch.. seems to be a work for a long winter time.. thanks.. will have a look.
.. or can somebody make an extension upgrade with it..?
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: floppy on April 03, 2012, 03:23:48 PM
Report errors here.
error from the first multicore boot http://imagebin.org/206569
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: Rich on April 03, 2012, 03:28:38 PM
Hi floppy
If you change your mind, here are a couple of scripts that do most of the work for you, place them in your home directory.

create-nvidia-raw This script runs the nvidia script and then tracks down the files it created, placing them under
nvidia-raw/rawpackage. You may wish to comment out the last line, it forces the creation of a new xorg.conf file
overwriting the current one.

create-nvidia-package The title pretty much says it all. It creates a proper directory tree under  nvidia-raw/package with
all the files. It creates the tc-installed file. It modifies the desktop file to work with TC. It removes any files with  tls  in
their name, which Arslan S. reported as being troublesome. Finally it packages it all up into an extension.

Be sure to change the VERS variable to 173.14.31 first in the beginning of both scripts.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: Rich on April 03, 2012, 03:51:52 PM
Hi floppy
I don't know how to break this to you, but you better sit down and brace yourself. You are getting read errors from
your CD, and it gets worse, I'm pretty sure that SQUASHFS error can't be good.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: floppy on April 03, 2012, 05:19:05 PM
Hi floppy
I don't know how to break this to you, but you better sit down and brace yourself. You are getting read errors from
your CD, and it gets worse, I'm pretty sure that SQUASHFS error can't be good.
does it mean the mobo is most probably dead?
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: tinypoodle on April 03, 2012, 06:19:19 PM
It means the data can not be properly read from your medium, for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: Rich on April 03, 2012, 09:48:45 PM
Hi floppy
The first thing I would do is try booting another machine with that CD. If it boots, look through dmesg and check
if any errors are logged pertaining to accessing the CD. If dmesg shows CD errors or the disc doesn't boot,
re-download the ISO and be sure to verify the MD5. Install cdrtools.tcz and burn a new disc:
Code: [Select]
cdrecord dev=ATA:0,0,0 speed=10 padsize=63s -pad -dao -v -eject Filename.isoTo determine which   dev   your drive is, enter  cdrecord -scanbus
Replace the  0,0,0  with your drives numbers if different. If it says it can't find the dev, try leaving out the  ATA:

If the CD does boot without errors, then you have to look at the hardware. Try a different cable and CD drive.
Try the boot code  libata.dma=5
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: floppy on April 07, 2012, 03:52:11 PM
Hi floppy
If you change your mind, here are a couple of scripts that do most of the work for you, place them in your home directory.

create-nvidia-raw This script runs the nvidia script and then tracks down the files it created, placing them under
nvidia-raw/rawpackage. You may wish to comment out the last line, it forces the creation of a new xorg.conf file
overwriting the current one.

I tried to make that package. Following log error appear in nvidia-installer.log
No data are created in the rawpackage.

from the PC with the nvidia card

nvidia-installer log file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log'
creation time: Sat Apr  7 21:13:26 2012
installer version: 1.0.7

PATH:
/home/tc/.local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bi
n:/apps/bin:/etc/sysconfig/tcedir/ondemand

option status:
  license pre-accepted               : false
  update                             : false
  force update                       : false
  expert                             : false
  uninstall                          : false
  driver info                        : false
  precompiled interfaces             : true
  no ncurses color                   : false
  query latest version               : false
  OpenGL header files                : true
  no questions                       : false
  silent                             : false
  no recursion                       : false
  no backup                          : false
  kernel module only                 : false
  sanity                             : false
  add this kernel                    : false
  no runlevel check                  : false
  no network                         : false
  no ABI note                        : false
  no RPMs                            : false
  no kernel module                   : false
  force SELinux                      : default
  no X server check                  : false
  no cc version check                : false
  run distro scripts                 : true
  no nouveau check                   : false
  run nvidia-xconfig                 : false
  sigwinch work around               : true
  force tls                          : (not specified)
  X install prefix                   : (not specified)
  X library install path             : (not specified)
  X module install path              : (not specified)
  OpenGL install prefix              : (not specified)
  OpenGL install libdir              : (not specified)
  utility install prefix             : (not specified)
  utility install libdir             : (not specified)
  installer prefix                   : (not specified)
  doc install prefix                 : (not specified)
  kernel name                        : (not specified)
  kernel include path                : (not specified)
  kernel source path                 : (not specified)
  kernel output path                 : (not specified)
  kernel install path                : (not specified)
  precompiled kernel interfaces path : (not specified)
  precompiled kernel interfaces url  : (not specified)
  proc mount point                   : /proc
  ui                                 : (not specified)
  tmpdir                             : /tmp
  ftp mirror                         : ftp://download.nvidia.com
  RPM file list                      : (not specified)
  selinux chcon type                 : (not specified)

Using: nvidia-installer ncurses user interface
WARNING: Skipping the runlevel check (the utility `runlevel` was not found).
-> License accepted.
-> Installing NVIDIA driver version 173.14.31.
-> Performing CC sanity check with CC="cc".
-> Performing CC version check with CC="cc".
ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.
       Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your
       kernel and that they are properly configured; on Red Hat Linux systems,
       for example, be sure you have the 'kernel-source' or 'kernel-devel' RPM
       installed.  If you know the correct kernel source files are installed,
       you may specify the kernel source path with the '--kernel-source-path'
       command line option.
ERROR: Installation has failed.  Please see the file
       '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for details.  You may find suggestions
       on fixing installation problems in the README available on the Linux
       driver download page at www.nvidia.com.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: Rich on April 07, 2012, 04:46:53 PM
Hi floppy
You of course have the compiletc extension installed, right? This package may also require that you install the
linux-headers3.0.xx-tinycore extension. If using the nvidia interface directly works better for you then just comment
out the nvidia run line in the create-nvidia-raw script. I forgot to mention that I switched to console mode first with
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace before running any of the scripts. If you run the nvidia supplied script directly, use sudo.

Title: Issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); which xorg setup?
Post by: floppy on April 07, 2012, 04:56:07 PM
That was the headers..

When I created the rawdata, an error came with the nvidia...run
ERROR: The runtime configuration check failed for the library 'libnvidia-tls.so.173.14.31' (expected '/usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1', found '/usr/lib/libnvidia-tls.so.1'). The most likely reason for this is that conflicting OpenGL libraries are installed in a location not inspected by 'nvidia-installer'. Please be sure you have uninstalled any third-party OpenGL and/or thirsd-party graphics driver packages.

Few errors are coming now.

>>> at boot (with boot code showapps), just after the loading of the newly created extension nvidia... following message come to the screen:
ldconfig=/usr/lib/ next: libstdc++.so.6.0.16-gdb.py is not a shared library, skipping

>>> in the last lines of dmesg
NVRM: The NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 GPU installed in this system is
NVRM:  supported through the NVIDIA 173.14.xx Legacy drivers. Please
NVRM:  visit http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html for more
NVRM:  information.  The 280.13 NVIDIA driver will ignore
NVRM:  this GPU.  Continuing probe...
NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter found!

>>> the xorglog in the attachment

Perhaps I should delete the nvidia kernel drivers, or something else?
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: Rich on April 07, 2012, 05:40:23 PM
Hi floppy
Quote
>>> at boot just after trying to create the extension nvidia/... i made
ldconfig=/usr/lib/ next: libstdc++.so.6.0.16-gdb.py is not a shared library, skipping
I did not need to run anything except the scripts.
Quote
>>> in the last lines of dmesg
NVRM: The NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 GPU installed in this system is
NVRM:  supported through the NVIDIA 173.14.xx Legacy drivers. Please
NVRM:  visit http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html for more
NVRM:  information.  The 280.13 NVIDIA driver will ignore
NVRM:  this GPU.  Continuing probe...
NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter found!
You still have nvidia-module-3.0.x-tinycore.tcz in your onboot.lst, which is the 280.13 version. The message just says
that the nvidia-module-3.0.x-tinycore.tcz extension won't load anything for your board because it doesn't contain a
suitable driver. That's expected. Remove that extension from your onboot.lst, it doesn't support your board.
I'm not completely clear on how it's going, so:
1. Does the nvidia run script complete without errors? A few warnings are normal.
2. Does the create-nvidia-raw script complete without errors?
3. Does the create-nvidia-package script complete without errors?
If you answer yes to all three, you are almost done.
Attached is my xorg.conf which you can use as starting point if you wish. Also a dep file which the script does not
create. Replace the word KERNEL with the result of the command   uname -r

Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: Rich on April 07, 2012, 06:26:14 PM
Hi floppy
I see you added something to your previous post:
Quote
When I created the rawdata, an error came with the nvidia...run
ERROR: The runtime configuration check failed for the library 'libnvidia-tls.so.173.14.31' (expected '/usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1', found '/usr/lib/libnvidia-tls.so.1'). The most likely reason for this is that conflicting OpenGL libraries are installed in a location not inspected by 'nvidia-installer'. Please be sure you have uninstalled any third-party OpenGL and/or thirsd-party graphics driver packages.
That's probably because you have other nvidia extensions installed.
If the scripts look like they all ran correctly, copy the tcz and dep files to tce/optional. make sure you have an
/etc/X11/xorg.conf file. Then enter  sudo tce-load -i /path to tce/optional/nvidia-173.14.....tcz. Then startx.

  @ALL: Rather than adding information to an existing post, add a new post so that it shows up on the unread topics page.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: floppy on April 08, 2012, 03:30:52 AM
Hi floppy
Quote
>>> at boot just after trying to create the extension nvidia/... i made
ldconfig=/usr/lib/ next: libstdc++.so.6.0.16-gdb.py is not a shared library, skipping
I did not need to run anything except the scripts.

this is my mistake (very late post last night): the correct explanation would have been:

>>> at boot (with boot code showapps), just after the loading of the newly created extension nvidia... following message come to the screen:
"ldconfig=/usr/lib/ next: libstdc++.so.6.0.16-gdb.py is not a shared library, skipping"

so,
1) error during the rawdata creation with the "nvidia run" programm (see before)
2) raw script completed without error
3) package creation script completed without error
only errors during extension looading (see above) and error in dmesg.

I will delete the nvidia-module-3.0.x-tinycore.tcz extension as you suggested and post any progress here.
Thanks rich for your undestructible patience.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: Juanito on April 08, 2012, 03:53:11 AM
libstdc++.so.6.0.16-gdb.py is not a shared library, skipping

You can safely ignore this message
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: floppy on April 08, 2012, 07:25:49 AM
Thanks all.
So, now the pc boots without error when no xorg.conf is created (the extension I made yesterday is so far ok; it has still to be fully tested with a running conf file; the scripts from rich are so far ok).
Im now facing a setup issue with my xorg.conf
The screen gets black or freeze as soon I start the pc with an xorg.conf file (conf file from rich or from the attachment) .. and cannot access any xorg.0.log file.
Im still searching the reason and a method how to debug the conf file.
Any comment  is welcome.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: Rich on April 08, 2012, 11:21:21 AM
Hi floppy
In the dep file I supplied, did you remember to replace the word KERNEL with the result of the command   uname -r
This is to insure that the correct  graphics-x.x.x-tinycore.tcz  gets loaded.
Notes:
1. From the black screen, see if  Ctrl-Alt-Backspace  kicks you back into the console.
2. I used Xorg7.5. Xorg7.6 would freeze up on me.
3. Creating xorg.conf with
      A. sudo Xorg -configure  or
      B. sudo Xorg -configure  followed by  sudo nvidia-xconfig
   both resulted in a black screen. I had to use  sudo nvidia-xconfig --virtual=1920x1080 --mode=1920x1080 --force-generate
   The  --force-generate  option makes it delete the existing  xorg.conf and create a new one.
   I needed the  --virtual  and  --mode  switches to get my screen sized correctly.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: floppy on April 08, 2012, 03:27:53 PM
progress made with the "rich" instructions.
xorg file and its log.
Im still searching the setup.
(screen is still hanging up)
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: floppy on April 08, 2012, 03:42:09 PM
wrong log file in the previous post  because it was overwriten by a startx with a vesa conf file.
Correct one is here.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: Rich on April 08, 2012, 04:27:04 PM
Hi floppy
Try replacing the  Screen  section in your  xorg.conf  with:
Code: [Select]
Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Virtual     1024 768
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1024x768" "800x600"
    EndSubSection
EndSection
You can also try commenting out the  Modules  section in case one of the modules is causing a conflict.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: floppy on April 09, 2012, 06:25:01 AM
a) xorg.conf.new file (see attachment) still gives a black screen
after sudo X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf.new
I go back to the prompt with strg-alt-backspace
End of dmesg
...
ACPI: resource 0000:00:02.1 [io  0x0c00-0x0c1f] conflicts with ACPI region SMRG [io 0xc00-0xc1f]
ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver
agpgart-sis 0000:00:00.0: SiS chipset [1039/0746]
agpgart-sis 0000:00:00.0: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xd0000000
nvidia 0000:01:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
vgaarb: device changed decodes: PCI:0000:01:00.0,olddecodes=io+mem,decodes=none:owns=io+mem
NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  173.14.31  Sun Jul 17 22:11:28 PDT 2011
eth0: Media Link On 100mbps full-duplex
EXT4-fs (sda1): error count: 23
EXT4-fs (sda1): initial error at 1333886435: ext4_lookup:1044: inode 333932
EXT4-fs (sda1): last error at 1333889797: ext4_mb_generate_buddy:736
agpgart-sis 0000:00:00.0: AGP 3.0 bridge
agpgart-sis 0000:00:00.0: putting AGP V3 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 8x mode
agpgart-sis 0000:00:00.0: SiS delay workaround: giving bridge time to recover
agpgart-sis 0000:00:00.0: putting AGP V3 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 8x mode

b) acpi=off made an hangup.

c) When I then included hsync and Vrefresh params, a Nividia pictures appears on the screen (nomore black) after sudo X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf.new
But it hangs up after startx.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: Rich on April 09, 2012, 01:40:58 PM
Hi floppy
I'm running out of ideas here. The differences I see between what you have and what I have is that I don't have
a  Files  or  Modules  section in my xorg.conf and I'm running a 3.0.3 kernel. I could not run Xorg7.6 because it
would freeze up on me, but maybe it will work better for you.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: floppy on April 09, 2012, 01:57:53 PM
Hi floppy
I'm running out of ideas here. The differences I see between what you have and what I have is that I don't have
a  Files  or  Modules  section in my xorg.conf and I'm running a 3.0.3 kernel. I could not run Xorg7.6 because it
would freeze up on me, but maybe it will work better for you.
thanks for the help!
This topic is probably like a good bottle of a bordeaux-wine: dont touch it, think about it, look at it.. it need time before it become mature. So, no panic at all.. the solution is there.. here.. I just have to find out where exactly.
My impression is the nvidia drivers are extremely sensitive with the xorg.conf format. I will delete the modules and files.
The Xorg7.5.tcz posted is from 2.6.33. Perhaps a new compilation with 3.0.3 or 21 could be good (Im running kernel 3.0.21).
Title: Re: Issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); which Xorg.conf setup?
Post by: Rich on April 09, 2012, 02:33:21 PM
Hi floppy
In the  Device  section of your xorg.conf, try adding
Option   "NvAGP" "0"
and see if that fixes the freezing problem.
Title: Re: Issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); which Xorg.conf setup?
Post by: floppy on April 10, 2012, 03:19:12 PM
according your recommendation and http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.31/README/chapter-12.html

Tried 0 and 1. Freeze with black screen (no PC freeze).
2 gives a pc freeze (nvidia picture comes up).
3 gives a screen freeze with black screen (no pc freeze).

Seems that somebody
- putted "NvAGP" "1"
- blacklisted the agpgart and sis_agp in ubuntu: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/dunkler-bildschirm-mit-nvidia-geforce-fx-5200/?highlight=x11#post-164618

or here, too.  http://www.mail-archive.com/linuxkernelnewbies@googlegroups.com/msg00437.html

Next try was:  (my chip is a sis746)
- according the first link in that post, the FX 5200 should use the AGPGART. -> "NvAGP"  "3".
- sis_agp blacklisted at boot
-> PC freeze

I will try "NvAGP"  "1" and blacklist AGPGART + SIS_AGP.
Title: Re: Issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); which Xorg.conf setup?
Post by: Rich on April 11, 2012, 12:26:35 AM
Hi floppy
It's possible the nvidia driver is buggy. Maybe you want to try the driver that comes with Xorg.
In the  Device  section of your  xorg.conf  change:
Code: [Select]
    Driver         "nvidia"to:
Code: [Select]
    Driver         "nv"and see how that behaves.
Title: Re: Issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); which Xorg.conf setup?
Post by: floppy on April 11, 2012, 02:53:33 AM
Extension name?
Title: Re: Issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); which Xorg.conf setup?
Post by: Rich on April 11, 2012, 08:28:03 AM
Hi floppy
It's part of the  Xorg7.5 extension (/usr/local/lib/X11/modules/drivers/nv_drv.so). Changing  nvidia  to  nv  in your
existing  xorg.conf  file should be sufficient to try it out.
Title: Re: Issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); which Xorg.conf setup?
Post by: floppy on April 11, 2012, 02:07:44 PM
1) I wanted to give a try to "NvAGP"  "1" and blacklist AGPGART + SIS_AGP (nvidia driver + Xorg7.5) = use of the nvidia AGP.
Result (sort of improvement)
   The screen comes.
   Wbar is there.
-> PC preeze after few mouse movement

2) Xorg7.6 dont start due to glx failed to load. I will load nvidia-glx at boot and post any result here.

I will try rich recommendation a bit later (exchange nvidia with nv driver).
Title: Re: Issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); which Xorg.conf setup?
Post by: floppy on April 11, 2012, 03:28:46 PM
Solved. The nv driver from xorg75 had to be used (not the last nvidia driver after compilation).

- asrock Motherboard K7S8X
- Nvidia FX 5200 PCI  10de:0322,  SiS chipset [1039/0746]
- Core 4.4 (kernel 3.0.21)

====================== extlinux command =================
LABEL core4.4
   MENU LABEL core4.4
   KERNEL /boot/core4_4/vmlinuz
        APPEND vga=ask quiet showapps pause waitusb=5:UUID="cc9e97b9-67de-4e85-8f80-750a7d0f8841" tce=UUID="cc9e97b9-67de-4e85-8f80-750a7d0f8841"/tce4 lst=asrockxorg.lst mydata=fx5200
        initrd /boot/core4_4/core.gz

====================== xorg.conf ========================
# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder75)  Sun Jul 17 22:46:17 PDT 2011

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
    Option         "XkbLayout" "de"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "Unknown"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 96.0
    VertRefresh     50.0 - 150.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nv"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Virtual     1024 768
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1024x768"
    EndSubSection
EndSection


====================== onboot.lst ========================
fltk-1.10.tcz
Xlibs.tcz
appbrowser-cli.tcz
wbar.tcz
Xprogs.tcz
flwm_topside.tcz
Xorg-7.5.tcz

====================== .filetool.lst ========================
opt
etc/X11/xorg.conf

====================== lsmod result ======================
Module                  Size  Used by    Tainted: P 
cpufreq_userspace      12288  0
cpufreq_powersave      12288  0
cpufreq_stats          12288  0
cpufreq_conservative    12288  0
squashfs               24576 30
scsi_wait_scan         12288  0
zcache                 12288  0
zram                   12288  1
loop                   16384 60
ppdev                  12288  0
pcspkr                 12288  0
sis900                 20480  0
parport_pc             24576  0
floppy                 45056  0
parport                24576  2 ppdev,parport_pc

=======================================================
Im writing fom the pc with the nvidia card.

THANKS RICH.
Title: Re: (solved) Issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); which Xorg.conf ?
Post by: Rich on April 11, 2012, 03:55:09 PM
Hi floppy
It's too bad the driver you compiled did not work, but least the built-in driver sounds like it is working for you.
You also no longer require   Option     "NvAGP" "1"
Title: Re: (solved) Issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); which Xorg.conf ?
Post by: floppy on April 11, 2012, 05:13:19 PM
yes. If somebody need the nvidia-173.14.31-3.0.21-tinycore.tcz , I can submit it.
Perhaps not necessary: Rich compilation script earlier in the thread is fine.
Perhaps should I contact nvidia to inform them of the "non success" so, they can improve the driver again. Who? Where to contact them?
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: floppy on May 01, 2012, 11:48:57 AM

2. I used Xorg7.5. Xorg7.6 would freeze up on me.

Update 1: I achieved to boot that nvidia FX5200 with knoppix 6.7.1 (Xorg7.6) with the "nouveau" driver (no Xorg.conf) by disabling the acceleration with a knoppix cheat code "nouveau.noaccel=1".

So, a guess with TCL and nvidiaFX5200 would be (probably)
- load Xorg 7.6 at boot
- create an Xorg.conf which disable the acceleration..
- AND wait for a new "nouveau" driver supporting the accelation for the FX5200
- AND (better).. simply stay with Xorg7.5 as posted before

Update 2: the first errors at the beginning of that thread came probably because the CD Reader and the CD/DVD Writer were both on the master IDE cable and the MoBo had issues loading data. According the asrock BIOS update info, a BIOS upgrade would solve the issue. In fact, now, I have moved the CD and CD/DVD on the slave IDE cable, putted the newest BIOS on the PC, connected the HDD to the master IDE cable. And: the whole system is running stable since few weeks.

Title: Re: (solved) Issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); which Xorg.conf ?
Post by: curaga on May 01, 2012, 12:33:06 PM
It's likely nouveau will never support your 5200 properly. They only have a few people and focus on the new cards.
Title: Re: Boot issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); how to make it booting?
Post by: tinypoodle on May 01, 2012, 12:46:34 PM
Update 1: I achieved to boot that nvidia FX5200 with knoppix 6.7.1 (Xorg7.6) with the "nouveau" driver (no Xorg.conf) by disabling the acceleration with a knoppix cheat code "nouveau.noaccel=1".

Have you tried the same with TC?
Title: Re: (solved) Issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); which Xorg.conf ?
Post by: curaga on May 01, 2012, 12:56:48 PM
We don't have nouveau in the repo at all, as it wasn't stable at the time of the builds.
Title: Re: (solved) Issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); which Xorg.conf ?
Post by: floppy on August 11, 2012, 08:55:43 AM
We don't have nouveau in the repo at all, as it wasn't stable at the time of the builds.
Since TinyCore with the "nv" driver stop working for my fx5200 card after few time (depend of the activity with the PC: from 15min to 1/2h), I would like to make a "nouveautesting" extension.
Has somebody any advice how to create that extension?
Perhaps it is the same procedure as for creating an nvidia extension indicated in the beginning of that thread?
Title: Re: (solved) Issues with a PC with NVDIA GForce FX5200 (NV34); which Xorg.conf ?
Post by: Gawron on July 14, 2013, 02:47:19 PM
Hi floppy xorg-7.6 works without troubles with GeForce FX 5200. The problem is probably in your hardware. On my computer I only added nv diver to my system with command
tce-load -wi xf86-video-nv
My xorg.conf has driver nv in section device. So far had no problems with this driver. Only changed resolution for my screen in section monitor.
Here is my xorg.conf
# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier   "Generic Keyboard"
   Driver      "kbd"
   Option      "XkbRules"   "xorg"
   Option      "XkbModel"   "pc105"
   Option      "XkbLayout"   "pl"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier   "Configured Mouse"
   Driver      "mouse"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option "DontZap" "False" # disable <Ctrl><Alt><BS> (server abort)
    AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not work
    #DontZoom # disable <Ctrl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)
EndSection
Section "Files"
    FontPath     "/tmp/tcloop/xfonts-unifont/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Disable "dri"
    Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
    Load "extmod"
    Load "glx" # 3D layer
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "monitor1"
    VendorName "Plug'n Play"
    ModelName "SyncMaster"
    HorizSync 30-81
    VertRefresh 56-75
   
    # Monitor preferred modeline (59.9 Hz vsync, 55.9 kHz hsync, ratio 16/10, 89 dpi)
    ModeLine "1440x900" 106.5 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 903 909 934 +hsync -vsync
   
    # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"     50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595  630
   
    # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"     63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590  616
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier "device1"
    VendorName "nVidia Corporation"
    BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce FX series"
    Driver "nv"
    Option "DPMS"
    Option "DynamicTwinView" "false"
    Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "screen1"
    Device "device1"
    Monitor "monitor1"
    DefaultColorDepth 24
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "layout1"
    Screen "screen1"
EndSection