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Tiny Core Extensions => TCE Talk => Topic started by: cast-fish on August 08, 2011, 02:35:03 PM

Title: minitube 1.5
Post by: cast-fish on August 08, 2011, 02:35:03 PM: Hello

is your mini-tube 1.5 extension working ok? (on a fresh tcl system?)

it does not seem to be working right here. No video plays or sound.

Other things work correctly , like youtube in a browser.

V.
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: Arslan S. on August 08, 2011, 03:39:36 PM: hi there is already an active thread in bugs section

and the problem is opengl dependency which is in Xorg so you need to load it
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: cast-fish on August 08, 2011, 03:51:27 PM: i need to load which dependancy from the tcl APPS list?

thanks

Vince.
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: Arslan S. on August 08, 2011, 04:34:27 PM: Xorg-7.5.tcz is the current Xorg version
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: cast-fish on August 08, 2011, 04:37:32 PM: ok Arslan thanks

It is telling me it will need to download 12 megs of data for me to install Xorg 7.5

V.
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: cast-fish on August 08, 2011, 06:12:21 PM: hello

mini tube works but now my laptop is using Xorg for graphics.

It has gone a bit sluggish. Screen draws are slow and stuff.

I have correctly installed the extra graphics extension which is recommended with Xorg
but it made no difference

Is there any way to still keep mini tube working but get back to old Xvesa graphics on my laptop.

thanks

V.
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: Arslan S. on August 08, 2011, 08:54:32 PM: there is a dirty way: backup libGL.so.* from Xorg-7.5

first copy them to file system / from /tmp/tcloop/Xorg-7.5/
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sudo cp -a /tmp/tcloop/Xorg-7.5/usr/local/lib/libGL.so.* /usr/local/libthen add to backup list (/opt/.filetool.lst)
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echo usr/local/lib/libGL.so.1 >> /opt/.filetool.lst echo usr/local/lib/libGL.so.1.2 >> /opt/.filetool.lst
if the size of libGL.so.1.2 is too big for backup you can create an extension see wiki page for details about extension making
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: curaga on August 09, 2011, 02:14:03 AM: Of course the above won't work if the app actually tries to use opengl...
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: Arslan S. on August 09, 2011, 02:40:09 AM: i think best way is to leave phonon backend choice to user i will remove phonon backend gstreamer dependency
phonon backend mplayer and xine also available
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: cast-fish on August 09, 2011, 12:47:19 PM: yes

i am not sure where you sit on the idea that a dependancy should be as invasive as to change the whole graphics engine for a persons OS.

Here, Xorg caused issues with my tcl and a sluggish display on the laptop via Xorg.

Also people may not realize to install the other dependancy that is recommended
when running Xorg (graphics..)

so i tried un-installing Xorg and it did not work. This further then
seemed to break certain Apps from appearing correctly on my screen.

In summary, Xorg messed things up on my tcl os. (by this point i'm not too bothered about mini-tube anymore)

I then deleted Xorg from TCE. This allowed my machine to go back to Xvesa but all the apps were screwed up.

I then re-installed Xvesa and finally got back to some place normal. But there are still apps that now don't show correctly on my screen.

What i mean to say is, is it normal procedure to have an app requiring a dependancy like Xorg which, when installed, then changes tcl to such a level?

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Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: curaga on August 09, 2011, 03:48:08 PM: If you think Xorg changes things, you haven't seen the Gnome extension ;)
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: vinceASPECT on August 09, 2011, 03:57:40 PM: ye

i don't know much

it just caused a bit of trouble with tcl here. (Xorg)

if it's between that and not running Minitube...then Minitube goes
to the side lines here...i'm afraid.

unless there is an easy effective way to have Mini-tube find it's Xorg
stuff but still run tcl using Xvesa.

V.
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: Arslan S. on August 10, 2011, 06:39:00 AM: you can now use minitube without Xorg
just update your minitube extension and load phonon-backend-mplayer
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 10, 2011, 04:53:40 PM: mintube still doesn't play though, since a resent change no video info is obtainable.

Continuous error "cannot get video info" and skips through each of those videos listed without playing.

(http://db.tt/ICpJHqv)
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: Arslan S. on August 10, 2011, 08:56:56 PM: i see no problem with a clean base test, check terminal messages ?
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: cast-fish on August 10, 2011, 10:08:32 PM: Hello
many many thanks indeed for the Xvesa minitube fix.

It works perfectly by just installing minitube.tcz and then............ phonon-backend-mplayer.

Xorg DOES work on my machine well for certain things like watching mplayer movies....but in general usage it is sluggish at windows painting and stuff.

V
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 11, 2011, 04:13:30 AM: Quote from: Arslan S. on August 10, 2011, 08:56:56 PM
i see no problem with a clean base test, check terminal messages ?
I have two systems running (correction three now) and all indicate the same issue. brb with the huge list of terminal errors!!
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 11, 2011, 12:04:03 PM: Ok now with a third install and still same "Cannot get video info" and this from the terminal
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tc@box:~$ minitube QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/VideoWidget.cpp 70 Phonon-MPlayer setAspectRatio Aspect ratio: 0 QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/MediaController.cpp 355 Phonon-MPlayer subtitleAdded QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/MediaController.cpp 394 Phonon-MPlayer subtitleChanged New current subtitle: "None" QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 180 Phonon-MPlayer objectDescriptionIndexes QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 212 Phonon-MPlayer objectDescriptionProperties QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 180 Phonon-MPlayer objectDescriptionIndexes QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 212 Phonon-MPlayer objectDescriptionProperties QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 256 Phonon-MPlayer startConnectionChange QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 258 Phonon-MPlayer startConnectionChange Node: Phonon::MPlayer::AudioOutput QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 258 Phonon-MPlayer startConnectionChange Node: Phonon::MPlayer::MediaObject QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 268 Phonon-MPlayer connectNodes Phonon::MPlayer::MediaObject Phonon::MPlayer::AudioOutput QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 329 Phonon-MPlayer endConnectionChange QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 331 Phonon-MPlayer endConnectionChange Node: Phonon::MPlayer::AudioOutput QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 331 Phonon-MPlayer endConnectionChange Node: Phonon::MPlayer::MediaObject QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 256 Phonon-MPlayer startConnectionChange QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 258 Phonon-MPlayer startConnectionChange Node: Phonon::MPlayer::VideoWidget QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 258 Phonon-MPlayer startConnectionChange Node: Phonon::MPlayer::MediaObject QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 268 Phonon-MPlayer connectNodes Phonon::MPlayer::MediaObject Phonon::MPlayer::VideoWidget QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 329 Phonon-MPlayer endConnectionChange QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 331 Phonon-MPlayer endConnectionChange Node: Phonon::MPlayer::VideoWidget QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/Backend.cpp 331 Phonon-MPlayer endConnectionChange Node: Phonon::MPlayer::MediaObject QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend-mplayer-git20110809/mplayer/SinkNode.cpp 63 Phonon-MPlayer sendMPlayerCommand MPlayer process not running Xlib: extension "SYNC" missing on display ":0.0". then followed by QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend- onon::MPlayer::VideoWidget QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend- rocess not running Xlib: extension "SYNC" missing on display ":0.0". GET "http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/videos?max-results=10&start-index=1&q=33 QAbstractItemModel::endInsertRows: Invalid index ( 1 , 0 ) in model ListModel(0 GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=WK2LpUoqX6A&el=embedded&ps=d GET "http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WK2LpUoqX6A/0.jpg" GET "http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qn_bjx-JaOQ/0.jpg" GET "http://i.ytimg.com/vi/56OBImptK40/0.jpg" GET "http://i.ytimg.com/vi/iStZyJO8bZI/0.jpg" GET "http://i.ytimg.com/vi/uNHGFOPZm44/0.jpg" GET "http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Yo1t33CcklA/0.jpg" GET "http://i.ytimg.com/vi/w3VZG_YPMkE/0.jpg" GET "http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5Q9Gou6d9Uo/0.jpg" GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=WK2LpUoqX6A&el=vevo&ps=defau GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=WK2LpUoqX6A&el=detailpage&ps GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=WK2LpUoqX6A&ps=default&eurl= GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=qn_bjx-JaOQ&el=embedded&ps=d GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=qn_bjx-JaOQ&el=vevo&ps=defau GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=qn_bjx-JaOQ&el=detailpage&ps GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=qn_bjx-JaOQ&ps=default&eurl= GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=56OBImptK40&el=embedded&ps=d GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=56OBImptK40&el=vevo&ps=defau GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=56OBImptK40&el=detailpage&ps GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=56OBImptK40&ps=default&eurl= GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=iStZyJO8bZI&el=embedded&ps=d GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=iStZyJO8bZI&el=vevo&ps=defau GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=iStZyJO8bZI&el=detailpage&ps GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=iStZyJO8bZI&ps=default&eurl= GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=uNHGFOPZm44&el=embedded&ps=d GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=uNHGFOPZm44&el=vevo&ps=defau GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=uNHGFOPZm44&el=detailpage&ps GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=uNHGFOPZm44&ps=default&eurl= GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=Yo1t33CcklA&el=embedded&ps=d GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=Yo1t33CcklA&el=vevo&ps=defau GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=Yo1t33CcklA&el=detailpage&ps GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=Yo1t33CcklA&ps=default&eurl= GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=w3VZG_YPMkE&el=embedded&ps=d GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=w3VZG_YPMkE&el=vevo&ps=defau GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=w3VZG_YPMkE&el=detailpage&ps GET "http://www.youtube.com/get_video_info?video_id=w3VZG_YPMkE&ps=default&eurl= QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend- QP_LOGGER /mnt/hda1/tc-ext-tools/phonon-backend-mplayer/src/temp/phonon-backend- Phonon::MPlayer::MediaObject
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 11, 2011, 01:02:08 PM: OMG this extension is driving me crazy!!

Honestly I don't know what this extension needs

installed minitube, phonon-backend-mplayer, oss

Yet still get these errors
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tc@box:~$ minitube WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded WARNING: Phonon::createPath: Cannot connect Phonon::MediaObject ( no objectName ) to Phonon::AudioOutput ( no objectName ). WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded WARNING: Phonon::createPath: Cannot connect Phonon::MediaObject ( no objectName ) to VideoWidget ( no objectName ). WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded Xlib: extension "SYNC" missing on display ":0.0".
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: Arslan S. on August 11, 2011, 04:32:00 PM: in the first part there is no error message, but the second one shows that phonon backend mplayer can not be loaded
to make sure there is no missing dep please report the results of following code
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ldd /usr/local/lib/kde4/plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_mplayer.so
in case of missing deps you need to update deps from appsaudit and then run tce-update
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 11, 2011, 04:41:16 PM: Well, in the first part there is this "sendMPlayerCommand MPlayer process not running " looks like an error to me?

Anyhow, three more base installs and trials later I finally managed to get minitube running.... Unfortunately it didn't last long :(

As soon as I installed Flash10 for firefox the appearance of everything working was short lived because after a reboot all sound was completely broken and had to reinstall all over again..
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 11, 2011, 04:54:09 PM: Honestly I think there is more than a dependency thing going on here, It has been my observation that there are too many conflicts with other dependencies which are at the root of these errors...

favorite programs which at this time cannot be ruled out of having a tendency to cause conflict are VLC, xine-vesa, flash and deadbeef.

Quote
in case of missing deps you need to update deps from appsaudit and then run tce-update
did that (am now running tc3.8 ) and running update or find missing dependencies produces no results.
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 11, 2011, 05:50:52 PM: ok just to be sure
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tc@box:~$ ldd /usr/local/lib/kde4/plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_mplayer.so linux-gate.so.1 => (0xb7791000) libphonon.so.4 => /usr/local/lib/libphonon.so.4 (0xb76d5000) libQtCore.so.4 => /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0xb73bb000) libQtGui.so.4 => /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 (0xb6915000) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb6851000) libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb682a000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb6813000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb66d0000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb66b8000) libQtDBus.so.4 => /usr/local/lib/libQtDBus.so.4 (0xb663c000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb662a000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb6626000) libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0xb6622000) librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0xb6619000) libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0xb651c000) libpng12.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0xb64fe000) libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0xb6499000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0xb6492000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xb647e000) libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0xb6476000) libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0xb6447000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb643a000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb631f000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7792000) libQtXml.so.4 => /usr/local/lib/libQtXml.so.4 (0xb62dc000) libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0xb62d8000) libexpat.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0xb62b7000) libxcb.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0xb62a2000) libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb629f000) libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb629a000) tc@box:~$
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 11, 2011, 06:03:34 PM: Still I have no sound :(

I install oss, ossxmix, and oss_alsa and all is well. Then install flash and all is great with browser and minitube. Until a reboot, then we have no sound at all :(
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 11, 2011, 07:02:22 PM: I can't believe this!! For some compatibility reason I had installed oss_alsa (can't remember for which program this was for) however after removal of oss_alsa minitube, firefox and flash all appear to function harmoniously with sound :)

(http://db.tt/lEzXZ8M)

A fresh install tc 3.8 with these extensions set to OnBoot

ossxmix
flash10
firefox
minitube 1.5
phonon-backend-mplayer

Thanks for fixing minitube and it's dependencies (still don't know why there is so much conflict with other deps..)

now to fix deadbeef & xine-xvesa... Also vlc which really messes with the apple cart!
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: cast-fish on August 11, 2011, 09:37:52 PM: yes

i guesse different sound cards behave different

i have a USB sondcard here.

I have a fresh tcl 3.9

onboot apps

oss
oss_alsa
minitube
phonon mplayer back end

it seems to work fine.

I also managed to understand how to use xzine Xvesa movie player. Which plays
movies perfect out of the box here. To open and video stream off the web took
a little thinking with xzine. It's certainly not obvious

V
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 11, 2011, 10:49:54 PM: Interesting..

I found that runniing ossxmix alone will also load oss.tcz & oss-modules-2.6.33.3-tinycore.tcz as they are dependencies of ossxmix.tcz Which are all that it seems to require (for me)
Plus it's nice to have the mixer available for easy sound adjustment :)

Besides oss_alsa is for running alsa apps on oss drivers right? making this extension unnecessary as minitube + mplayer runs on either alsa or oss (oss being the preferred), For two of my systems installing oss_alsa would break the sound for firefox + flash so it was removed pronto. ymmv though

It's good to see minitube working finally :)
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: cast-fish on August 12, 2011, 02:23:32 AM: ye coreplayer

uh...i use OSS_ALSA extension here because it's the only way for
me to get a global volume control for my USB soundcard. There is no
other way only using sliders in "youtube" and stuff but sometimes an
app does not give me a volume slider (mpg123)

Currently i am trying to work out how to use things like Pulseaudio
so that many APPS can see my soundcard all at the same time. Currently
OSS and my USB soudcard only seems to talk to 1 app at a time.

I never succedded in getting Alsa working with my USB soundcard.

AS for minitube it's works fine here...yes. It is a good app really and worth
having.

I especially like Xzine movie player now....since i worked out how to get it
to open Internet video streams. It works right out of the box.

Vince.
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 12, 2011, 03:59:11 AM: looks like we all have specific hardware compatibility issue to deal with, sorry...

I'm just so grateful for minitube and to all those who put in the effort to make it happen, because I tell you it brings life to my machines YAY!! I could have done without going through the removal of old incompatible dependencies though.. Now that the mess is all cleaned up even my oldest pc (which oss doesn't support) runs alsa and the new minitube like a champ :)

Thanks Guys
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 12, 2011, 06:18:22 PM: Quote from: cast-fish on August 12, 2011, 02:23:32 AM
Currently i am trying to work out how to use things like Pulseaudio
so that many APPS can see my soundcard all at the same time. Currently
OSS and my USB soudcard only seems to talk to 1 app at a time.

using a tc3.8.1 VM with oss on a Windows host I can open multiple media apps and all play sound simultaneously

Am assuming you must have a hardware or conflicting extensions issue..
;)
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: cast-fish on August 12, 2011, 07:44:52 PM: coreplayer 2

Hello

yes, i certainly can't have multiple apps all seeing the soundcard at the same time (with oss)

my soundcard is USB and does not require any drivers for windows or Linux. For example,
if i plug the usb soundcard into other distros it is just found by alsaconf and correctly configured
with the alsa driver

in tinycore, alsoconf does not find my usb sound card at all. I started trying to read how to get
alsa going with soundcards but if alsaconf does not find the card then it can become tricky to
arrange.

So i never continued down the alsa road. I just use OSS and i am limited to ONE app seeing
the soundcard at any one time. Ssay youtube in firefox will grab the sound card so even if
no video is playing you can't then open "mpg123" player and listen to an mp3 song. It says
it can't lock onto the soundcard.

This soundcard works perfectly under alsa on other distros. Multiple sound sources are no
problem.....i just never got this USB soundcard working with alsa in tinycore

V
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 13, 2011, 01:25:43 PM: Quote
my soundcard is USB and does not require any drivers for windows or Linux
Well I think this is confusing since the device always needs a driver, just that a driver is already included for the device in larger OS's Alsa is a driver for example, and in alsa you can select the sound card to use, so I'm wondering here if this is a notebook and the USB is a second sound card which adds to the confusion??
Title: Re: minitube 1.5
Post by: cast-fish on August 13, 2011, 09:11:14 PM: hello

oh right, i see

So my usb soundcard finds standard drivers in win32 and in Linux it uses either alsa driver
or OSS or others.

Yes, you are right, it is a notebook that already contains a soundchip internally. The headphone socket
is poor on the notebook. The headphone socket of the notebook is a bad connection so at the very
best you can just about get audible sounds coming from the notebook speakers by having headphones
half-plugged into the headphone socket. The sound from the speakers is poor and it's not possible to get
any sound in the headphones.

So i use a USB soundcard plugged in. This works real good but is not ideal in TCL because alsa
is not driving it...(just OSS)

I know it is complex to arrange soundcards by blacklisting and other stuff. Positions in the list
of devices as 1 or 0 or whatever. I never got the USB soundcard working with alsa. Yet the usb soundcard is
found perfectly by alsaconf in other similar distros? (i notice that other similar distros have a menu entry called "multiple sound cards")

It would be nice to have the usb soundcard fully working in tcl. This is because i could then do some music
work on the laptop and even look into the realtime kernel and jack.

Vince.