Tiny Core Linux
Tiny Core Base => TCB Q&A Forum => Topic started by: -tri- on June 27, 2011, 06:38:43 AM
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Hi
I upgraded to TC 3.7.1 an found there is not file manager at all (FileMgr, neither fluff).
I tried burn .iso live cd as well, but with same result.
It is true there is not file manager in new TC?
I think file manager is most important thing in operating system.
Why it is cut off???
I would rather miss some tools like screen shot or wallpaper
not FM.
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I believe the general consensus was that fluff was getting a little too large to be in the base.
Fluff and many other file managers are available as extensions just a download away.
..and the cli works well in the base :)
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Thank you for answer.
Fluff is too big? I think it has some kB in app browser!
Terminal is great instrument, but less convenient. (situation when booting base from usb, without conection).
Thanx
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Hello
you can just install a "file manager" from the apps database.
I installed "Rox Filer" which works fine.
Vince.
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Thank you.
I know. I'll try it. I usualy use MC, but Rox could be fine too.
Thanx
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Fluff has 64 kB. It doesn't look like too big files.
There must be something more why it was fired...
;-]
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It wasn't fired.
It is installable using AppBrowser, just like any other extension,
It is just no longer included in base as the development cycle did not match up with the
Tiny Core development cycle, it is getting bigger, and it is one choice among many.
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All right.
I want only say it's a shame that fluff isn`t included in the base.
Fluff seems to me quite small nice and useful.
If somebody new booting TC base, he could be confused and asking "how can I find and see my files?".
I know how terminal (appbrowser) use, but somebody (beginner) not...
thanx
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I agree. I liked having Fluff in the TCB. But if the powers-that-be are determined to ditch Fluff, they should include some other file manager. Perhaps MC--though it is less intuitive to use than Fluff, I think.
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Midnight Comander > 2MB.
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You make a good case for Fluff, Gerald. 2 MB versus -- what? -- 150KB.
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Fluff has 64 kB. It doesn't look like too big files.
The latest Fluff was actually about 120KB plus a little documentation and was considered big compared to other things in Tiny Core base. I've prototyped another smaller, simpler file manager "DirWin" that is about 55KB. Perhaps that one will be considered for inclusion in TC base some day. Check the "Programming" subforum for more discussion on this.
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to: MikeLockmoore
Thank You for your work. I am looking forward to "DirWin" and also hope it will be included in TC base soon!
thanx
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I wasn't trying to make a case for any specific file manager.
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I also support the general feeling of frustration that there is no basic file manager in the base. This is a usefull tool when you are trying to set things up or generally navigate around the system.
I know that you can load a file manager from the repository, but that is not the point. You need the base to be basically usefull before connecting to the internet. I do not see what the drama is with size. If the base was 12MB these days rather than 10+MB it wouldn't mater a toss to anyone, I wouldn't have thought.
Please bring back a basic file manager soon.
Peter.
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When showing Files for Xprogs in AppBrowser Fluff is still there. Please update.
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While I agree that it is really really handy to have a file manager in base, the arguments against it are valid:
*) its just not necessary
*) it would be an open door for feature creep or even, dare I say it, bloat.
*) The choice of a file manager tends to be very subjective with regard to minimum required features
So any file manager that makes it into TC base will likely have to be a very special product indeed.
The size issue, while no biggy for me personally, is a valid concern. Will TC always stay between ten and eleven MB? Maybe not. But every addition to the base should be viewed with a critical eye, with focus on keeping TC lean and simple. There will always be those who say, "Oh, size doesn't matter"... ;)
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Can't go wrong with XFE
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as a new user of tiny core, i was also looking for the file manager.
' oh, where is the file manager' but when i remember the name
'tiny core' then i tried to understand, because maybe this might bloat
the system just like most of the OS out there :)
so i fell back to aterm, then for a little
bit of convenience downloaded the tree and later i found that i
can make use of the editor as my file manager if only just to navigate
around the system, saves me a lot of typing on the terminal. i would just
need to type '/' when ever i change directory.
anyway a file manager is really handy, i agree.
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I'm a month into using TC which I use daily, and still haven't installed a file manager. I haven't felt the need for it. Using Aterm has forced me to relearn the CL that I have got away from. I've spent a fair amount of time configuring Aterm so its very usable. I can find anything I need with 'slocate', and with an updated and aliased .ashrc file, routine typing and file manipulation is quick and easy. Will I have a file manager? Probably, but I dont see it anytime soon. Having too much fun computing with CL
Plus theres always the cool factor when someones looking over my shoulder ... "What the heck are you doing??!"
I really like the lean and mean 'base' of TC .... if I want it then I'll download it. Dont give me stuff that will bloat the underpowered PII300Mhz-256MB RAM laptop I'm using. TC base runs great on this machine .... :-)
Just offering a pro-Aterm response to a healthy thread ...... ;D