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Title: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 26, 2011, 08:24:47 PM
i've been trying for some hours to use Xorg-7.5 extention on my laptop, but it seem too dificult for me to fix up issues if the intel driver... help me using the 1280x800 resolution i want! ;D

Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: Juanito on June 26, 2011, 11:19:53 PM
Probably the easiest thing to do is to google on the "name of your graphics chipset" and "xorg.conf"
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 26, 2011, 11:53:28 PM
already tried, got nothing functional...

btw, with i got this message while trying stuff out:

"i915 not found in modules.dep"

is there any way i can compile my own i915 driver and use it in my TC system?

Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: Juanito on June 26, 2011, 11:55:44 PM
The i915 driver is in Xorg-7.5-3d.tcz
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 26, 2011, 11:57:05 PM
leeme check this out ^^

thanks
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 27, 2011, 02:26:32 AM
Xorg 7.5 3g .dep keeps bugging my computer as i`m try o download it  ???

it`s a kind of "ACPI conflict" then black screen.
i`m giving up installing Xorg 3d for now

i`m using vesa @ 1024x768

 :-\
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: Juanito on June 27, 2011, 02:36:48 AM
Xorg 7.5 3g .dep keeps bugging my computer as i`m try o download it

What error do you see exactly?

Maybe you could use the command "tce-load -wil Xorg-7.5-3d" from a terminal prompt and post any errors you get here.
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 27, 2011, 02:41:18 AM
the big issue it that the screen fades away... so, no possibility of print screening, i think  :(
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: Juanito on June 27, 2011, 02:42:53 AM
eh?

Maybe you could re-boot with the boot code "text" and enter the command I mentioned?
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 27, 2011, 03:10:20 AM
damn it! screen gone black anyway!

i read something like SMB, and region, a MAC-like address (XX:XX:XX:XX:XX, not with just x`s of course) , but nothing as clear as i can figure out to tell you... sorry

 :D

long ago, in 3.2 version i managed to install these extensions in this same laptop, but i could not leave text-mode as soon as i tried to intall 3d Xorg so i uninstalled TC. I can only think this OS getting even more hostile to my machine as time goes by...
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: Juanito on June 27, 2011, 03:27:51 AM
So, if I understand correctly, you were able to boot without problems using the boot code "text"?

Were you able to download the extension using "tce-load -wil Xorg-7.5-3d" successfully? From memory, this will download the extension but not load it.

Note the following:

1. With an intel graphics chipset, I doubt that xorg will start without a valid xorg.conf - i.e. it will not work "config-less"

2. With an intel graphics chipset, it is quite possible that Xvesa will only work at 640x480x16 or 1024x768x16 without resorting to 915resolution or similar.

3. Loading the Xorg-7.5-3d extension will cause the i915 kernel driver to load and will switch the kernel graphics mode. If this works correctly, you will see the fonts in text mode get much smaller. If it does not work, you will quite probably see the kinds of errors you describe.

Given the above, I would suggest you start by booting using the "text" code and then run xsetup.sh to set resolution to 640x480x16 and "startx", if this works, try 1024x768x16. If both work, you could quite possibly get 915resolution to give you the native resolution for your screen.
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 27, 2011, 09:40:14 AM
yep, i did boot correcty then i used

"tce-load -wil Xorg-7.5-3d"

it downloads "Xorg-7.5.dep" but soon after this, screen goes black, with no apparent reason, just showing a line describing an "ACPI violation" for 3 seconds berofe fading away

-=-=-

i really don`t know how to use 915resolution, but as i tried "915resolution -l" it showed me a list of possible graphic mode. guess what - no widescreen, just 1024x768 and 1280x1024.

what can i try next?

-=-

OFFTOPIC: hey, how do i get a br-abnt keyboard layout in TC? i just forgot the steps ;)

Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 27, 2011, 09:44:23 AM
IMHO, i think that as soon as i download the 3d dep file, some awkward configuration is triggered. It was supposed to change my resolution or to do some pre-processing, but it simply its not really working
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 27, 2011, 09:47:26 AM
is there any script for checking the integrity (MD5sum) of my apps?
double-checking looking for broken .tcz`s might be useful for me now
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: Juanito on June 27, 2011, 09:49:59 AM
it downloads "Xorg-7.5.dep" but soon after this, screen goes black, with no apparent reason, just showing a line describing an "ACPI violation" for 3 seconds berofe fading away
This quite possibly means the i915 driver will not work with your hardware, so let's leave this aside for the moment.

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what can i try next?
did you try the following and did it work:

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I would suggest you start by booting using the "text" code and then run xsetup.sh to set resolution to 640x480x16 and "startx", if this works, try 1024x768x16. If both work, you could quite possibly get 915resolution to give you the native resolution for your screen.
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: Rich on June 27, 2011, 09:58:03 AM
Hi guiapq
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it downloads "Xorg-7.5.dep" but soon after this, screen goes black, with no apparent reason, just showing a line describing an "ACPI violation" for 3 seconds berofe fading away

Sorry for butting in Juanito, but do you think he should also add  noacpi   to his boot command?
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: Juanito on June 27, 2011, 10:00:52 AM
No problem, this is partly why I was asking if Xvesa worked at low resolutions..
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 27, 2011, 11:36:17 AM
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I would suggest you start by booting using the "text" code and then run xsetup.sh to set resolution to 640x480x16 and "startx", if this works, try 1024x768x16. If both work, you could quite possibly get 915resolution to give you the native resolution for your screen.

worked for both


Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 27, 2011, 11:40:10 AM
should i try the noacpi bootcode?
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: Rich on June 27, 2011, 11:53:05 AM
Hi guiapq
Try booting in text mode with  noacpi  and then as Juanito suggested try:
tce-load -wil Xorg-7.5-3d
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 27, 2011, 12:32:01 PM
this is it:

even with noacpi, ACPI still coflicts with SMBI,

but, i have figured out that it only happens when i have not downloaded yet the Xorg deps. system continues on and responding to ctrl+alt+del (forcing reboot)

so, i'll try to install Xorg anyway by letting my computer on even after screen is out.
wish me luck!

major problems are still with intel drivers, so the ACPI thing isn't the only thing hapening... unhappily :-\
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 27, 2011, 12:35:29 PM
any possible workarounds for the case of incompatibility between i915 and my hardware?
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: Juanito on June 27, 2011, 02:50:49 PM
any possible workarounds for the case of incompatibility between i915 and my hardware?

You might be able to use 915resolution with it - see the info file
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 29, 2011, 10:45:34 AM
how do i use "xvesa=" bootcode to activate this extension

it`s "xvesa=1280x800" or "xvesa=915resolution mode 1280 800 16"

help me a last time!
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 29, 2011, 11:04:37 AM
Code: [Select]
$ sudo 915resolution 50 1280 800
it really worked! thanks! but i still have to try out right the Xvesa= parameter, just for automating things...
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: Rich on June 29, 2011, 12:40:32 PM
Hi guiapq
Try   xvesa=1280x800x16
Title: Re: Acer TravelMate 2480 - does not support Xorg?
Post by: guiapq on June 29, 2011, 03:40:04 PM
whoa! i notice u guys did some very serious job in placing very carefully quite crucial scripts in this distro!

how would i know that 915resolution hacking would be directly done soon after the loading of the extensions?! it`s kinda a "klugde-ish" thing but it worked as a clock for me!

this makes TC distro number one for me xD. Congratulations, u`ve really got another level from the DSL primordies. thanks too!

X resolution issue dead. Alsaconf presistency and brazilian keyboards to go!