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yoshi314:

--- Quote from: roberts on May 27, 2011, 12:59:07 AM ---I see no one has done a fresh installation of Tiny Core on a pristine XP system,
What is requested is a simple installation for newbies but what is attempted is not!

--- End quote ---
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/win32-loader

this would be a good way for major newbies. it would require some tweaking for TC, though (download links, construction of boot parameters, etc).

what it does, is fetch kernel+initrd, and grub4dos. plug grub4dos into windows' boot.ini file and generate a bootloader config. and that's pretty much it.

so the system retains windows' MBR while having extra boot menu option for linux.

newbody:
Maro, I guess this part of your posts apply to my situation then.


--- Quote ---I can confirm that a sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 did not work (but also did not fail, as $?==0). Nevertheless umount /mnt/hda1 && sudo mount /mnt/hda1 worked instead and lead to a writable NTFS.
--- End quote ---

What complicates it is that I don't know things on your level.

It is true that I am practically like a newbie in that I don't know such things like
 umount /mnt/hda1 && sudo mount /mnt/hda1

despite me have seen such CLI codes since 1986 or at least 1989 when I was member of a Computer club and the Chairman there was a Unix fan and tried to teach us such things. I failed at it and still fails at it. No brain for such. Still I have booted some 75 different Linux systems on USB and some 40 or so on frugal install on NTFS so I am very used to be able to just boot things and not let a script force a new mbr version on me that I don't want to happen.

So as usual the latest version was not meant to work for me. I did try to ask that though.

So I need to do what you tested there and see if it works on my set up too.

What I still fail to get is the difference between the ntfs-3g.tcz and the ntfs-3g.gz and the initrd code extra load there of the  ntfs-3g.gz

You took that away. Does that mean it instead make use of the already installed  ntfs-3g.tcz you had or something? How else would it work oh it is already installed in the kernel?

mocore:

--- Quote from: yoshi314 on May 27, 2011, 04:11:03 AM ---
what it does, is fetch kernel+initrd, and grub4dos. plug grub4dos into windows' boot.ini file and generate a bootloader config. and that's pretty much it.

so the system retains windows' MBR while having extra boot menu option for linux.

--- End quote ---

im surprised this method is not all ready in use
 as it seems (to me) the simple way to boot from m$ formated partition ,
 with least modification to existing system .  

i have not had chance to test 3.7rc
but from this thread it sounds like grub4dos is replacing ntldr with grldr .  

 more info / examples on ntldr > boot.ini > grldr method  yoshi314 talked of .

above example from "grub4dos guide"


newbody:

--- Quote from: Rich on May 26, 2011, 09:31:02 PM ---Hi newbody
You need to install  ntfs-3g.tcz  


--- End quote ---
thanks Rich for caring about a total noob.

Yes and no.
RobertS writes here http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=9762.msg53256#msg53256

--- Quote ---Essentially what is missing in those who are backing into an existing grub4dos setup is:

1. loadpack tc-grub4dos.gz
2. copy /tmp/ntfs-3g.gz to /tce/boot directory along with tinycore.gz and bzImage
3, edit grub4dos menu.lst with the entry for tinycore to be as follows.

title Tiny Core Linux
find --set-root /tce/boot/bzImage
kernel /tce/boot/bzImage quiet tce=hda1
initrd /tce/boot/tinycore.gz /tce/boot/ntfs-3g.gz

You must specify your tce directory via the tce= boot option, as auto-scanning ntfs partitions is not
supported in the base.

Do not also install the ntfs-3g.tcz extension its function is replaced by the script auto installed ntfs-3g.gz

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The problem is that it is on a too high tech for me to grasp exactly what to do.

this part is totally new to me

initrd /tce/boot/tinycore.gz /tce/boot/ntfs-3g.gz

What I also need to do is to get how to follow this part
--- Quote ---
1. loadpack tc-grub4dos.gz
2. copy /tmp/ntfs-3g.gz to /tce/boot directory along with tinycore.gz and bzImage
--- End quote ---

that loadpack is that some kind of extracting program then that unpack the gz and I need to sift out the ntfs-3g.gz part and move it to /boot

Loadpack seems to be something introduced in RC1 by RobertS he writes

--- Quote ---* New GUI loadpack to load, when required, Starter Pack after boot.
--- End quote ---

So in my case I then have to practice on using that program then.

roberts:
loadpack = "Use Control Panel -> Load Starter Pack to load tc-grub4dos.gz"

Hopefully you know how to find and edit your existing menu.lst and copy a file.

Oh, the joys of backing into an existing grub4dos installation.

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