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Offline Juanito

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   append initrd=/boot/tinycore.gz usbwait=20 quiet

That should be "waitusb=20" and not "usbwait=20"

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Will try - thank you.

Thus far tried Debian Biz Card, feather, arch, tight kernel that has no VGA output but controls ports to run a rad car stereo from the steering wheel - might come in handy later - and a fat-boy BackTrack 4-R2 - asked a friend to make a CD and will try it later - then there was the Puppy test, and 3 or 4 other small packages - just to see if ANY OF THEM - using Netbootin - worked. Nope.

Knoppix and I are chatting daily.

Flattened the small poker chip 1 gig USB - ran Netbootin against Tinycore.iso - takes a few seconds - ka-poof - bread done - certainly not the 1 - 2 hour event I have spent doing some of these suckers. That part of TC has great promise.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2011, 03:42:02 PM by grandma »
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Tried Linux Live as it promised a "VIRTUAL BOX" - nope - and Oracle package crashed.

Found a great partition expand/contract - MiniTool Partition - free for windows -  to make an EXT2, EXT3 etc. Linux drive right on a C: drive.

Want to do this in Linux after I get this working a bit better.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2011, 03:43:56 PM by grandma »
~ Luv Grandma
"When children of all nations
play in the sandbox together
all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
you'll hold near to your heart
until long after you're my age.

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grub is a bootloader, operating system independent.

Default shell when opening a terminal is ash.
"Software gets slower faster than hardware gets faster." Niklaus Wirth - A Plea for Lean Software (1995)

Offline grandma

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Tried PLOP sort of worked as dual boot - but not well.

« Last Edit: April 29, 2011, 03:44:36 PM by grandma »
~ Luv Grandma
"When children of all nations
play in the sandbox together
all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
you'll hold near to your heart
until long after you're my age.

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If your old laptop can boot from a floppy, you might be interested in this:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=354.0

10+ Years Contributing to Linux Open Source Projects.

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no floppy

but I did wrestle GRUB to give me a dual boot today - whoo hooo - and managed to get 4 partitions installed:

1. Boot - W2K (shrunk from owning the whole drive)

2. FAT - about a gig

3. LINUX SWAP - about 300 meg

4. EXT2 - about 15 gig

Then loaded TC in #2 - no syslinux required, modified boot.ini, and wrote a Grub script that ran through all:

(hd0,0)
(hd0,1)
(hd0,2)

0 - 8 etc. until I got a TC boot - wooo hooo baby! Rock and roll.

Almost ready to migrate.

BUT - I can't find that kewl post you sent - early on - about the first files to grab.

I have Perl - and DOSFSTOOLS - so I can do a lot at this point with nothing else. I have a big migration ahead and don't really need to get online to load up the EX2 partition with all my Windows data.

THEN I need to get TC working with the RTL and also do a full dump to an external USB HD.

Then flatten the Windows area completely and ka-boom - done with that 30 year MS nightmare.



~ Luv Grandma
"When children of all nations
play in the sandbox together
all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
you'll hold near to your heart
until long after you're my age.

Offline grandma

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Ok,

a) Have Tiny Core so it boots on C: drive consistently with GRUB - windows default - TC works

b) not sure why screen is black - no logo - just menu at bottom - tried posting wall paper - which works - but doesn't save

c) not sure why backup /hdx/tce etc. works now on shut down - already filled in - that was very frustrating before - kept getting error messages

d) haven't retested perl

e) rather I need to focus on INTERNET now. Found the suggested links Robert posted earlier.


Grab wireless-tools.tcz,

(I ASSUME THIS IS compat-wireless-2.6.37-4.tar.xz - correct?)

ndiswrapper.tcz,
(I assume this is ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-1.56.tar.gz - and not the COMPILE ndiswrapper, correct?)

Ok, ndiswrapper is a large pile of source - not sure where the TCZ file is.
Ok, found info, list, md5 and dep (real pain cutting and pasting these manually - I can write a script to automatically generate these files for downloads if you folks need a little perl CGI backend for users),
but the words NDISWRAPPER - is not an href download - just the word.

So - where is the actual file?

and perl5.tcz

(already got Perl thanks to Juanito - sent me the link - and it worked fine when tested - a week or so ago)


0. Boot Tiny Core with nodhcp boot paramater.

(have no idea how to do that - will scan forums)

As user root:

1. mount Windows drive

(windows drive is NTFS - TC can't get to it - will look for NTFS tool you mentioned)

2. /usr/local/sbin/ndiswrapper -i /path/to/your/windows/netcard.INF

(I assume I type this at a terminal prompt? would be better if I can load this on boot)

3. /sbin/modprobe ndiswrapper

(another terminal prompt?)

Check results with
4. iwconfig

(will test methods/parameters at link Lee gave me - http://linux.die.net/man/8/iwconfig - which looks like it may be ideal)

f) also need to find out how to "feed" network the IP address and other info - Lee's link may handle that, and

g) once I understand how to install RTL8187 drivers, I can automate that so when someone comes to TC their first time it, their system will have already fetched the required wifi drivers - if required - and put their favorite wall paper up - if desired.

The gray is fine - for some - but for most it is (and was to 1) - not the best way to retain "customers" or users. Folks like to see their art on their page.

h) Then there is the Firefox issue - a good browser - but folks are going to want that up front, loaded and functional by the time they get a Tiny Core boot - or again - you will lose them if they have to fish around and figure out how to obtain that - most can't or won't.

Beyond these issues - since 90% of users need PCs to go online, everything else, like the word processors or other aps, can be loaded "later" when they have time to play with it.

So - any ideas on how to install the RTL drivers would be appreciated, and any thoughts on a simple way to ensure the "wall paper image" I keep saving - that never saves - would also help - and a clear method of putting a few files in optional or somewhere so they are guaranteed to be part of the environment at boot would be a huge help.

I did try dmesg |more and saw an enormous amount of "RECOGNIZED" and no real errors that I saw, including nailing the CPU temp, finding all 4 ports on my USB hub, naming the drives, TCP protocols, all that good stuff, though a few things did go to "default" because it either wasn't supported or some other minor problem. 99% of it looked good - from my limited knowledge of what it was doing as it booted up.

Anyone home? Thank you.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2011, 03:45:24 PM by grandma »
~ Luv Grandma
"When children of all nations
play in the sandbox together
all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
you'll hold near to your heart
until long after you're my age.

Offline Juanito

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Grab wireless-tools.tcz,

(I ASSUME THIS IS compat-wireless-2.6.37-4.tar.xz - correct?)
No - it is wireless_tools-29 compiled for tinycore and made into a loop mountable extension. So, once you've downloaded it, you use the apps browser "local" button to load it

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ndiswrapper.tcz,
(I assume this is ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-1.56.tar.gz - and not the COMPILE ndiswrapper, correct?)
No, this is ndiswrapper-1.56 compiled for tinycore and made into a loop mount able extension.

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Ok, ndiswrapper is a large pile of source - not sure where the TCZ file is.
Ok, found info, list, md5 and dep (real pain cutting and pasting these manually
All of the tcz files are in the same place as perl5.tcz was, so you just need to substitute ndiswrapper.tcz for perl5.tcz in the previous url I gave you and it will download. I would however suggest going to a public library or friend's house with a wired internet connection, which will most likely work "out of the box" and downloading everything you need using the apps browser.

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(windows drive is NTFS - TC can't get to it - will look for NTFS tool you mentioned)
use the filesystems-2.6.33.3-tinycore extension

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2. /usr/local/sbin/ndiswrapper -i /path/to/your/windows/netcard.INF

(I assume I type this at a terminal prompt? would be better if I can load this on boot)
Yes, it is a terminal command. You can add it to /opt/bootlocal.sh to load on boot.

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So - any ideas on how to install the RTL drivers would be appreciated
Over and above the twice I already explained this?

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Improving boot for windows users -


I asked a friend - total 100% non-tech - to try it because "it is so fast" - she loved that fast boot, but in 10 seconds after the boot she asked "Ethernet?" What am I supposed to type in here? Call me when this thing can be used." - and reformatted her USB stick and put TC away.

She had:

a) boot to usb
b) cable ethernet
c) working windows PC hot shot machine
etc.

Instructions that lead to

a) C source - which (ahem) no non-tech will compile or

b) a page with the info, list, md5 and dep files - but no link to get the .tcz and md5 etc. altogether

...scares people away.

I will look at making an easier install. Need help figuring out how to PRECONFIGURE ETHERNET so first boot - it goes online - browser loaded - go to google etc. - right out of the box.

« Last Edit: April 29, 2011, 03:48:35 PM by grandma »
~ Luv Grandma
"When children of all nations
play in the sandbox together
all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
you'll hold near to your heart
until long after you're my age.

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dmesg - aha - a key - thank you.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2011, 03:49:09 PM by grandma »
~ Luv Grandma
"When children of all nations
play in the sandbox together
all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
you'll hold near to your heart
until long after you're my age.

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Perhaps this "format", loosely taken from my days "back when" I debugged software for firms, will help.

FATAL ERRORS: 0
WARNINGS: 0
INCONSISTENCIES: 3

INSTALLATION:

Fresh from downloaded ISO - no added files
Version 3.6rc2

a) empty G: drive (DOS/W2K) formatted FAT32 as the second Primary partion on C: (first primary partition with W2K) 4.3GB - no syslinux or other hidden files


b) After copying/expanding ISO files with ISODISK utility, renamed isolinux folder to syslinux

c) renamed isolinux.bin to syslinux.bin

d) renamed isolinux.cfg to syslinux.cfg

e) No other files installed, folders created or any changes to cfg

f) Boot using Grub4DOS, (grub.exe and grldr), called via menu.lst with the entry:

title TC1
root=(hd0,1)
kernel /boot/bzImage tinycore
initrd /boot/tinycore.gz
boot

Summary of errors:
==================

(not all inclusive, as reboot required and these were "entered" by memory)

1. Screen loads to black screen first and subsequent times: no logo or F2/F3 etc. options.

Suggest tutorial added to FAQs, "Booting with Grub", includes command line examples (5 - 10 - 20 or more), rather than parameters - both preferred.

2. Set Mouse with Control Panel, to reduce erratic/fast movement - lower to 2, apply/exit and closing control panel.

Mouse settings work as indicated for a period of 1 - 3 minutes, and then before rebooting or leaving session, mouse returns to fast/erratic movement.

Going back into control panel, find mouse settings back at higher number.

3. Set backup with control panel. Field is blank, not recognizing the original boot drive (G:/hda1). Attempts to put in hda1 result in error messages.

4. Mount hda1 with Mount on bottom menu. Successful.

(Should this be mounted by default since it was the BOOT drive?)

5. Open Ap Mgr. Set has a /tmp/ line, rather than recognizing the boot drive.

6. Open File Mgr. No /tce/optional folder.

a) Create /tce from root

b) Create /tce/optional

But clicking on the /tce folder does not show the /optional folder in left sidebar.

c) Tried closing and reopening File Mgr. Still no /optional folder in left sidebar.

d) Right file area shows /optional folder under /tce - Click that - enters /optional folder.

7. Save/backup issues:

a) Mount SBA2 - USB stick - go to background image jpg - copy to /opt/backgrounds

b) Attempt to reboot with backup. On reboot no settings saved.

8. Network issue (other PC connected to functional ethernet cable under Windows Vista):

a) Installed Tiny Core to USB - booted.

b) Control Panel - Networks - fields blank.


Summary of suggestions:
=======================

1. Defaults such as backup drive, folders and wallpaper etc. should persist by default starting with the first boot, and mouse settings and other "changes" by user should also persist by default, especially during a session.

2. Any folders not created to provide for persistence should be created by the first boot, such as /tce/optional.

3. Network should be polled prior to user opening control panel, so IP address and gateways are established and filled in.

4. If no ethernet cable detected, and wifi equipment IS detected, and Windows (NTLDR) is detected, and GRUB is detected via command line parameter, and FAT32 detected as BOOT drive, indicating a partition likely readable by Windows, then:

a) First boot should fetch wifi device ROM ID/Mfg/Model while in TC, or include NTFS.TZ files and scan Windows system 32 / driver folder for devices recognized or suggest different ISO with "Fetch Windows First" process, which can identify hardware on the machine, fetch drivers under Windows, loading the appropriate folders on the TC drive ... notifying User if required to "execute this .bat or .pl or .exe file from Windows to load wifi drivers for this PC".

b) After user reboots and enters Windows, then executes the exe, bat or other Windows fetch process, at end of downloads, load files to TC drive, and request user reboot and test, or load and test new Linux/TC drivers, then ...

c) With all wifi installations, include an audit or testing utility to verify PING and HTTP access functional, and

5. Always automatically load Firefox on first install until everything is stable or at least prompt user with a Y/N choice. Prompts requiring users to type unfamiliar phrases such as /mnt/hda1 are likely to have a severe, (greater than 80% fall out) negative impact on growth of customer base.

6. If any wifi hardware or other devices are not recognized should be added to TC database during Windows fetch process, then tallied and automatically prioritized for inclusion by techs based on demand/prevalance in user community. A screen to collect user email would allow automatic email notification when their missing driver has been tested and is available, although by that time recovering the new user who was unable to get online may be difficult.

7. During first boot and if possible, boots 1 - 10 (or more until turned off), TC should prompt user during shutdown to take a survey of problems, comments or suggestions. Anytime a suggestion is addressed with a change, user should receive feedback "Your idea was used and we'd like to get your thoughts on the implementation." By including user feedback during development, users become very loyal to a product line, feeling they are "part of a family that cares about their ideas and preferences". This causes users to act as "marketing agents" for the product and team, by giving them "bragging rights".

8. SKYPE chat sessions with techs should be available - by appointment - either for a fee or in groups (free), so 5 - 10 new users in a group could spend 15 - 60 minutes with an Admin who could walk them all through getting their initial boot to function correctly.

9. Busy Box and other utilities that "keep the package small" are not only difficult for many (most) users, but are likely to cause loss of customer base, especially if acting erratic, even when its user error. Lack of drop down select boxes and other "high resolution graphics" and "automated methods" of configuring the system, can all be installed WITHOUT increasing either the size of the installation, the core install package or total size of the typical user auto-configuration and overall installed application byte count by more than 50K - 100K.

Impact of changes:
==================

If the cost to "dress up" and "automate" Tiny Core is only 50K - 100K, and ...
the time to effect these costs is 1 - 2 weeks, and ...
if this eliminates 90% of the problems that 90% of new users migrating from Windows experience, and ...
if this means that the 90% who current fail to continue their migration, do in fact continue, and ...
if 100 users currently try TC per week today, and 90% cancel their migration due to these and other issues, then ...
new user base, which currently grows at 10 new users per week, will instead, grow at a rate of 81 new users per week with these changes,
therefore increasing new users by a factor of 8.1 to 1 compared to current conditions.

Additionally, if 10 new users per week currently continue to use Tiny Core, and ...
if 90% of these users require 5 - 10 hours of responding to forum inquiries, or ...
9 x 8 = 72 hours of support time per week, and ...
if the figure grows to 81 new users per week, and ...
if the automation reduces support requests by 90%, then ...
support hours per week will be 72 x .9 x 8.1 = 58 hours =
a 14% reduction in support hours required, and
an 800% increase in new users.

~ Luv Grandma
"When children of all nations
play in the sandbox together
all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
you'll hold near to your heart
until long after you're my age.

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OK, so in an attempt to get your wifi working, you need to download the following extensions:

wireless-2.6.33.3-tinycore.tcz http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/tinycorelinux/3.x/tcz/wireless-2.6.33.3-tinycore.tcz
wireless_tools.tcz http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/tinycorelinux/3.x/tcz/wireless_tools.tcz

..and store them in your /tce/optional folder, eg /mnt/hda1/tce/optional. If you don't have such a a folder, you can create it under linux like this:
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$ sudo mkdir -p /mnt/hda1/tce/optional
$ sudo chown -R tc:staff /mnt/hda1/tce

Once you've downloaded the extensions, you can load them in tinycore like this:
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$ tce-load -i wireless-2.6.33.3-tinycore.tcz
$ tce-load -i wireless_tools.tcz
This assume your /tce folder is recognised, if not you can use "tce-load -i /path-to-file/extension_name"

Now we need to check if the module for your hardware loaded automatically like this:
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$lsmodIf it loaded automatically, you should see an entry for "rtl8187', the module for your hardware.

If the module did not load automatically, then you can load it like this:
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$ sudo modprobe rtl8187
Once the module is loaded, you need to look at the system messages to see what interface has been assigned to the wireless connection (wlan0, eth1, etc) and whether any firmware is required. You can do it like this:
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dmesg | tail -25..and post the result so we can figure out what to do next.

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Didn't work.

Kidding.

Thank you. I see something in here - you will probably see more than I do.

I used the > pipe (prayed it worked - yipper) and here is what I did and the results:

1. lsmod returned nothing first time.

2. Figured I'd try to tce-load files first.

3. cd to drive and folder - repeated lsmod - nothing

4. Did the tce-load -i

5. lsmod returned with rtl detected.

6. Rebooted and cleared folder of all backups - reloaded all tce files (from my tinkering) - fresh boot - removed perl etc. and only 2 wireless files in optional. Remember I have access as a G:NTFS drive so I can drop stuff in there easily.

7. Ran lsmod.

This time returned the first piped output screen below - but no rtl info - that's expected. Wonder why first lsmod returned nothing - may be cfg file (all files) were reloaded fresh and cfg had been corrupted by my tinkering - evidenced with first pass.

8. Ran tce-load on both wireless files.

9. Ran lsmod - again rtl files show.

Here is the first lsmod (that produced "something"), followed by second lsmod.

Juanito - I think you hit a little gold here...maybe.

First lsmod (before tce-load)
====================

Module                  Size  Used by    Not tainted
vfat                    5596  1
fat                    30220  1 vfat
squashfs               14728  0
pcmcia                 12756  0
scsi_wait_scan           276  0
ppdev                   3732  0
video                  12712  0
parport_pc             18656  0
backlight               1632  1 video
output                   724  1 video
parport                18560  2 ppdev,parport_pc
yenta_socket           13432  2
ramzswap               10240  1
rsrc_nonstatic          5780  1 yenta_socket
ac                      1696  0
battery                 6028  0
3c59x                  22084  0
pcmcia_core            17332  3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
loop                    8068  0

Second lsmod (after tce-load)
=====================

Module                  Size  Used by    Not tainted
rtl8187                22900  0
mac80211               87580  1 rtl8187
cfg80211               73276  2 rtl8187,mac80211
eeprom_93cx6             704  1 rtl8187
vfat                    5596  1
fat                    30220  1 vfat
squashfs               14728  2
pcmcia                 12756  0
scsi_wait_scan           276  0
ppdev                   3732  0
video                  12712  0
parport_pc             18656  0
backlight               1632  1 video
output                   724  1 video
parport                18560  2 ppdev,parport_pc
yenta_socket           13432  2
ramzswap               10240  1
rsrc_nonstatic          5780  1 yenta_socket
ac                      1696  0
battery                 6028  0
3c59x                  22084  0
pcmcia_core            17332  3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
loop                    8068  4

All attempts of tce-load returned OK

Here are folders before and after

BEFORE (fresh install)
===============

Volume in drive G is HOME
Volume Serial Number is 084E-BBD6

Directory of G:\
04/08/2011  02:15p      <DIR>          boot
04/18/2011  07:00p      <DIR>          tce
              0 File(s)              0 bytes

Directory of G:\boot
04/18/2011  06:42p      <DIR>          .
04/18/2011  06:42p      <DIR>          ..
05/12/2010  06:43p           2,294,848 bzImage
04/08/2011  02:16p           8,406,359 tinycore.gz
10/26/2010  12:26p      <DIR>          syslinux
              2 File(s)     10,701,207 bytes

Directory of G:\boot\syslinux
04/18/2011  06:42p      <DIR>          .
04/18/2011  06:42p      <DIR>          ..
04/08/2011  02:16p               2,048 boot.cat
11/14/2010  03:47p                 233 boot.msg
11/04/2010  11:39a                 918 f2
11/04/2010  11:39a               1,085 f3
11/04/2010  11:44a               1,045 f4
04/08/2011  11:47a              14,336 syslinux.bin
01/20/2011  10:22p                 175 syslinux.cfg
              7 File(s)         19,840 bytes

Directory of G:\tce
04/18/2011  06:49p      <DIR>          .
04/18/2011  06:49p      <DIR>          ..
04/19/2011  03:31p      <DIR>          optional
04/19/2011  03:38p      <DIR>          uaps
              0 File(s)              0 bytes

Directory of G:\tce\optional
04/18/2011  06:49p      <DIR>          .
04/18/2011  06:49p      <DIR>          ..
04/19/2011  03:13p           1,224,704 wireless-2.6.33.3-tinycore.tcz
04/19/2011  03:13p              86,016 wireless_tools.tcz
              2 File(s)      1,310,720 bytes

Directory of G:\tce\uaps
04/19/2011  03:17p      <DIR>          .
04/19/2011  03:17p      <DIR>          ..
04/19/2011  03:17p               1,495 help.txt
              1 File(s)          1,495 bytes
    Total Files Listed:
             12 File(s)     12,033,262 bytes
             15 Dir(s)   4,273,106,944 bytes free


AFTER (shutdown)
=============

Volume in drive G is HOME
Volume Serial Number is 084E-BBD6

Directory of G:\
04/08/2011  02:15p      <DIR>          boot
04/19/2011  03:49p      <DIR>          tce
              0 File(s)              0 bytes

Directory of G:\boot
04/18/2011  06:42p      <DIR>          .
04/18/2011  06:42p      <DIR>          ..
05/12/2010  06:43p           2,294,848 bzImage
04/08/2011  02:16p           8,406,359 tinycore.gz
10/26/2010  12:26p      <DIR>          syslinux
              2 File(s)     10,701,207 bytes

Directory of G:\boot\syslinux
04/18/2011  06:42p      <DIR>          .
04/18/2011  06:42p      <DIR>          ..
04/08/2011  02:16p               2,048 boot.cat
11/14/2010  03:47p                 233 boot.msg
11/04/2010  11:39a                 918 f2
11/04/2010  11:39a               1,085 f3
11/04/2010  11:44a               1,045 f4
04/08/2011  11:47a              14,336 syslinux.bin
01/20/2011  10:22p                 175 syslinux.cfg
              7 File(s)         19,840 bytes

Directory of G:\tce
04/18/2011  06:49p      <DIR>          .
04/18/2011  06:49p      <DIR>          ..
04/19/2011  03:31p      <DIR>          optional
04/19/2011  03:45p                   0 xwbar.lst
04/19/2011  03:49p               3,141 mydata.tgz
04/19/2011  03:48p      <DIR>          uaps
              2 File(s)          3,141 bytes

Directory of G:\tce\optional
04/18/2011  06:49p      <DIR>          .
04/18/2011  06:49p      <DIR>          ..
04/19/2011  03:13p           1,224,704 wireless-2.6.33.3-tinycore.tcz
04/19/2011  03:13p              86,016 wireless_tools.tcz
              2 File(s)      1,310,720 bytes

Directory of G:\tce\uaps
04/19/2011  03:17p      <DIR>          .
04/19/2011  03:17p      <DIR>          ..
04/19/2011  03:17p               1,495 help.txt
04/19/2011  03:46p                 756 step1.txt
04/19/2011  03:48p                 918 step2.txt
              3 File(s)          3,169 bytes
    Total Files Listed:
             16 File(s)     12,038,077 bytes
             15 Dir(s)   4,273,094,656 bytes free

Does any of this help?

Thank you - I think you hit a bit of gold.



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play in the sandbox together
all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
you'll hold near to your heart
until long after you're my age.

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Also found this - the netrtuw.inf file

BOF (this line is my entry)
;; Windows .INF file for NDIS driver
;;
;; Realtek RTL8187 Wireless USB 2.0 Adapter
;;
;; Copyright (C) 2008 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
;;
;; this release is primarily for WHQL test.

[Version]
Signature   = "$Chicago$"
Compatible   = 1
Class      = Net
ClassGUID   = {4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
Provider   = %Realtek%
CatalogFile.NT   = netrtuw.cat      ;; for WHQL certified
DriverVer   = 06/13/2008,5.1313.0613.2008

[Manufacturer]
%Realtek% = Realtek,NTx86

[ControlFlags]
ExcludeFromSelect = USB\VID_0BDA&PID_8187&REV_0100
ExcludeFromSelect = USB\VID_0769&PID_11F2&REV_0100

;;****************************************************************************
;; IDs for 2K/XP
;;****************************************************************************
[Realtek.NTx86]
%RTL8187.DeviceDesc% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_0BDA&PID_8187&REV_0100
%RTL8187.DeviceDesc% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_13D1&PID_ABE6&REV_0100 ;
%RTL8187.DeviceDesc% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_1371&PID_9401&REV_0100 ;
%RTL8187.DeviceDesc% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_114B&PID_0150&REV_0100 ;
%RTL8187.DeviceDesc% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_18E8&PID_6232&REV_0100 ;
%RTL8187.DeviceDesc% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_0789&PID_010C&REV_0100 ;

%RTL8187.DeviceDesc.Surecom% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_0769&PID_11F2&REV_0100 ;
%RTL8187.DeviceDesc.Sitecom% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_0DF6&PID_000D&REV_0100 ;

;;****************************************************************************
;; IDs for 98SE/ME
;;****************************************************************************
[Realtek]
%RTL8187.DeviceDesc% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_0BDA&PID_8187&REV_0100
%RTL8187.DeviceDesc% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_13D1&PID_ABE6&REV_0100 ;
%RTL8187.DeviceDesc% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_1371&PID_9401&REV_0100 ;
%RTL8187.DeviceDesc% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_114B&PID_0150&REV_0100 ;
%RTL8187.DeviceDesc% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_18E8&PID_6232&REV_0100 ;
%RTL8187.DeviceDesc% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_0789&PID_010C&REV_0100 ;

%RTL8187.DeviceDesc.Surecom% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_0769&PID_11F2&REV_0100 ;
%RTL8187.DeviceDesc.Sitecom% = RTL8187.ndi,USB\VID_0DF6&PID_000D&REV_0100 ;

; by Owen on 04/12/04
;;****************************************************************************
;; Windows 98
;;****************************************************************************
[RTL8187.ndi]
DriverVer       = 06/13/2008,1313
AddReg = RTL8187.Reg, RTL8187.common.reg
CopyFiles       = RTL8187.CopyFiles98
;
;;****************************************************************************
;; Windows XP
;;****************************************************************************
[RTL8187.ndi.NT]
AddReg      = RTL8187.NT.Reg, RTL8187.common.reg
Characteristics = 0x84
BusType         = 15
CopyFiles       = RTL8187.CopyFiles


[RTL8187.ndi.NT.Services]
AddService = RTLWUSB, 2, rtsnt.Service, RTL8187.EventLog

; by Owen on 04/12/04
;*******************************************************************************
; Windows 98
;*******************************************************************************
[RTL8187.Reg]
HKR, Ndi, DeviceID, 0, USB\VID_0BDA&PID_8187&REV_0100

HKR,Ndi,CardType,,"PNP"

HKR, , DriverDesc, 0, "Realtek RTL8187 Wireless USB 2.0 Adapter"
HKR, , DevLoader,,*ndis,*ntkern,*ndis
HKR, , DeviceVxDs,,RTL8187.sys
HKR, , EnumPropPages, 0, netdi.dll, EnumPropPages

; NDIS Info
HKR,NDIS,MajorNdisVersion,1,03
HKR,NDIS,MinorNdisVersion,1,0a
HKR,NDIS,LogDriverName,,RTLWUSB

; Interfaces
HKR,Ndi\Interfaces,DefLower,,"ethernet"
HKR,Ndi\Interfaces,LowerRange,,"ethernet"
HKR,Ndi\Interfaces,DefUpper,,"ndis3"
HKR,Ndi\Interfaces,UpperRange,,"ndis3"
;
;*******************************************************************************
; RTL8187 common paramters
;*******************************************************************************
[RTL8187.common.reg]
HKR,Ndi\params\SSID,            ParamDesc,  0, %SSID_STR%
HKR,Ndi\params\SSID,            type,       0, "edit"
HKR,Ndi\params\SSID,            default,    0, "ANY"
HKR,Ndi\params\SSID,            LimitText,  0, "32"
HKR,defaults,SSID,0,"ANY"
HKR,,SSID,0,"ANY"

HKR,Ndi\params\Channel,       ParamDesc,  0, %CHANNEL_STR%
HKR,Ndi\params\Channel,       type,       0, "int"
HKR,Ndi\params\Channel,       default,    0, "1"
HKR,Ndi\params\Channel,       Min,        0, "1"
HKR,Ndi\params\Channel,       Max,        0, "14"
HKR,Ndi\params\Channel,       Step,       0, "1"
HKR,Ndi\params\Channel,       Base,       0, "10"
HKR,defaults,Channel,0,"1"
HKR,,Channel,0,"1"

HKR,Ndi\params\NetworkType,        ParamDesc,  0, %NETWORK_TYPE_STR%
HKR,Ndi\params\NetworkType,        type,       0, "enum"
HKR,Ndi\params\NetworkType,        default,    0, "1"
HKR,Ndi\params\NetworkType\enum,   "0",        0, "Ad Hoc"
HKR,Ndi\params\NetworkType\enum,   "1",        0, "Infrastructure"
HKR,Ndi\params\NetworkType\enum,   "2",        0, "Auto select"
HKR,defaults,NetworkType,0,"1"
HKR,,NetworkType,0,"1"

HKR,Ndi\params\LedCtrl,        ParamDesc,  0, %LED_CONTROL_STR%
HKR,Ndi\params\LedCtrl,        type,       0, "enum"
HKR,Ndi\params\LedCtrl,        default,    0, "1"
HKR,Ndi\params\LedCtrl\enum,   "0",        0, "Disable"
HKR,Ndi\params\LedCtrl\enum,   "1",        0, "Enable"
HKR,defaults,LedCtrl,0,"1"
HKR,,LedCtrl,0,"1"

HKR,NDI\params\PowerSaveMode,      ParamDesc,  0, %POWER_SAVE_STR%
HKR,NDI\params\PowerSaveMode,      type,       0, "enum"
HKR,Ndi\params\PowerSaveMode,      default,    0, "0"
HKR,NDI\params\PowerSaveMode\enum, "0",        0, "CAM"
HKR,NDI\params\PowerSaveMode\enum, "1",        0, "MAX_PSP"
HKR,NDI\params\PowerSaveMode\enum, "2",        0, "Fast_PSP"
HKR,defaults,PowerSaveMode,0,"0"
HKR,,PowerSaveMode,0,"0"

HKR,Ndi\params\WiFi11bIbss,        ParamDesc,  0, %WIFI_IBSS_STR%
HKR,Ndi\params\WiFi11bIbss,        type,       0, "enum"
HKR,Ndi\params\WiFi11bIbss,        default,    0, "0"
HKR,Ndi\params\WiFi11bIbss\enum,   "0",        0, "Disable"
HKR,Ndi\params\WiFi11bIbss\enum,   "1",        0, "Enable"
HKR,defaults,WiFi11bIbss,0,"0"
HKR,,WiFi11bIbss,0,"0"

HKR,Ndi\params\bRateAdaptive,        ParamDesc,  0, %RATE_ADAPTIVE_STR%
HKR,Ndi\params\bRateAdaptive,        type,       0, "enum"
HKR,Ndi\params\bRateAdaptive,        default,    0, "1"
HKR,Ndi\params\bRateAdaptive\enum,   "0",        0, "Disable"
HKR,Ndi\params\bRateAdaptive\enum,   "1",        0, "Enable"
HKR,defaults,bRateAdaptive,0,"1"
HKR,,bRateAdaptive,0,"1"

HKR,Ndi\params\MaxPktSize, ParamDesc, 0, %MAX_PKTSIZE_STR%
HKR,Ndi\params\MaxPktSize, type, 0, "int"
HKR,Ndi\params\MaxPktSize, default, 0, "1514"
HKR,Ndi\params\MaxPktSize, min, 0, "256"
HKR,Ndi\params\MaxPktSize, max, 0, "2304"
HKR,Ndi\params\MaxPktSize, step, 0, "1"
HKR,defaults,MaxPktSize, 0, "1514"
HKR,,MaxPktSize, 0, "1514"

HKR,Ndi\params\ChannelPlan, ParamDesc, 0, %CHANNEL_PLAN_STR%
HKR,Ndi\params\ChannelPlan, type, 0, "enum"
HKR,Ndi\params\ChannelPlan, default, 0, "15"
HKR,Ndi\params\ChannelPlan\enum, "0", 0, "FCC"
HKR,Ndi\params\ChannelPlan\enum, "1", 0, "IC"
HKR,Ndi\params\ChannelPlan\enum, "2", 0, "ETSI"
HKR,Ndi\params\ChannelPlan\enum, "3", 0, "Spain"
HKR,Ndi\params\ChannelPlan\enum, "4", 0, "France"
HKR,Ndi\params\ChannelPlan\enum, "5", 0, "MKK"
HKR,Ndi\params\ChannelPlan\enum, "6", 0, "MKK1"
HKR,Ndi\params\ChannelPlan\enum, "7", 0, "Israel"
HKR,Ndi\params\ChannelPlan\enum, "8", 0, "TELEC"
HKR,Ndi\params\ChannelPlan\enum, "15", 0, "DOMAIN_FROM_EEPROM"
HKR,defaults,ChannelPlan, 0, "15"
HKR,,ChannelPlan, 0, "15"

HKR,Ndi\params\ShortRetryLimit, ParamDesc, 0, %SHORT_RETRY_LIMIT%
HKR,Ndi\params\ShortRetryLimit, default, 0, "7"
HKR,Ndi\params\ShortRetryLimit, type, 0, "int"
HKR,Ndi\params\ShortRetryLimit, min, 0, "0"
HKR,Ndi\params\ShortRetryLimit, max, 0, "255"
HKR,Ndi\params\ShortRetryLimit, step, 0, "1"
HKR,defaults,ShortRetryLimit, 0, "7"
HKR,,ShortRetryLimit, 0, "7"

HKR,Ndi\params\LongRetryLimit, ParamDesc, 0, %LONG_RETRY_LIMIT%
HKR,Ndi\params\LongRetryLimit, default, 0, "7"
HKR,Ndi\params\LongRetryLimit, type, 0, "int"
HKR,Ndi\params\LongRetryLimit, min, 0, "0"
HKR,Ndi\params\LongRetryLimit, max, 0, "255"
HKR,Ndi\params\LongRetryLimit, step, 0, "1"
HKR,defaults,LongRetryLimit, 0, "7"
HKR,,LongRetryLimit, 0, "7"

HKR,Ndi\params\FragThresh, ParamDesc, 0, %FRAGTHRESH_STR%
HKR,Ndi\params\FragThresh, default, 0, "2346"
HKR,Ndi\params\FragThresh, type, 0, "int"
HKR,Ndi\params\FragThresh, min, 0, "256"
HKR,Ndi\params\FragThresh, max, 0, "2346"
HKR,Ndi\params\FragThresh, step, 0, "1"
HKR,defaults,FragThresh, 0, "2346"
HKR,,FragThresh, 0, "2346"

HKR,Ndi\params\RTSThresh, ParamDesc, 0, %RTSTHRESH_STR%
HKR,Ndi\params\RTSThresh, default, 0, "2347"
HKR,Ndi\params\RTSThresh, type, 0, "int"
HKR,Ndi\params\RTSThresh, min, 0, "0"
HKR,Ndi\params\RTSThresh, max, 0, "2347"
HKR,Ndi\params\RTSThresh, step, 0, "1"
HKR,defaults,RTSThresh, 0, "2347"
HKR,,RTSThresh, 0, "2347"

HKR,Ndi\params\PSPXlinkMode,        ParamDesc,  0, %PSP_XLINK_STR%
HKR,Ndi\params\PSPXlinkMode,        type,       0, "enum"
HKR,Ndi\params\PSPXlinkMode,        default,    0, "0"
HKR,Ndi\params\PSPXlinkMode\enum,   "0",        0, "Disable"
HKR,Ndi\params\PSPXlinkMode\enum,   "1",        0, "Enable"
HKR,defaults,PSPXlinkMode,0,"0"
HKR,,PSPXlinkMode,0,"0"

HKR,,DefaultKeyID,,"0"
HKR,,DefaultKey0,,""
HKR,,DefaultKey1,,""
HKR,,DefaultKey2,,""
HKR,,DefaultKey3,,""

; by Owen on 04/12/04
[RTL8187.CopyFiles98]
RTL8187.sys,,,2
;
;*******************************************************************************
; Windows XP
;*******************************************************************************
[RTL8187.NT.Reg]
HKR, Ndi\Interfaces,    UpperRange, 0, "ndis5,mdcwifi,wifipro"
HKR, Ndi\Interfaces,    LowerRange, 0, "ethernet"
HKR, Ndi,               Service,    0, "RTLWUSB"

[rtsnt.Service]
DisplayName    = %RTL8187.DeviceDesc.DispName%
ServiceType    = 1      ; %SERVICE_KERNEL_DRIVER%
StartType      = 3      ; %SERRVICE_DEMAND_START%
ErrorControl   = 1      ; %SERRVICE_ERROR_NORMAL%
ServiceBinary  = %12%\RTL8187.sys
LoadOrderGroup = NDIS

[RTL8187.EventLog]
AddReg = RTL8187.AddEventLog.reg

[RTL8187.AddEventLog.reg]
HKR, , EventMessageFile, 0x00020000, "%%SystemRoot%%\System32\netevent.dll"
HKR, , TypesSupported  , 0x00010001, 7

[RTL8187.CopyFiles]
RTL8187.sys,,,2

;*******************************************************************************
; Destination Directory
;*******************************************************************************
[DestinationDirs]
; by Owen on 04/12/04
RTL8187.CopyFiles98   = 11
;
RTL8187.CopyFiles   = 12

[SourceDisksNames]
1=%DISKNAME%,,,

[SourceDisksFiles]
RTL8187.sys = 1

;*******************************************************************************
; Strings
;*******************************************************************************
[Strings]
Realtek          = "Realtek Semiconductor Corp."
SSID_STR         = "SSID"
CHANNEL_STR         = "Channel"
NETWORK_TYPE_STR   = "Network Type"
LED_CONTROL_STR      = "LED Control"
POWER_SAVE_STR      = "Power Save Mode"
WIFI_IBSS_STR      = "IBSS Default 11b Mode"
RATE_ADAPTIVE_STR   = "Rate Adaptive"
MAX_PKTSIZE_STR      = "Maximum Packet Size"
CHANNEL_PLAN_STR   = "Channel Plan"
SHORT_RETRY_LIMIT   = "Short Retry Limit"
LONG_RETRY_LIMIT   = "Long Retry Limit"
FRAGTHRESH_STR      = "Fragmentation Threshold"
RTSTHRESH_STR      = "RTS Threshold"
PSP_XLINK_STR      = "PSP XLink Mode"

;; Source disk name
DISKNAME               = "Realtek RTL8187 Wireless 802.11b/g 54Mbps USB 2.0 Network Adapter Driver Disk"
RTL8187.DeviceDesc         = "Realtek RTL8187 Wireless 802.11b/g 54Mbps USB 2.0 Network Adapter"
RTL8187.DeviceDesc.DispName   = "Realtek RTL8187 Wireless 802.11b/g 54Mbps USB 2.0 Network Adapter"
RTL8187.DeviceDesc.Surecom   = "SURECOM EP-9001-g 802.11g 54M WLAN USB Adapter"
RTL8187.DeviceDesc.Sitecom   = "SITECOM WL-168 Wireless Network USB Adapter 54g"
EOF (this line is my entry)

Do I also need to compile the source files I received when I downloaded the LINUX driver?

~ Luv Grandma
"When children of all nations
play in the sandbox together
all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
you'll hold near to your heart
until long after you're my age.