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Offline tinypoodle

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Re: Fail to set up Swedish kmap persistent.
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2011, 06:54:34 AM »
This PPR? Using tce=sdb1 or similar code? I should read up some FAQ or wiki on that one then?
How I can activate it? But maybe TCL 2.7 and 3.4 are so different from each other that they fail to use from each others tcz files?  I saw some files that simply failed to get used. Don't remember what name but nothing did happen when I tried to activate them. Maybe they work only in one year old versions then?

Most of your questions would be answered in following all the links from TC main page.
Particularly kernel modules of 2.x vs. 3.x are not compatible.
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Re: Fail to set up Swedish kmap persistent.
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2011, 02:24:25 PM »
They use different kernels, so packages that provide or depend on kernel modules are not compatible between the versions.
Just use the correct repository.

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Re: Fail to set up Swedish kmap persistent.
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2011, 02:46:14 PM »
@Guy: In reply #6 one of his boot settings reads "tce=sdb1/boot/TinyCore home=tce".
   Does that trailing "=tce" belong there?

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Re: Fail to set up Swedish kmap persistent.
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2011, 03:32:55 PM »
@Guy: In reply #6 one of his boot settings reads "tce=sdb1/boot/TinyCore home=tce".
   Does that trailing "=tce" belong there?

Good catch!
Even though I had replied as to the "home=" as being wrong when using a non UNIX filesystem, I had totally overlooked how wrong "home=tce" would be under any circumstances.   :P
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Re: Fail to set up Swedish kmap persistent.
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2011, 04:33:05 PM »
Guys thanks indeed for catchin my sloppy copy of others menu entries me not realizing it would only work on ext2 or ext3.

So I will try to edit these part.

I use Backup/Restore now as the way to save changes and it works very well so that is a good thing.

Suppose I make a new boot entry in grub4dos boot2 and have same official TCL iso files in tehre on the HDD NTFS and then make a Backup/Restore and use onBoot to download things and so on.

Would that not work. Or would it not even boot on NTFS?  Sorry my ADHD makes me a very poor reader of texts. I get easily distracted and forget what I just was reading.
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Re: Fail to set up Swedish kmap persistent.
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2011, 04:57:21 PM »
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Re: Fail to set up Swedish kmap persistent.
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2011, 06:13:53 AM »
Thanks tinypoodle, yes it is if one are on that level.

Took me a long time to get what you say and I am not 100% sure still.
But I have done practical experiments and you are right. I am way too slow to get things. :)

So now I know.

1. TCL do boot on NTFS but in reality it is grub4dos that boot the TCL OS in RAM and all that happens is in RAM and get lost when I do reboot.

That was what took me so long to realize.

2. BackUp and Restore can save on Fat32 and Ext2 etc but not on NTFS.
A TCE can not be made pesistent on NTFS and not on Fat32 either only on Ext2.

3. Linux distros like Slax can use a save file that internally have ext2 but that can be saved due to them loopmounted in NTFS but for to get that one need NTFS-3g already going in TCL?????

Have I got it right now?


4. Puppy have Vbox and Vbox can create a virtual install of TCL on Ext2 formatted virtual HDD within the sandbox of Vbox.

Could I then use Puppy and Vbox on Puppy to get to learn TCL using the ext2 formatted HDD in Vbox?

Could I there learn how to use home=tce home=hda1 or what the Manual says one should use?

Hope I am a bit more structured this post so you guys don't lose trust in me. I truly want to learn how to use TCL.

Why else would I spend 12 hours testing and testing until I learned it did not work the way I thought.
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Re: Fail to set up Swedish kmap persistent.
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2011, 06:52:51 AM »
Getting closer... 
Thanks tinypoodle, yes it is if one are on that level.

Took me a long time to get what you say and I am not 100% sure still.
But I have done practical experiments and you are right. I am way too slow to get things. :)

So now I know.

1. TCL do boot on NTFS but in reality it is grub4dos that boot the TCL OS in RAM and all that happens is in RAM and get lost when I do reboot.

That was what took me so long to realize.

2. BackUp and Restore can save on Fat32 and Ext2 etc but not on NTFS.
A TCE can not be made pesistent on NTFS and not on Fat32 either only on Ext2.

3. Linux distros like Slax can use a save file that internally have ext2 but that can be saved due to them loopmounted in NTFS but for to get that one need NTFS-3g already going in TCL?????

Have I got it right now?


4. Puppy have Vbox and Vbox can create a virtual install of TCL on Ext2 formatted virtual HDD within the sandbox of Vbox.

Could I then use Puppy and Vbox on Puppy to get to learn TCL using the ext2 formatted HDD in Vbox?

Could I there learn how to use home=tce home=hda1 or what the Manual says one should use?

Hope I am a bit more structured this post so you guys don't lose trust in me. I truly want to learn how to use TCL.

Why else would I spend 12 hours testing and testing until I learned it did not work the way I thought.

Getting closer...   ;)

1. Booting from and achieving persistence on any other filesystem than FAT* or ext* (incl. NTFS) is not supported by default, but might be subject to - unofficial - modifications (e.g. remaster).

2. For any mode of persistence including scattered files - with exception from tce= and backup/restore - a linux filesystem is required.

For any questions regarding virtualization please prefer to peruse the "Tiny Core on Virtual Machines" subforum.
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