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Offline PIRAT507

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The ultimate Micro/TinyCore edition
« on: October 16, 2010, 11:52:25 PM »
as I see it:
will boot, and within one second has screenpicture.
Within 3 seconds has sound.
Like a linux-based (embedded) mp3 player.
So it is possible.

Offline hiro

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Re: The ultimate Micro/TinyCore edition
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2010, 08:24:46 AM »
Mine does have sound within 2 seconds and X in 3. (without the bootloader)

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Re: The ultimate Micro/TinyCore edition
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2010, 09:47:51 AM »
Mine does have sound within 2 seconds and X in 3. (without the bootloader)

CPU? boot medium?
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Re: The ultimate Micro/TinyCore edition
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2010, 05:07:18 PM »
Intel Celeron, 700Mhz, booting from a 32Mb DOM. (T-online S100)
I haven't measured it, this is just what it feels like. Sorry.

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Re: The ultimate Micro/TinyCore edition
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2010, 10:07:12 AM »
I'd hardly use the term "ultimate edition" for any OS based on sole criterium of boot time, and particularly not for any Linux distro.

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Re: The ultimate Micro/TinyCore edition
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2010, 09:39:17 AM »
Sorry, I checked more carefully now and actually it takes 12 seconds from GRUB to prompt on this system...
it says loading the ramdisk(10 seconds) + init script (udev, loading the extensions, 2 seconds)=12 seconds

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Re: The ultimate Micro/TinyCore edition
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2010, 10:09:43 AM »
Huh, no secret.
I'm using a stock install with only a few extensions loaded...
Are 12 seconds really that great?

By the way, I just grabbed into 230 Volts while testing. Went through my arm which now has difficulties to type  >:(

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Re: The ultimate Micro/TinyCore edition
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2010, 10:20:43 AM »
Might be possible with some kind of union root dir. But I haven't yet had the need for it.

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Re: The ultimate Micro/TinyCore edition
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2010, 10:45:58 AM »
If it wouldn't load to RAM, it would load as fast as possible.

... and operate much slower.   ::)
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Re: The ultimate Micro/TinyCore edition
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2010, 10:51:11 AM »
... but the operation would be slow.

Don't think so.
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Re: The ultimate Micro/TinyCore edition
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2010, 11:01:21 AM »
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=4744.msg25114#msg25114

Fairly hw-dependent, really. That's not even a new laptop, it's from 2006.

@ running in RAM:
The effect is great even on current hw, but to really see it in action try it on hw with a slow cpu and slow hd.
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Re: The ultimate Micro/TinyCore edition
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2010, 12:02:24 PM »
Wow, this thread got unreadable after paul panzer deleted all his comments.
So I'll have to quote everything I see from now on oO

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Re: The ultimate Micro/TinyCore edition
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2010, 12:08:46 PM »
@ hiro - that kind of voltage will probably not decrease  the boot time.  ;)
I hope your arm is OK?

More seriously,  I'm not so  impressed with my boot times lately - maybe just a combination of me being accustomed to the quickness and some drag from the extensions I load.  I don't have a decent clock near my computer lately so I have no objective boot time measurements, but does tc3.x boot a little slower than 2.x?

No, I haven't tried ondemand at all.  (Wow!  I just mistyped ondamned about ten times in a row.  Spell check says its still not a word.)
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Re: The ultimate Micro/TinyCore edition
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2010, 12:24:53 PM »
Lee, I would look inside of mydata.tgz and see if unneeded data is being saved and restored.

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Re: The ultimate Micro/TinyCore edition
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2010, 06:53:16 PM »
Not only using OnDemand, but also looking at what times take to backup will improve boot and shutdown times.

Look at:  Control Panel->System Stats->bigHomeFiles for candidates to either remove, relocate, or make into extension(s).  CLI users can use bigHomeFiles.sh
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