K3B

[meo]

Hi!

Have tried out k3b for a while with the new 3.0-series of tinycore but I can't make it work. It seems that the extension needs some adjustments to work with the 3.0-series. It wouldn't hurt if it could be updated at the same time but "as is" is fine for me. Thanks!

Have fun making extensions for tinycore,
meo

[Jason W]

Hey,
It would help to know more specifics on what kind of problem you are having.  k3b starts up fine here on 3.x with Xorg 7.5.

[meo]

Hi Jason!

When I download k3b "ondemand" it downloads Xorg 7.4 as a dependency and I think that is where the problem lies. I'm not sure but will test more.

Have fun,
meo

[Juanito]

the 3.x repo dep files have recently been updated to change Xorg-7.4 to Xorg-7.5 and Xlibs_support to Xorg-7.5-lib

Perhaps your local dep files do not reflect this change?

[curaga]

I only updated -dev and -lib, the main 7.x deps were left to the maintainers to test and change.

[meo]

Hi again!

I "purged" the system from k3b and its dependencies and installed Xorg-7.5 before reinstalling k3b. K3b showed up on the OnDemand menu so I clicked on it. There was some activity but k3b didn't start. I restarted the system and tried to install k3b OnDemand and then I got a message saying that Xorg-7.4 was missing. So apparently there is some dependency problems that won't allow k3b to start. Hope that you can help me to sort that out.

Have fun guys,
meo

[Jason W]

I updated the dep file for kdelibs-3.5.10 to use Xorg-7.5, perhaps a local dep file or one on a mirror has not been changed.

[meo]

Hi it's me again!

First i just manually changed the dep-file in question and tried to make k3b run but it didn't. After that I did an extensive "repurge" of my extensions on this system and made a reinstall. It seems that k3b installs but there are neither an icon or a menu entry so I issued the k3b command in a terminal. All started up hopefully but then a message came that k3b probably had crashed (well since I didn't see any visual evidence of it on the screen I suppose it had crashed). I think there is an incompatibility between the selfconfiguring Xorg-7.5 (I have experienced similar things with the Xorg-7.4 before so I kept a copy of the older version that didn't configure itself since I didn't experience any problems with that one. Sorry to say it seems to have disappeared while cleaning out space eating things from my hard drive). I have an 8+ years old laptop with a neomagic graphic chip and that one doesn't seem to get along very well with the new Xorg-7.5. So if you have any suggestion of what I can do to make k3b work I'm all ears (or maybe rather "all eyes").

Have fun,
meo

[Jason W]

k3b does not have a menu or icon at this time.  Also, it takes a while to start up especially the first time in a session, so make sure you are not killing the terminal window too soon unless you are starting with "k3b &". 

I have not investigated to see if k3b will run with less of Xorg than the full Xorg-7.5.tcz, the same with the kdelibs.  Perhaps the dependencies can be trimmed some, I will see when I get time.  But assuming it requires Xorg, then it needs to use Xorg-7.5 since 7.4 is being phased out. 

Perhaps when I get home tonight I can remove the Xorg dependency, as kdelibs will probably make do with Xorg-lib (kdelibs was made before Xlibs_support was available), and k3b will probably need Xorg-bin.   Of course, full Xorg should only be listed in a dep file when an extension just absolutely requires it to function, so I will see if it can do without it.

[Jason W]

Sure enough, by adding Xorg-7.5-lib.tcz to the kdelibs-3.5.10.tcz.dep and adding Xorg-7.5-bin.tcz to k3b.tcz.dep, k3b is working now without needing Xorg running.  Dep files are updated.

[meo]

Hi again Jason!

Thanks a lot for trying to help me out. Unfortunately I still can't get k3b to work. The last 5 lines of the output in the terminal were:

DCOPServer : slotterminate() -> sending terminateKDE signal
klauncher : Klauncher::process ---> terminateKDE
kdeinit: terminate KDE
DCOP: unregister 'klauncher'
DCOPServer : slotsuicide() -> exit

Thanks again for your effort to help me out Jason.

Have fun continuing to make TinyCore better,
meo

[Jason W]

Ok, let me test some more and see where the issue is.

[Jason W]

K3b works when loaded by itself through the appbrowser on a "base norestore" boot.  I added a needed fontconfig.tcz to the kdelibs dep file now that Xorg is not there, but I don't see any crashing when loading the program.

[meo]

Hi Jason!

I have made a frugal install of tinycore 3.0 alpha 7 and populated it with the extensions I normally use. Decided to give k3b a chans but it resulted in a crash and the last lines (if not all) in the terminal, from which I tried to start it, was just the same and nothing more happened. So I don't know how to make it work on my old laptop. I have a pretty special setup though that might cause the problem but I don't think so. I have a 32-boot options setup with grub as boot loader even if I've hacked it almost beyond recognition. Thanks anyway for your help!

Have fun continuing your fine work with tinycore,
meo

[meo]

Hi again!

Just did a test with k3b from a live cd with the bootcodes base, norestore and xsetup. I installed k3b and tried to start it from a terminal but just the same thing happened as before. So what can be done? Any suggestions anyone?

Have fun using tinycore and "having it your way",
meo