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Offline Black Sliver

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Waiting cursor / incomplete startup with PPI
« on: September 09, 2009, 09:16:02 AM »
Hi!

I've installed TC to an IDE flash drive by simply formatting and copying the files from the .iso (and installing grub from Ubuntu) and it's working as non-persistent, but if I add local=hda1 to the end of the kernel line, it seems as it does not start up completely. When the GUI is running, the window borders are missing, the click-on-desktop menu is not working, the menu that should be in the right, bottom corner is not there and the cursor turns into a waiting 'X' while on the desktop.

Any ideas what causes this?

Offline Guy

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Re: Waiting cursor / incomplete startup with PPI
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2009, 09:28:43 AM »
Try

tce=hda1 home=hda1

This will give you PPR mode, and be less likely to cause problems.
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Offline Black Sliver

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Re: Waiting cursor / incomplete startup with PPI
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2009, 09:35:09 AM »
But that mode doesn't allow direct access to the file system?
E.g. compiling stuff, installing with some random installers, etc.

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Re: Waiting cursor / incomplete startup with PPI
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2009, 09:47:02 AM »
You could try

waitusb=5

Maybe with the extra files it is not getting time to fully load.
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Offline Black Sliver

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Re: Waiting cursor / incomplete startup with PPI
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2009, 09:52:40 AM »
Does not matter at all.
Even with waitusb=5 and an empty directory, it's not working :(

Anyone running TC in PPI mode without troubles? Maybe it's working with an older version?

Offline Black Sliver

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Re: Waiting cursor / incomplete startup with PPI
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2009, 10:42:57 AM »
Seems to work with Tiny Core 2.2. And the boot up process is way faster with PPI with python installed :)
What's about the packages? Are the new ones available for the old core version?

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Re: Waiting cursor / incomplete startup with PPI
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2009, 10:46:23 AM »
But that mode doesn't allow direct access to the file system?
E.g. compiling stuff, installing with some random installers, etc.
PPI only provides only a persistent  /usr/local and not the entire filesystem.
So unless random installers only install to /usr/local/ there may not be much advantage.

Your described issue sounds like no window manager detected.

What does the command version display?
What does echo $DESKTOP display?
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Offline Black Sliver

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Re: Waiting cursor / incomplete startup with PPI
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2009, 05:43:24 PM »
Hi

Thanks for your reply! I've moved from 2.3 to 2.2, so I can't provide the two outputs you asked for. The main problem with PPR mode is the boot time after installing additional stuff. E.g. python takes a couple of secs to unpack but it's very important for quick scripts.

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PPI only provides only a persistent  /usr/local and not the entire filesystem.
Is there any way to change this? At least the /usr/share stuff would be important too.

While trying puppy and a few other distributions, I ran into another HUGE problem:
I've built a custom touchscreen interface / device working as an USB/HID Mouse with absolute X and Y axes (instead of relative as a normal mouse would have). Well... it seems that all distributions but Ubuntu can not handle it, BUT the HID-Report is definitely correct, seems to be some kernel patch that only Ubuntu integrates. I think I'll go for U-lite (Ubuntu lite) for now. Maybe I'll come back later with a custom kernel with that patch applied to it.
If someone by random knows which patch that is, I'd really appreciate it :)


so long..