Linux desktop on your phone...

[vinceASPECT]

Hello forum,

Do any of you enjoy running a native speed desktop Linux on your phones?

From what I am reading, it says even non rooted phones will give near native performance with
Minor overheads to phone cpu ......if you use the free TERMUX app and the method below

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/how-do-i-install-a-gui-desktop-doVnAiEuSz2nqzNyFya4zg

It's a good desktop computer experience from even just a $25 new Walmart phone

Setup a swapfile too.....maybe zram of 1 gig.......and for the example given use a proot distro like
It advises at the end there

Many of the other Linux desktop free apps for Android are not as effective as this one

You can easily beam the desktop over to your large screen .......or you can
Use a new 5 bucks VR BOX for a 65 inch desktop..... by sliding your phone into
The box and using a free side by side app to show your phone screen TWICE
In one .....side by side
Use bluetoothe mouse and keyboard


Thx
C

[hiro]

i kinda stopped using phones for anything productive when they stopped having keyboards (symbian on nokia e72 and BB10 was very usable for ssh'ing into servers).

i manage to slot so much time in front of proper workstations that i desperately need all screen-off time i can get, so i have to say i don't even miss it.

i would never buy a mobile computer without a proper screen+keyboard any more. but i have 3 backup thinkpads which should last a long time anyways

[Leee]

i kinda stopped using phones for anything productive when they stopped having keyboards (symbian on nokia e72 and BB10 was very usable for ssh'ing into servers).

i manage to slot so much time in front of proper workstations that i desperately need all screen-off time i can get, so i have to say i don't even miss it.

i would never buy a mobile computer without a proper screen+keyboard any more. but i have 3 backup thinkpads which should last a long time anyways

I used to do a 24/7 support rotation and carried the company's blackberry "classic" that I could use, in a pinch, to troubleshoot the entire EDI communications system via ssh - I had even tweaked the UI and reporting so everything fit decently on the blackberry screen.

The company had a third party warranty on the blackberry so, when the charging port went bad, I asked them to send me a new blackberry.  They said they'd have it to me within three days.  The next day they said, "Um... We can't get Blackberries any more so we're sending you a very nice iPhone instead."  Yeah, thanks a lot.

[hiro]

yeah, exact same thing here. i installed an ssh client on the iPhone and have since never picked it up for anything but phonecalls...

[Leee]

yeah, exact same thing here. i installed an ssh client on the iPhone and have since never picked it up for anything but phonecalls...

I'm not really an iPhone user nowadays myself but a family member is and I'd like to set up an SFTP -server- on her phone that way I have on my android, in order to allow a PC to automatically retrieve photos from the iPhone.  Do you know if there is such a thing?  It seems like when I search for an iPhone SFTP server, I only get hits for SFTP -ckients- which is not what I want.

[vinceASPECT]

Forum memnbers,


i don't know if my rants are pertinent to this thread.  sorry

you want to use an iphone in a particular way by putting an APP on it
but you can't find that type of APP?........hmm

As regards Android i find some crazy powerful APPS for NON ROOTED phones
including SHIZUKU and then there are hundreds of other apps you can install & Run BECAUSE
YOU HAVE "SHIKUZU" installed .........an example would be "ShizuTools"

There are many many other powerful apps you can install and run becuase they find SHIZUKU


to enable SHIZUKU you just use the WIRELESS DEBUGER method and DEveloper mode.

Some things SHIZUTOOLS enables are , for example, a PANEL of independent VOLUME SLIDERS for each app you are currently running together ......which all produce sound

another feature of it is it lets you choose from ALL OF YOU APPS
which ones you want to share their audio with any others you select
who produce audio..............so all of those apps you choose will produce audio together
& you hear all of it at the same time...........then you can use the SLIDERS to mix it

Another feature is There is a floating window app......that will float any amount of floating
windows.... with an APP inside each window AT THE SAME TIME and SCREEN


and so on.......

i don't know how that stuff above may help your iphone issue but there is also
and android app that allows me to run any ios app on my android

is there a similar app for iphone that lets you run android apps?.....then you could run your android
versiom of SFTP on iphone

best wishes
C

[hiro]

yeah vince i think what you're describing sounds a lot like a "soft" jailbreak, which is probably too much effort, sorry.

Leee: My info is outdated, but first hand. Last I tried I found apple makes it deliberately hard to access your photo storage:
1) i tried using the internal file explorer and usb sticks with lightning adapter: didn't work.
2) i tried apps that serve as sshfs explorers: stalled, never finished copying.
3) finally, after apple released a samba mount feature in the main file explorer: photo copies still kept stalling and i never finished a proper sync

I heard from other people that for photos this is solved now by the opensource and self-hostable immich server (&app).

[Leee]

Leee: My info is outdated, but first hand. Last I tried I found apple makes it deliberately hard to access your photo storage:
1) i tried using the internal file explorer and usb sticks with lightning adapter: didn't work.
2) i tried apps that serve as sshfs explorers: stalled, never finished copying.
3) finally, after apple released a samba mount feature in the main file explorer: photo copies still kept stalling and i never finished a proper sync

I heard from other people that for photos this is solved now by the opensource and self-hostable immich server (&app).

Thanks.  Some how, all of that does not surprise me.  I've at least -heard- of immich, but I haven't played around with it.  Maybe now's the time to do so.

[vinceASPECT]

Hi forum

Have any of you tried the full support for a linux graphical desktop computer with
Full gpu and hardware acceleration in Android 16?  (Debian with full apps repo)

It's a free feature in developer mode and simple to set up in a few minutes

You can then just beam the phone screen over to a large screen using free tools like "scrcpy"
Add there are other free tools that can do beaming over to a raw screen...no other
Computer is involved.... Just the phone and large screen

The Linux desktop appears to work real good from the phone....apps run smooth such as libre office
...I would say the performance is similar to a $300 Linux laptop but from any 35 dollar phone

I hope to try it.... Currently I just saw videos showing it

But Android 16 seems to have advanced a lot

I mean my no point would really be... Don't buy any new laptops or anything... Just a 35 bucks
Phone will get you great desktop graphical computing....

Thx
C

Ps... You use a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard .. Couple of bucks each...new

[vinceASPECT]

Sorry forum

This video below is exactly how to get full desktop linux at native speed with full hardware acceleration
for gpu on your android 15 or 16 phone

it is about 20 steps and very simple and free

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2n_WuiW0fk


thx
c
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[vinceASPECT]

Hello forum

Here is getting Weston etc with full Linux gpu acceleration in your phone

https://youtu.be/BCsgEKTAM-g?si=RarZI-PgNLKLayM0

Thanks
C

[vinceASPECT]

Hello forum,

https://youtu.be/PyDQmfeRXQc?si=SxJsJ-aSYCsW2xHo

Another Linu example ....on any Android version phone...

Even entry level 29$ Walmart phones work very well In  giving you a fully fledged
Desktop computer on large monitor

Thx
C

[vinceASPECT]

Hello forum,

My rants about full GUI Linux on your phone missed
The point of telling you about the free play store app called
"Swap no root"

I don't know if just loading and setting it's swap works?

But I am under the impression that another tiny little script file
Needs to sit in the Android folder of the  phone.

I did this file and set a 2 giG swap which certainly improves this entry level
Phone performance....a lot

The APP itself infers that only itself is required

I hope you can get good performance using this free APP on any $25 entry level phone

Thanks
C

[vinceASPECT]

Hello forum,

I don't know if people know but there are magnifier screens sold for smartphones
At just 99 cents....

The screen sits Infront of your phone and double it's screen size to
Roughly that of a 9 inch tablet.

So essentially, you can then also use those "couple of bucks" tablet USB keyboards
with its  wallet.......and a USB mouse plus the magnifier ......and you have a nice laptop experience
by  using the free android 15 feature. ...."free Linux desktop feature" .

Also you can just use your phone in any other ways you see fit...

However, it's also worth remembering that when using android the manufacturer can throttle down your octa core Cpu to 2ghz per core.... But when running the free Android Linux feature, you will be able to
Issue a simple command and get the full 3ghz from the 8 cores of your cpu....

All told, this gives you a very good laptop experience from  A $29 Walmart phone...
It will perform as good as any $400 laptop you may have purchased

Also when using the phone in any other ways you can always use the
"SWAP no root" free app..... from the store........ The app gets good Android performance
....from entry level phones..........Read about it

This stuff above is far and away the cheapest reasonable computing experience
And most of people don't ever need to spend anymore than $29 + the accessories
Mentioned above.

Thx
C

There is also another excellent desktop competing experience
From a phone using a $5 VR headset...... I have
Mentioned this previously and if anybody wants to know then , just ask.....
.
The VR experience is far better than
Any conventional laptop.experience..... for example , it gives a 50
Inch desktop......

[hiro]

like in brazil, the movie.