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Offline vito

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Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
« on: August 13, 2024, 01:38:49 PM »
Steps:
  1. Select TinyCorePure64-15.0 iso in Ventoy menu
  2. Choose any option: boot normal, grub or memdisk
  3. Choose any option, e.g. tc.

Actual result:
  Black screen, nothing happens after pressing any key.

Expected result:
  Successful boot and shell command line.

Environment: laptop Dell XPS 15, 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-11400H, 16 GB RAM, USB, FAT32 file system, GPT, UEFI. Ventoy 1.0.99

Logs:
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disk/efi/efidisk.c:581: reading 0x140 sectors at the sector 0x1480 from cdo
disk/efi/efidisk.c:581: reading Ox140 sectors at the sector 0x15co from cdo
disk/efi/efidisk.c:581: reading 0x140 sectors at the sector 0x1700 from cdo
disk/efi/efidisk.c:581: reading 0x140 sectors at the sector 0x1840 from cdo
disk/efi/efidisk.c:581: reading 0x140 sectors at the sector 0x1980 from cdo
disk/efi/efidisk.c:581: reading 0x140 sectors at the sector 0x1aco from cdo
disk/efi/efidisk.c:581: reading 0x140 sectors at the sector 0x1c00 from cdo
disk/efi/efidisk.c:581: reading 0x140 sectors at the sector 0x1d40 from cdo
disk/efi/efidisk.c:581: reading 0x140 sectors at the sector 0x1e80 from cdo
disk/efi/efidisk.c:581: reading 0x140 sectors at the sector 0x1fco from cdo
disk/efi/efidisk.c:581: reading 0x140 sectors at the sector 0x2100 from cdo
disk/efi/efidisk.c:581: reading oxc0 sectors at the sector 0x2240 from cdo
disk/efi/efidisk.c:581: reading Ox10 sectors at the sector 0x2300 from cdo
loader/i386/linux.c:1124: Initrd, addr=0x9726a000, size=0xd8551c
kern/disk.c:295: Closing `cd0'.
disk/efi/efidisk.c:553: closing cd0
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e862e0
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e86320 `
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e86360 :
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e85dco
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e85e20
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e85e60
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e85eco
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e85f20
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e85f80
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e86180
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e861e0
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e86220
script/lexer.c:322: token 259 text [
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script/script .c:50: malloc 0x52e86240
script/script.c:50: malloc Ox52e86200
script/lexer.c:322: token 0 text []
script/script.c:50: malloc 0x52e86380
script/script.c:50: malloc 0x52e86340
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e86340
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e86380
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e86200
script/script.C:65: free 0%52e86240
script/lexer.c:322: token 259 text [
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script/script.c:50: malloc x52e86240
script/script.c:50: malloc 0x52e86200
script/lexer.c:322: token 0 text []
script/script.c:50: malloc 0x52e86380
script/script.c:50: malloc 0x52e86340
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e86340
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e86380
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e86200
script/script.c:65: free 0x52e86240
« Last Edit: August 13, 2024, 01:40:29 PM by vito »

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Re: Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2024, 03:38:18 AM »
Make sure any secure boot bios options are disabled, and then see the various debug and early debug kernel boot options in kernel-parameters.txt.
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Re: Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2024, 09:05:52 AM »
Despite secure boot disabled and various debug and early debug kernel boot options (debug earlyprintk=vga ioremap_debug, earlycon, ekgdboc, trace_vent=*.* stacktrace) the result is the same (screen is black).

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Re: Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2024, 10:27:20 AM »
check this out and keep us posted on your progress!

https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/issues/214
The fluctuation theorem has long been known for a sudden switch of the Hamiltonian of a classical system Z54 . For a quantum system with a Hamiltonian changing from... https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,25972.msg166580.html#msg166580

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Re: Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2024, 03:02:11 AM »
Unfortunately, disabling Intel Rapid Start (by setting "Block Sleep" on in Power section in BIOS) didn't resolve the issue. Also, disabling Intel Speed Shift Technology didn't do. GRUB bootloader logs are very similar. Any other hints, perhaps?

To avoid doubts, Ubuntu and other Linux distros boot correctly on the same laptop and USB so the issue seems to be with TinyCorePure64 only. Fortunately, it is possible to reboot laptop by pressing ctrl+alt+del for a few seconds.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2024, 03:08:12 AM by vito »

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Re: Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2024, 05:33:58 AM »
Logs (tail) attached.

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Re: Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2024, 05:36:05 AM »
... and the preceding screen of logs.

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Re: Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2024, 08:14:32 AM »
check this out and keep us posted on your progress!

https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/issues/214

disable "Intel Rapid Start Technology" in BIOS > Config > Power!

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Re: Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2024, 11:22:13 AM »
Hi vito
Try adding some wait time. When the Tinycore boot menu
comes up, hit the tab key and add this to the boot options:
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waitusb=10

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Re: Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2024, 12:51:55 PM »
disable "Intel Rapid Start Technology" in BIOS > Config > Power!
There isn't any "Intel Rapid Start Technology" in BIOS > Config > Power on my Dell laptop.

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Re: Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2024, 01:26:51 PM »
Hi vito
Try adding some wait time. When the Tinycore boot menu
comes up, hit the tab key and add this to the boot options:
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waitusb=10
Unfortunately, waitusb=10 didn't resolved the issue.

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Re: Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2024, 03:38:23 PM »
does it work properly without ventoy?
i also had a similar problem with ventoy+porteus. lucky for me, the boot worked correctly with the grub option.

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Re: Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2024, 07:56:12 AM »
looks like that unit was available with more than one graphics option(intel or nvidia)

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/09/dell-xps-15-9510-review-a-gorgeous-well-balanced-workstation-laptop/
The fluctuation theorem has long been known for a sudden switch of the Hamiltonian of a classical system Z54 . For a quantum system with a Hamiltonian changing from... https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,25972.msg166580.html#msg166580

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Re: Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2024, 08:07:45 AM »
searched the forum for instances/mentions of ventoy and this was one of them:

https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23363.msg165688.html#msg165688

tl;dr:
post suggests trying acpi=noirq
The fluctuation theorem has long been known for a sudden switch of the Hamiltonian of a classical system Z54 . For a quantum system with a Hamiltonian changing from... https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,25972.msg166580.html#msg166580

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Re: Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2024, 01:05:31 PM »
There isn't any "Intel Rapid Start Technology" in BIOS > Config > Power on my Dell laptop.

wrt>Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy
perhaps something about your configuration
inspires your computer to enter (undocumented) "goth mode"  :P
... it could be working fine with black gothic-font on black background!

looks like that unit was available with more than one graphics option(intel or nvidia)

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/09/dell-xps-15-9510-review-a-gorgeous-well-balanced-workstation-laptop/

https://www.dell.com/community/en/conversations/laptops-general-locked-topics/is-intel-rapid-start-useless-on-xps-15-9530-if-hdd-swapped-for-ssd/647f4761f4ccf8a8def97a95
...
https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-uk/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=crrkj#SupportedOs

does it work properly without ventoy?
i also had a similar problem with ventoy+porteus. lucky for me, the boot worked correctly with the grub option.

standalone efi @ https://www.supergrubdisk.org/category/download/supergrub2diskdownload/super-grub2-disk-stable/
might be useful to test alt ldr?...