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6X thru 11X tests and results including good audio and a consistent crash
Rich:
Hi grandma
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The "CLAIM" I was referring to was this:
--- Quote ---... 9. I understand you have compiled CALLS into various Aps specifically to this windows manager ...
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I'm not aware of any Aps being tied to flwm_topside.
I currently run flwm_topside on TC4, TC9, TC10 with no issues.
--- Quote from: grandma on June 20, 2021, 04:24:54 PM --- ... On another cheery note JWM from TC3x works great in 8x - but no top bar ...
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Why are you using the TC3 version on TC8? Why not install the TC8 version?
grandma:
OKOKOKOKOKOKOK GRANDMAS A RETARD....
Rich said "TRY RUNNING JWM BY ITSELF (if you don't like FLWM_TOPSIDE).
I said "Geee I tried that...and still got the fat X mouse thingy...but will try it again."
Curaga said "Are you using the ONBOOT.LST that comes with the Distro?"
I said "Yeah, I always do...."
But what I found was a little SCRIPT I have that checks for downloaded libraries so I don't strain your mirrors...dug up old JWM on my system - the 3x version - put it in the 8X repo - and when booted that without FLWM_TOPSIDE in onboot.lst things splattered.
I checked the byte count vs the JWM you provide for 8X and sun-ova-gun ya know it be a different compile...who wulda thunk?
So I got the 8x JWM, removeded FLWM_TOPSIDE in onboot.lst - and bingo, bango, bongo, it has the look and feel of 3x I luved so much - no FLWM (Frigging Lousy Windows Manager)....
I still have a bit of moderate blue borders - but not the super light Alice Blue FLWM had. I'll tinker...
BTW - someone said JWM lost it's top bar when run on 8x - but I have mine. HOWEVER, the X (upper right) to open a TERMINAL does not work...hmmm...no biggie .... and the X to SHUTDOWN/REBOOT does not work either so I am going to figure out how to get rid of the top bar - kinda useless...no biggie.
Now if anyone has any idea how to improve FONTS I'd be thankful.
As for music/audio/video - which died long ago with a new laptop running tce3x - and works fine on 8x - and THAT is the key to a happy user.
As for WEB SITES nagging me to upgrade Firefox - the ESR provided with 8x does NOT upgrade automatically, so with a USER.JS stuffed into the /home/tc/.mozilla/firefox/?????.default folder I can disable most of the nasty stuff Firefox has slowly added to their browser, making it a comfortable ride again...and by setting a bogus User Agent google and youtube think I have the latest version....which I don't ever want to install.
It appears Firefox, like Google, has a lot of Techs who need jobs so they plaster their websites and products with really stupid, broken features to show how smart they aren't...when KISS has generally proven more comfortable for most folks....my two cents.
On the question of WHY I RUN TC3X? I always will.
Its fast, small, reliable, I have all my office and publishing tools there and while I MUST create a modern environment with 8X, Firefox, Abiword, Gnumeric, GIMP2, Epdfview and a few other tools for clients (or they'll think I have "Stuck in Boomer" disease) I like the reliability of the system I have...and it's greased lightning fast...which is why I created DAMNFASTLINUX.COM - which features Tiny Core - 3x and soon the 8x distros - with specific office tools and scripts etc.
grandma:
I dunno if I am supposed to put SOLVED in this or if you do it, so I did it.
grandma:
Dear Rich,
Also "Why I still use TCE 3X"...
I needed AUDIO and VIDEO in Firefox and VLC which 3X used to have but broke as my laptops upgraded.
And I needed a Firefox that played media - which also worked in 3X, but no longer.
And I needed a Firefox that didn't constantly NAG to upgrade, or automatically upgrade as the latest Firefox always does on my Android.
And so for years I struggled to get audio/video to work in various TCE 4X through 11X and FINALLY got a script to load all ALSA first (NOT in ONBOOT.LST), then load Pulse Audio, then do a sudo pulseaudio --system - and only then, it loads VLC2, then loads Firefox-ESR that comes with 8x - which is modern enough to do a fine job of audio/video, plays everything nicely, and with some customized user.js file I stuff into /home/tc/.mozilla/firefox/abcxya.default folder, stops the nags, stops the auto-updates, allows popups and autoplay, sets a home page etc. and Firefox-ESR is a well behaved, good looking browser again.
So now, with the JWM issue solved I am building the 8X upgrade so I have it and can pass it on to clients and use it for my own use when I want to hear music or see a website with media.
But when I am WORKING I still usually run 3X. Why?
Perl5 hasn't changed much...not for my use as a backend CGI while managing 200 domains on a server and
Apache2 is still the most reliable webpage server, which also hasn't changed much for my use for 10 years, and all the OTHER tools, like Leafpad and GIMP2 I frequently use are all faster and easier to use on TCE 3X than any other version I've tried...so...
Speed, reliability, ease of use...except for audio/video needs why wouldn't I cherish lil old TCE 3X? When configured as I have it she's a gem.
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