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hiro:
yep, i also got the update.
most notably, wireguard now started working also without the wireguard-lts package.

i have a kind of frankenlinux machine that is a mix of principles that i got from smartos, alpine and tinycorelinux:

there's a little flash drive with alpine on it that feels like tinycorelinux, it has zfs modules added so that i can do all the same stuff as on smartos, also i have wireguard from mainline 5.10 kernel.
and after the zfs automount, datasets with all my 64bit and 32bit tinycorelinux installations are ready to be used.

i do not chroot into tinycorelinux any more, instead i use unshare -m to create a mount namespace, and then supply a special fstab to `mount -a -T`, so that /dev/, /sys and /tmp can be shared by all distros.

vinnie:
I was looking for information on chroot and came across this page.
I am a user of Alpine as well.
However, there are 2-3 things I don't like about it:
1)the almost non-existent community, the only place you can hope for a response is the chat on irc/matrix.
2)They also tend to leave out reports of problems, currently I reported a brutal bug due to the normal operation of tar that doesn't save superdirectory permissions, ignored for two years: https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/alpine-conf/-/issues/10467 (I hope it's not in tinycore too)
3)musl, let's be clear, it's not that i prefer glibc but there is a lot of incompatible software

On the other hand for me the biggest problem of tinycore is the package management, due to the fact that the building is not automated with each new version you always lose a multitude of packages and this forces tinycore to remain a non prominent distro for the scarcity of available software (that's why i wanted to try to use tinycore with appimages).

@hiro

--- Quote from: hiro on December 15, 2020, 06:57:15 AM ---alpine can only copy packages to RAM and yet i cannot unmount the boot flash

--- End quote ---
This was one of the first things I missed about tinycore but in this one I found a solution on my own.
I didn't test it in depth but at least for that little bit it worked:
Assume that alpine is mounted on partition sda1:
.1) mount -o rw,remount /dev/sda1 #remount the pen in writing (if I remember correctly if you don't do it then you have problems at remounting)
.2) umount -l /dev/sda1 #unmount the pen in lazy mode
.3) mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb #if you need to remount the pen to make changes

I don't know smartos, I tried searching the internet but I didn't understand much about this distro.
Another interesting distro (but that currently doesn't work for me) if you want to have a look, is called easyos

curaga:
A lazy umount followed by pulling the stick will cause corruption. You should never do that.

vinceASPECT:
Hello, well without dwelling on non the topic.

Perhaps will enjoy trying Alpine. Interest. 
Hopefully it is just an .iso file which you put on media and boot.

It is small, right.

It sounds like the APPS is quite reasonable. It's mechanism is recognised.

"Dcore" is perhaps well comparable, but it didn't appear as a standard OS
so i have not returned to try it again....  no gui.    (don't know if that changed)

many thx

C

vinnie:

--- Quote from: curaga on June 27, 2021, 01:34:36 AM ---A lazy umount followed by pulling the stick will cause corruption. You should never do that.

--- End quote ---

Do you know why? I found that command just because I couldn't unmount the disk that was always busy, but alpine is a distro started in ram like tinycore so they for some reason keep the disk busy not doing anything. I understand that -l doesn't unmount the disk if it's still writing.

@vince
alpine does not have any gui too, the installation process is also a little bit more complex than that of tinycore but they are  conceptually similar

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