hi rich and aus9
thanks for all your help
restarted everything with coreplus 11 but still got errors
downloaded tinycore 11 and used firefox-get-latest
and it worked fine
posting from it now
so could it be something wrong with corepup 11 iso
however i am ok with this result because it allows me to move forward
ill see if using the tinycore 11 tce with coreplus 11 eliminates the errors
and keep playing with it until i figure something out
ulfr