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Browser opera-12.tcz did not work on Tiny Core version 11.0 32-bit.

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Juanito:
opera-12 was missing a dep file in the x86 10.x and 11.x repos - added now.

The 11.x info file was adjusted to reflect that gstreamer-0.10 is not available in the repo.

marcelocripe:
Rico and Juanito,

On the computer that gave the problem I managed to make the opera work with fontconfig.tcz and gstreamer-0.10. After installing these dependencies, I needed to run Apps: Regular Applications, go to Maintenance, OnDemand, Maintenance, select fontconfig.tcz and Add Item, I repeated the same procedure with gstreamer-0.10 and opera-12.

Juanito, I don't know how big your work was and how long it took you to add the dependency to the x86 10.x and 11.x repositories and the 11.x information file to adjust to reflect that gstreamer-0.10 that was not available in the repository.

Can I help in any way to prepare the updated Opera?

It is possible to prepare a complete extension, including all dependencies or auxiliary programs, to prepare it in a compressed file, for when the user is going to download this file, which could be a compressed file (.zip, or .tar, or. tar.gz, or .tar.bz2, or other), unzip in the appropriate location (directory) and later run on Tiny Core?

This type of process is much more friendly and easy for any user, Tiny Core would only need to start with a file manager similar to spacefm.tcz, for now this is the file manager that worked best in the tests I did, because the spacefm allows you to easily run other programs and still have access as a super user, root or sudo. Pcmanfm.tcz is apparently more beautiful, but I was unable to open the files (bootlocal.sh and .filetool) to edit using pcmanfm, even if I checked the option View, Show Hidden.

They could teach me how to prepare new extensions and / or update extensions, I am interested in learning, I want to be able to collaborate with the forum and the Tiny Core Linux project.

I am preparing tutorials with photos in Brazilian Portuguese to post on the forum, these are the results of the tests that I have been doing and successfully doing, thanks to the support that I have been having from you two and other colleagues.

Thankful.
marcelocripe

Original text in Brazilian Portuguese, translation into English by Google Translate.

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Rico e Juanito,

No computador que deu o problema eu consegui fazer o opera funcionar com a fontconfig.tcz e gstreamer-0.10. Após a instalção destas dependências, eu precisei executar o Apps: Regular Applications, ir em Maintenance, OnDemand, Maintenance, selecionar fontconfig.tcz e Add Item, repeti o mesmo procedimento com o gstreamer-0.10 e opera-12.

Juanito, eu não sei qual foi o tamanho do seu trabalho e o tempo que você levou para incluir a dependência nos repositórios x86 10.xe 11.x e o arquivo de informações 11.x de ajustar para refletir que o gstreamer-0.10 que não estava disponível no repositório.

Posso ajudar de alguma forma para preparar o Opera atualizado?

É possível preparar uma extensão completa, estando nela incluída todas as dependências ou programas auxiliares, preparar em um arquivo compactado, para quando o usuário for fazer o download deste arquivo, que poderia ser um arquivo compactado (.zip, ou .tar, ou .tar.gz, ou .tar.bz2, ou outra), descompactar no local (diretório) adequado e posteriormente ser executado no Tiny Core? 

Este tipo de processo é muito mais amigável e fácil para qualquer usuário, o Tiny Core só precisaria iniciar com um gerenciador de arquivos semelhante ao spacefm.tcz, por enquanto este é o gerenciador de arquivos que melhor funcionou nos testes que eu fiz, porque o spacefm permite executar com facilidade outros programas e ainda com o acesso como super usuário, root ou sudo. O pcmanfm.tcz aparentemente é mais bonito, mas eu não consegui abrir os arquivos (bootlocal.sh e o .filetool) para editar usando o pcmanfm, mesmo marcando a opção View, Show Hidden. 

Poderiam me ensinar a preparar novas extensões e/ou atualizar as extensões, tenho interesse em aprender, eu quero poder colaborar com o fórum e com o projeto Tiny Core Linux. 

Estou preparando tutoriais com fotos em português do Brasil para postar no fórum, são os resultados dos testes que venho fazendo e conseguindo realizar com sucesso, graças ao apoio que venho tendo de vocês dois e de outros colegas. 

Grato.
marcelocripe

Texto original em português do Brasil, tradução para o inglês por Google Tradutor.

Juanito:
The dependency file opera-12.tcz.dep contains gtk2.tcz - this means that when you load the opera-12 extension, it will automatically load the gtk2 extension and all of its dependencies recursively. Please check that you have opera-12.tcz.dep in your tce/optional folder.

Since the fontconfig extension is one of the recursive dependencies of gtk2, it will automatically be loaded when you load opera-12.

If you want to install tinycore on a number of computers that cannot be connected to the internet, I suggest:

* decide which extensions you wish to install on the computers
* install tinycore to a usb stick
* boot a computer that is connected to the internet from the usb stick
* install all of the extensions to the usb stick from the internet, including tc-install-GUI

You can then boot additional computers from the usb stick, install tinycore to those computers using tc-install and finally copy the additional extensions from the usb stick to the computers.

marcelocripe:
Juanito,

Yes, there is the dependency file opera-12.tcz.dep in the mnt / sda1 / tec / optional folder of Tiny Core Plus 32 bits.

I noticed the fontconfig extension being loaded automatically when I loaded opera-12 in Apps: Regular Applications (tcz).

Thanks for the suggestions, follow my comments:

* decide which extensions you want to install on computers

Answer: I am testing the extensions of the applications that computers will receive, according to the hardware specifications, the extensions that everyone will have: file manager, image viewer, internet browser, libreoffice, gimp2, DVD recorder, if it is a notebook or battery level meter, everyone needs to have the audio working for both vlc3 and firefox, as it is the most up-to-date and available internet browser for Tiny Core Plus, when I am close to reaching the goal, I believe I will have to change the name of each machine to use it on a network to share the internet and / or printer when there is one, creating a user and entering an administrator password for each machine connected to the network. Computers with a better processor and 2GB of RAM intend to include audacity (audio editor) and flowblade (video editor).

* install tinycore on a USB stick
Answer: It is via pendrive that I am doing the installation tests, some computers do not have a functioning DVD / CD player, I will remove and replace it with a memory card reader, the goal is to make the memory card reader work.

* boot a computer connected to the internet from the flash drive

* install all pendrive extensions from the internet, including tc-install-GUI

Answer: When I manage to make the audio work (on vlc3 and firefox), finish selecting the extensions that work best on Tiny Core Plus, they should be the easiest to be used by me and the end / common user, I intend to make the the way you indicated in this post, in addition to the pendrive, I got an external HD to support the tests, so I have several participations in the forum, as I manage to evolve at each step I answer, explaining how I managed to make it work , my answer can certainly help other colleagues.

You can boot additional computers from the pendrive, install tinycore on those computers using tc-install and finally copy the additional pendrive extensions to the computers.

Answer: If all of this works out I intend to publish a tutorial with text in Brazilian Portuguese with photos and print screen of each step in order to help more people to use Tiny Core. If I am unable to publish on the forum, if you authorize me I can send you by email.

I don't know how my texts are being interpreted due to the translations, I hope you are understanding well.

Thanks

marcelocripe

Original text in English from Brazil, translated into English by Google Translate.

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Juanito,

Sim, tem o arquivo de dependência opera-12.tcz.dep na pasta mnt/sda1/tec/opcional do Tiny Core Plus 32 bits.

Eu observei a extensão fontconfig sendo carregada automaticamente quando carreguei o opera-12 no Apps: Regular Applications (tcz).

Agradeço pelas sugestões, seguem os meus comentários:

* decida quais extensões você deseja instalar nos computadores

Resposta: Eu estou testando as extensões das aplicações que os computadores receberão, conforme as especificações de hardware, as extensões que todos terão: gerenciador de arquivos, visualizador de imagens, navegador de internet, libreoffice, gimp2, gravador de DVD, se for notebook o medidor de nível de bateria, todos precisam possuir o áudio funcionado tanto para o vlc3 quanto no firefox, por ser o navegador de internet mais atualizado e disponível para o Tiny Core Plus, quando eu estiver próximo de atingir o objetivo, acredito que eu terei que mudar o nome de cada máquina para utilizar em rede para compartilhar internet e/ou impressora quando houver, criando usuário e inserindo senha de administrador para cada máquina conectada na rede. Os computadores com melhor processador e com 2GB de memória RAM pretendo incluir audacity (editor de áudio) e o flowblade (editor de vídeo que você disponibilizou).

* instale o tinycore em um pendrive
Resposta: É via pendrive que estou fazendo os testes de instalação, alguns computadores não possuem um leitor de DVD/CD funcionado, eu irei retirar e substituir por leitor de cartão de memória, o objetivo é de fazer o leitor de cartão de memória funcionar .

* inicialize um computador conectado à internet a partir do pendrive

* instale todas as extensões do pendrive a partir da internet, incluindo tc-install-GUI

Resposta: Quando eu conseguir fazer funcionar o áudio (no vlc3 e no firefox), concluir a seleção das extensões que melhores funcionam no Tiny Core Plus, deverão ser os mais fáceis de serem utilizadas por mim e pelo usuário final / comum, pretendo fazer da forma que você me indicou neste post, além do pendrive, eu consegui um HD externo para apoiar nos testes, por isso estou com várias participações no fórum, conforme eu vou conseguindo evoluir a cada etapa eu respondo, explicando como foi que eu consegui fazer funcionar, certamente a minha resposta poderá ajudar outros colegas.

Você pode inicializar computadores adicionais a partir do pendrive, instalar tinycore nesses computadores usando o tc-install e finalmente copiar as extensões adicionais do pendrive para os computadores.

Resposta: Se tudo isso der certo eu pretendo publicar tutorial com texto em português do Brasil com fotos e print screen de cada etapas para poder ajudar mais pessoas a usar o Tiny Core. Se eu não conseguir publicar no fórum, se você me autorizar posso te enviar por e-mail.

Eu não sei como os meus textos estão sendo interpretados devido as traduções, eu espero que estejam compreendendo bem.

Obrigado

marcelocripe

neonix:

--- Quote from: marcelocripe on April 05, 2020, 08:25:27 PM ---Can I help in any way to prepare the updated Opera?

It is possible to prepare a complete extension, including all dependencies or auxiliary programs, to prepare it in a compressed file, for when the user is going to download this file, which could be a compressed file (.zip, or .tar, or. tar.gz, or .tar.bz2, or other), unzip in the appropriate location (directory) and later run on Tiny Core?

This type of process is much more friendly and easy for any user, Tiny Core would only need to start with a file manager similar to spacefm.tcz, for now this is the file manager that worked best in the tests I did, because the spacefm allows you to easily run other programs and still have access as a super user, root or sudo. Pcmanfm.tcz is apparently more beautiful, but I was unable to open the files (bootlocal.sh and .filetool) to edit using pcmanfm, even if I checked the option View, Show Hidden.

They could teach me how to prepare new extensions and / or update extensions, I am interested in learning, I want to be able to collaborate with the forum and the Tiny Core Linux project.

I am preparing tutorials with photos in Brazilian Portuguese to post on the forum, these are the results of the tests that I have been doing and successfully doing, thanks to the support that I have been having from you two and other colleagues.

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Opera-12 is old browser but people with slow computers can still view some webpages using it.

In 64-bit TC10 and TC11 there's iridium-browser, opera-62, vivaldi, seamonkey and firefox-ESR.

If you want to create an extension here is a tutorial.
http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/doku.php?id=wiki:creating_extensions

You can also write tutorial "how to create tcz extension with the newest browser" and the users will use it to create their own tcz extension.

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