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Pats:
Linux based new OS is KaiOS..
All advanced  features of a smartphones are posible in a feature phone with KaiOS including verbal instructions etc. ... Ggl has also invested in KaiOS recently...

Features of a smartphones like 4G LTE E, GPS and Wi-Fi with HTML5-based apps etc etc are posible  . ... I have used Nokia 8110 4G  with KaiOS.   Looks like Linux is non-stopable and becoming  jack-of-all-trades, right from deep sea exploration to the space missions !

A small project in a school lab can achieve level of this scale ... no-one had ever imagined even in a dream !

 Kudos to Linus T.  :)

PDP-8:
The reason for me that smartphones are basically uninteresting from a *nix-hacker standpoint, is that in the end, they are very UN-unix like in operation, and serve merely as application launchers.

So whether it was CP/M launching Wordstar, or Android launching Instagram, the whole concept of "apps" not being able to pipe or redirect into each other and wasting energy and resources reinventing the wheel individually, is somewhat like going back to the ways of CP/M or ms-dos merely launching things.

I've already been there decades ago, albeit with much larger equipment. :)

I think an OpenBSD developer gave a good talk about this same issue, but I forgot exactly where I could point to.

Perhaps for some developers, just developing a consumerized application launcher is just not where it's at from an intellectually stimulating standpoint.

Most consumers don't truly understand what is behind the curtain, or have been carefully shielded from the glory of what it is under the hood.

Sadly, some days I feel like Brian Reid of Scribe fame being allegedly told that his ideas were "too old to matter". :(

mocore:

wrt drivers .. i just happened to be reading this : https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Android_Compatibility
and recalled this topic

--- Quote from: sailfishos.org/wiki/Android_Compatibility ---Sailfish OS is a modern GNU/Linux operating system
which uses glibc and utilises libhybris
to leverage board support packages provided by OEMs for Android.
This allows Sailfish OS to be ported to (almost) any device which currently runs Android.
This simplifies device creation and product planning, as device manufacturers can
reuse existing device platforms
to create Sailfish OS variant devices.
--- End quote ---
???

nour:

--- Quote from: Pats on May 20, 2018, 10:34:45 PM ---Why linux community is not much interested in developing Mobile OS , the way they have provoded robust alternatives to Windoze ?
.. Though Android may be an OpenSource project but most of its apps are proprietary .
.. 1 ) Tizen is completely open-source and truly linux based with active support from Linux Foundation , but due to lack of App Developers support , mobile users have lost intetst , but still ticking.
.. 2 ) Ubuntu Touch is in initial stages with only Chinease Meizu and a Spanish company showing some interest.
.. 3 ) KDE has shown some interest in 'Plasma Mobile' OS with integration of present KDE apps , but except Nexus5 phones it is nowhere.
.. 4 ) Post Market OS based on Alpine linux may do to old phones which initial linux systems did for old XT,  P1 , P2 etc desktop computers - new lease of life !
.. 5 ) A few other experiments like eelo , LineageOS , Sailfish which is an extension project of prvs Meego of Nokia , Firefox based cheaper smartphones etc are in very primary stages which may or may not see the market attention .

.. Now the question is , why different linux developers including *TinyCore are not taking much interest to extend their desktop based expertize and enthusiasm - to develop Mobile opetating systems and / or apps ?

Or am I missing some recent developments on this front ? .. :)

--- End quote ---

I totally agree,
What I fear the most is : at this moement, Google and Apple have the complete control, you can not update your application for your users without their agreement and that's scary.
If Google decide to kill anything, they will just do it and we will not be able to react or to have anything to do.
They killed Google+ just like that.

Pats:
KaiOS update Info from net:

Linux-based KaiOS is mostly used on ordinary feature phones , enabling these devices with many features of smartphones like  access to apps WhatsApp, YouTube, Google Maps, the Google Assistant and Facebook, as well as a store for apps called the KaiStore.

 ...A venture of  San Diego, California-based start-up KaiOS Technologies with CEO Sebastien Codeville, KaiOS is the third biggest operating system globally after Android and iOS.

... 250 employees strong, KaiOS Technologies  declared $50 million  Series B funding by mostly Cathay Innovation, with support from Kai's existing shareholders Google and TCL Holdings - ***not Tinycore, I guess or is it ? :) .

... Linux , Linux ...everywhere !

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