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Frugal install on new laptop (UEFI-BIOS trouble?)
pq5190362:
Again, GPT @ FAT32 would be correct for native UEFI, but that would require him do disable legacy boot mode in the firmware.
He has enabled legacy boot mode in the firmware though, so he would need MBR @ NTFS/FAT32.
I could imagine that this might actually be the issue.
Legacy boot mode enabled = CSM (Compatibility Support Module) = BIOS mode = MBR @ NTFS/FAT32
Legacy boot mode disabled = native UEFI mode = GPT @ FAT32
Anyway, just have him post a photo of his firmware boot order settings. He is complaining about his firmware boot order settings not working properly, but does not post a photo of it, that is of no help to solve the issue.
--- Quote from: YoupMelon on October 03, 2017, 07:39:57 AM ---Just to give you an idea of what I'm facing:
My BIOS gives me two orders to edit, an UEFI-list and a legacy one.
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See, just what I am saying:
--- Quote from: pq5190362 on October 03, 2017, 07:24:37 AM ---Also: He still has not posted a photo of his boot order settings. It's very likely that something is not configured properly there, especially because HP firmware usually allows to specify the boot order for legacy mode and UEFI mode separately.
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:)
Will you post a photo now?
--- Quote from: YoupMelon on October 03, 2017, 07:39:57 AM ---But even when I put 'USB' top of the list in both orders; when it comes to booting, OS Manager is taken as the default. :-\
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Are you referring to a "Windows Boot Manager" entry in the boot order?
This is the boot loader that is being installed into the UEFI for UEFI OS installations.
It might be possible that your firmware allows you to edit those entries, but unless you post a photo of it, nobody will be able to tell you.
It can also be done via software though, see for example:
https://www.lifewire.com/change-the-efi-boot-order-efibootmgr-4028027
But you would need to try this yourself.
YoupMelon:
--- Quote from: pq5190362 on October 03, 2017, 07:24:37 AM ---
--- Quote from: Juanito on October 03, 2017, 03:28:43 AM ---I'd say that your problem is right there
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No, I don't think so.
First of all: He has enabled legacy mode in the firmware and now tries to create a UEFI USB stick, this is just wrong.
You would want to create a UEFI USB stick if you would have disabled legacy mode and not when it is enabled.
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What you're saying is that after enabling legacy mode, it should be possible to get the BIOS to take the USB with ordinary 32bit TinyCore as default, right?
At this moment I can boot it, but only after selecting it down the list during boot. It works like a charm that way.
Getting TC as default boot-option is what doesn't seem to work.
And that's why I'm afraid for some security lock-in.
From the release notes that you posted, I'd say the fix won't help.
My keys work fine when editing the BIOS, including the number keys (I have changed the delay-seconds successfully, couple of time.)
Many thanks for that rodbooks ref! I'm reading it right now.
BTW, both in the UEFI boot order as well as in the legacy mode boot order, I have 'USB stick' top of the list in both, and it has saved those settings.
pq5190362:
--- Quote from: YoupMelon on October 03, 2017, 08:00:53 AM ---What you're saying is that after enabling legacy mode, it should be possible to get the BIOS to take the USB with ordinary 32bit TinyCore as default, right?
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Yes.
--- Quote from: YoupMelon on October 03, 2017, 08:00:53 AM ---At this moment I can boot it, but only after selecting it down the list during boot. It works like a charm that way.
Getting TC as default boot-option is what doesn't seem to work.
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I already told you what your issue is, it's this: https://www.lifewire.com/change-the-efi-boot-order-efibootmgr-4028027
Unfortunately you ignored it.
--- Quote from: YoupMelon on October 03, 2017, 08:00:53 AM ---BTW, both in the UEFI boot order as well as in the legacy mode boot order, I have 'USB stick' top of the list in both, and it has saved those settings.
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You are very likely to be able to fix the issue by simply removing the checkbox from the UEFI boot order in the firmware settings, i.e. essentially disabling the UEFI boot order list, i.e. also disabling the "Windows Boot Manager" entry.
Anyway, I already told you to post a photo of it. Unfortunately you ignored it several times. This will have been the last time I asked.
Juanito:
--- Quote from: pq5190362 on October 03, 2017, 07:24:37 AM ---No, I don't think so.
First of all: He has enabled legacy mode in the firmware and now tries to create a UEFI USB stick, this is just wrong.
You would want to create a UEFI USB stick if you would have disabled legacy mode and not when it is enabled.
--- End quote ---
The grub2 instructions are for a dual legacy bios/uefi boot usb stick...
pq5190362:
@ YoupMelon:
I don't know why I am still helping you, but anyway: Just disable the UEFI boot order as outlined in the following photos by either selecting it and then pressing F5 to disable it (and F10 to save it) or by removing the checkbox from it or by setting it to disabled (depending on what it looks like on your model, which nobody of us can tell unfortunately since you repeatedly refuse to post a photo), see:
https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/156555i5281FAE4548751D1?v=1.0
https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/138523i8F2B154B3E535296?v=1.0
https://support.hp.com/doc-images/188/c03094732.jpg
Anyway, from now on: No photo, no help.
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