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"Download + Load" not working properly on TinyCorePure64?
« on: October 06, 2016, 07:27:20 PM »
Hi,

just booted up TinyCorePure64-7.2.iso inside VirtualBox, working fine.

Then installed some apps via "Download + Load", seems to be working fine.

But running those apps does not seem to work. When trying to start them, nothing happens. Only the apps that come pre-installed with TinyCorePure64-7.2.iso do start.

Is this a known issue?

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Re: "Download + Load" not working properly on TinyCorePure64?
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2016, 07:48:40 PM »
If you try running the program from the terminal, what error messages do you get?


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Re: "Download + Load" not working properly on TinyCorePure64?
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2016, 03:38:57 AM »
If you try running the program from the terminal, what error messages do you get?

Have attached a screenshot of the terminal to this post, see (seems like you need to be logged on to the forum to be able to see the screenshot):

Would have loved to copy the output as text, but unfortunately the shared clipboard from the VirtualBox guest to the host does not work (what extension would that require?).
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Re: "Download + Load" not working properly on TinyCorePure64?
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2016, 04:13:10 AM »
I just tried abiword on corepure64 bare metal and inside virtualbox-5.1.4 and it works fine in both cases - albeit it looks better with adwaita-icon-themes loaded.

Did you try checking if you have the latest version of the various required extensions using the apps gui maintenance/check for updates (don't forget to reboot in the vm once done)?
« Last Edit: October 07, 2016, 04:16:26 AM by Juanito »

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Re: "Download + Load" not working properly on TinyCorePure64?
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2016, 04:50:00 AM »
I do not have TinyCorePure64-7.2.iso installed in VirtualBox.

I just boot it up as a live media.

Once it's booted up, I can install any app via "Download + Load". Bot no app actually can be started.

If I do the same using TinyCore-7.2.iso (the 32-bit version), it does work.

So maybe there's a bug in the 64-bit version?

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Re: "Download + Load" not working properly on TinyCorePure64?
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2016, 04:58:53 AM »
In corepure64 are you downloading and loading Xorg-7.7 or using the default Xfbdev?

If you're using Xfbdev, you could try Xorg-7.7 - remember to exit to the prompt before loading Xorg-7.7 and then startx so that xorg-server is running before you try abiword.

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Re: "Download + Load" not working properly on TinyCorePure64?
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2016, 06:21:53 AM »
I have not loaded Xorg-7.7.tcz so far.

So, it's probably using the default Xfbdev.

Anyway, I've now used the apps browser to install Xorg-7.7.tcz via "Download + Load", then exited to the prompt and then restarted X via startx.

However:

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X -version
results in:

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Only console users are allowed to run the X server
So xorg-server obviously is not running.

Then I tried:

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sudo startx
That way xorg-server starts but I am getting a blank desktop with no dock...

Also tried to delete Xfbdev via:

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tce-audit delete Xfbdev
But Xfbdev is still installed according to:

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tce-status -i
...

Why is all this necessary in the 64-bit version? In TinyCore-7.2.iso (the 32-bit version) it works out of the box...

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Re: "Download + Load" not working properly on TinyCorePure64?
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2016, 06:41:26 AM »
So xorg-server obviously is not running.

Not so, it was running - you can double-check with "ps aux | grep X"

Note that you should not start X servers as root.

32-bit core uses Xvesa by default, which does not compile for 64-bit.

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Re: "Download + Load" not working properly on TinyCorePure64?
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2016, 07:01:38 AM »
Not so, it was running

No, it does not seem to be running. If it would be running, then the following command would work:

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X -version
This command also works just fine on my Ubuntu host.

But on TinyCorePure64-7.2.iso it says:

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Only console users are allowed to run the X server

Why would it say that if it would be running?

you can double-check with "ps aux | grep X"

Unfortunately I can't because I can not type a pipe symbol into the GUI terminal  :-\. Alt Gr + | key does not do anything...

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Re: "Download + Load" not working properly on TinyCorePure64?
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2016, 07:02:59 AM »
PS: And launching Abiword and Firefox and Oboard and so on... still does not work.

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Re: "Download + Load" not working properly on TinyCorePure64?
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2016, 07:12:38 AM »
from 32-bit core, but anyway...
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$ X -version
/usr/local/lib/xorg/Xorg.wrap: Only console users are allowed to run the X server
$ ps aux | grep X
 2531 root     /usr/local/bin/Xvesa -br -screen 1366x768x24 -shadow -mouse /dev/input/mice,5 -nolisten tcp -I

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Re: "Download + Load" not working properly on TinyCorePure64?
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2016, 07:22:15 AM »
Hi pq5190362. Not sure if this helps and i don't know anything about VM or 64-bit. Too bad you can't pipe. Regardless if TC is running Top is built-in, just run  Top  , sort as needed and see if Xorg running. Also simply list /tmp/tcloop (ls /tmp/tcloop) and you will see whether any Xorg is loaded. Or try running  which Xorg  , if it returns something like /usr/local/bin/Xorg it is running, if it returns empty then not. On my TC7 32-bit bare metal install with Xorg running  X -version  i get this:

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tc@box:~$ X -version
/usr/local/lib/xorg/Xorg.wrap: Only console users are allowed to run the X server

And with sudo:

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tc@box:~$ sudo X -version

X.Org X Server 1.18.4
Release Date: 2016-07-19
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 4.2.9-tinycore i486
Current Operating System: Linux box 4.2.9-tinycore #1999 SMP Mon Jan 18 19:42:12 UTC 2016 i686
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/tinycore/boot/vmlinuz nozswap showapps tce=sdb3
Build Date: 02 August 2016  04:04:36PM
 
Current version of pixman: 0.32.8
        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
        to make sure that you have the latest version.

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Re: "Download + Load" not working properly on TinyCorePure64?
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2016, 07:52:47 AM »
Ah, yeah, sudo did the trick:

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sudo X -version
Anyway, the apps still can not be launched, same error message as outlined in post #3.

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Re: "Download + Load" not working properly on TinyCorePure64?
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2016, 07:54:48 AM »
I just tried using Xfbdev and abiword works fine, so I'm not sure what to suggest  :(

Perhaps your iso download is corrupted?

BTW if only Xfbdev is loaded and running (and not Xorg-7.7), you will get this:
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$ X -version
sh: X: not found

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Re: "Download + Load" not working properly on TinyCorePure64?
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2016, 08:10:36 AM »
Unfortunately I can't because I can not type a pipe symbol into the GUI terminal  :-\. Alt Gr + | key does not do anything...

You could copy/paste the "|" symbol in the gui and make a simple script file:
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$ echo 'ps aux | grep X' > xcheck.sh
$ chmod +x xcheck.sh

..then you can run the script:
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$ ./xcheck.sh
 1750 root     /usr/local/bin/Xfbdev -mouse /dev/input/mice,5 -nolisten tcp -I

Edit: if you're stuck for a "|" to copy/paste, you could try this in a terminal:
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$ cat /usr/bin/desktop.sh
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