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slow boot, xorg-intel questions...

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nitram:
Troubleshooting slow boot, process of elimination it's related to xorg-intel. Don't think it's an xorg-intel issue as system runs fine, just that it's large (65mb) and takes time to process. Tried installing xserver-xorg-video-intel from Debian, smaller (51mb) but failed to boot graphics. Looks like the xorg-* SCEs are custom for dCore. Questions, thanks:

- Should Debian drivers like xserver-xorg-video-* be flagged as blocked?

- sce-searchprebuilt doesn't list the xorg-* related dCore drivers, should these be listed?

nitram:
Slow boot xorg-intel related. The original SCE is a 65mb whopper. Re-importing with Xprogs and graphics-3.16.6-tinycore dependencies still 64mb, so really no benefit. Unsquashed xorg-intel.sce, got delete happy, resquashed to only 30mb, reduced boot time by ~25 seconds! Really not practical as an automated update will re-build the extension. The diff exceeds the character limit so won't bother.

Granted some users may need some of this, noteable deletions include:
/lib/systemd/
/usr/include/
/usr/lib/gcc/
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconv/
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/perl/5.20/
/usr/lib/python2.7/
/usr/lib/python3/
/lib/xorg/modules/multimedia/
/usr/share/X11/locale/
/usr/share/bug/
/usr/share/doc-base/
/usr/share/dpkg/
/usr/share/gcc-4.9/
/usr/share/locale/
/usr/share/perl/5.20/
/usr/share/zoneinfo/


The largest culprits were :(
15mb   /usr/lib/gcc/
5mb   /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconv/
18mb   /usr/share/locale/
31mb   /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libLLVM-3.5.so.1


Relatively new to dCore so don't fully understand how the SCEs work:
- not sure why gcc is included
- thought locale was not included by default
- system runs fine without the 31mb libLLVM-3.5.so.1.
  (Modular compiler and toolchain technologies, whatever that is)


Has anyone developed a script to *strip* extensions during or after import? Might be fruitful to incorporate something like this in the import script but i have much to learn. Will probably dissect more extensions for comparison. Thanks.

sm8ps:
For comparison, on dCore-trusty 'xorg-intel.sce' comes at a respectable 40 mB without being based on any other extension.

Maybe you want to include gcc and others in a base extension that most other extension depend upon?

nitram:
Thanks for the feedback, i've only used dCore-jessie. 65mb -> 40mb is quite the difference. IMO every mb counts, difference between snappy boot and 'what's wrong with my system' or 'why is dCore slow'? Especially if the bloat adds no functionality. Could i get a rebuild of xorg-intel for dCore-jessie please? Makes a big difference in boot time, especially during testing, and would benefit others.

Been playing with other extensions, some are fairly lean and some not. Another good example is bsdgames-nonfree.sce. Original size 4.8mb, cursory optimization 1.69mb, huge difference. Game plays fine, just got rid of what appears to be bloat, diff:

--- Code: ------ bsdgames-nonfree.orig.list
+++ bsdgames-nonfree.trimmed.list
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Parallel unsquashfs: Using 1 processor
-385 inodes (2642 blocks) to write
+121 inodes (980 blocks) to write
 
 squashfs-root
 squashfs-root/cfg
@@ -128,275 +128,6 @@
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-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconv/UTF-16.so
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconv/UTF-32.so
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconv/UTF-7.so
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconv/VISCII.so
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconv/gconv-modules
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconv/gconv-modules.cache
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconv/libCNS.so
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconv/libGB.so
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconv/libISOIR165.so
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconv/libJIS.so
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconv/libJISX0213.so
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gconv/libKSC.so
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libform.so.5
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libform.so.5.9
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libmenu.so.5
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libmenu.so.5.9
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpanel.so.5
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpanel.so.5.9
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libtic.so.5
-squashfs-root/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libtic.so.5.9
 squashfs-root/usr/local
 squashfs-root/usr/local/postinst
 squashfs-root/usr/local/postinst/bsdgames-nonfree


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Think there may be something to adding an optimize option to sce-import that would remove certain directories or large files before squashing, like locale/,  gcc/ , likely i386-linux-gnu/  ... Maybe ask user if they want to remove any file flagged at >1-2 mb. Of course include warning may break extension, if so re-import without optimization option.

Jason W:
Here are two thoughts.  One is if you make a custom sce, remove the files in /usr/local/sce/xorg-intel if the sce is xorg-intel, and then the custom extension will not be updated with sce-update.

Second, is we can have a "nolocale" type of option, the locales in my main 1.8GB sce weighs in at 118M, so getting near 10% space savings. 

The xorg-* pacakges are meta collections of Debian package dependencies and not prebuilt, they just make it easy for new users to install a working xorg for their hardware.  xorg-all is the meta package to install all drivers so one does not have to worry about what hardware they have.

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