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Could be [tiny]core improved?
CNK:
--- Quote from: CentralWare on December 31, 2024, 04:32:38 AM ---
--- Quote from: CNK on December 31, 2024, 12:47:38 AM ---But this is a big advantage of Tiny Core! Simplicity to me means it's easy to understand everything, and not changing things all the time like most other distros is a big part of that.
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@CNK: Your version of "Simplicity" is based on your existing level of expertise. Someone without the knowledge of how shell scripts operate, for example, will be dumbfounded.
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But once they've leant shell scripts, or picked TCL in the first place because they do already understand its shell scripts, they don't have the burden of things changing completely. Like PiCore introducing Python scripts as well.
--- Quote from: CentralWare on December 31, 2024, 04:32:38 AM ---"...so why push dropping i486 compatibility..."
Not interested in dropping anything at all...
However, we (CentralWare) and TCL's Admins (TinyCoreLinux) are likely to be in the same boat.
We cannot "support" a hardware platform which we cannot replicate its environment.
I tossed my last 486 many years ago
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Since I became aware of that I have been aiming to test a beta version on my 486 before the stable release (not that I can guarantee to always have the time to do so before the stable release is done).
Other distros say unsupported to mean changing the compiler target architecture to a later minimum version, so it absolutely can't run on earlier CPUs. If it's just an issue with documentation, then I don't have a problem.
CentralWare:
@CNK: In my opinion, there's no sense for anyone to do away with an entire platform just to... what... save a few bytes in the kernel? For as long as Kernel Foundation maintains value in 486-land, we're good... just not trying to be overwhelmingly supportive of those antiques if we have no means to replicate user issues.
piCore introducing Python... I'm going to make an educated guess that if the core is being written partially in Python it's likely due to whom ever wrote them most likely feels more familiar with Python than Ash, Bash, etc. to accomplish a given task. ME, personally, I try to avoid building something that requires installing additional software (none of our Pi or Pi-Like boards have Python installed by default - or any other translator for that matter) and in some cases we'll rewrite a PY script as a shell script if it's reasonably easy to follow just to avoid installing third party apps.
@gadget42:
--- Quote ---also, re DSL...i was specifically referring to the "old dsl" that had a 50MB target...
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I know. :)
Slitaz Pizza Cooker: Cute! Still doesn't work, though.
mocore:
--- Quote from: CentralWare on January 01, 2025, 04:21:16 AM ---piCore introducing Python...
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afair ... it's micro python
--- Quote from: Greg Erskine on October 31, 2018, 06:19:43 PM ---BTW: piCore comes with microPython installed. It is used during the boot process to load extensions I believe!
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mocore:
yes!
care to try ... "executable autocompleteable "tcz.info" extension files " https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,27469.0.html
?
... It's only wafer thin.!
Rich:
Hi neonix
--- Quote from: neonix on December 24, 2024, 11:28:59 PM ---There should be few variants of Tiny Core.
* Micro Core with minimum 2 or more files.
* Tiny Core with only 2 files + mc + Dillo web browser 8MB (easy to boot through iPXE, PXE, pendrive)
- Xvesa variant with menu in boot loader 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768
- Xfbdev variant with menu in boot loader 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768
- Xorg variant (vesa)
- Xorg variant (autoconfig with dedicated driver)
* Core Plus iso with modern web browser + audio support + codecs
* TC recovery with only 2 files + Xvesa 32bit + Xfbdev 64bit + mc + gparted + testdisk + ddrescue + ntfs
* TC server with only 2 files (LiveCD with all files in RAM) configuration only by bootcodes or cloud configuration file
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Sure, we could could try to be all things to all people.
Or we could stick with the original philosophy:
--- Quote from: roberts on October 11, 2010, 07:47:08 PM ---Tiny Core is not a turnkey distribution. It is very different than most Linux distributions.
It is a minimal GUI environment that allows users to easily pick and choose their desired applications. ...
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