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Offline coreplayer2

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getflash11.tcz and Chromium
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2014, 09:45:08 PM »
512MB installed memory seems to be the minimum required to play Flash video in either Chromium or Firefox

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Re: getflash11.tcz and Chromium
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2014, 10:20:48 PM »
Halfway recent versions of flashplayer may be incompatible with CPU's of a certain age.
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Re: getflash11.tcz and Chromium
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2014, 11:13:25 PM »
Hi, Keith.

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I have been installing and playing on my old PC's. Mostly with less than a gig of ram.

Please let me know if you are finally able to play Youtube videos in TCL on any of them.

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I am leaning towards the explanation of limited ram.

Yes, I think Gerald may be right.

M.
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Re: getflash11.tcz and Chromium
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2014, 11:37:20 PM »
coreplayer2-

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512MB installed memory seems to be the minimum required to play Flash video in either Chromium or Firefox

I have 1GB of RAM on my computer, but I'm uncertain how much, if any, is free for Youtube videos.

Here's what Control Panel>System Stats>mem says with Chromium running and a Youtube page open (no video playing, obviously):
    MemTotal:        1024000 kB
    MemFree:          523620 kB
    Buffers:           51604 kB
    Cached:           211628 kB
    SwapCached:            0 kB
    Active:           265316 kB
    Inactive:         181768 kB
    Active(anon):     201668 kB
    Inactive(anon):    26480 kB
    Active(file):      63648 kB
    Inactive(file):   155288 kB
    Unevictable:           0 kB
    Mlocked:               0 kB
    HighTotal:        130696 kB
    HighFree:            244 kB
    LowTotal:         893304 kB
    LowFree:          523376 kB
    SwapTotal:        248176 kB
    SwapFree:         248176 kB
    Dirty:                 0 kB
    Writeback:             0 kB
    AnonPages:        183912 kB
    Mapped:            51884 kB
    Shmem:             44300 kB
    Slab:              40692 kB
    SReclaimable:      22452 kB
    SUnreclaim:        18240 kB
    KernelStack:        1744 kB
    PageTables:         1636 kB
    NFS_Unstable:          0 kB
    Bounce:                0 kB
    WritebackTmp:          0 kB
    CommitLimit:      760176 kB
    Committed_AS:     620936 kB
    VmallocTotal:     122880 kB
    VmallocUsed:        7384 kB
    VmallocChunk:     115124 kB
    AnonHugePages:         0 kB
    DirectMap4k:      909304 kB
    DirectMap4M:           0 kB

It looks like I've got half a gigabyte free, but I don't know enough about memory to make any real sense of these figures. What do you make of them?

Also, if it is a memory problem, would a swap file or partition help?

M.
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Re: getflash11.tcz and Chromium
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2014, 11:55:56 PM »
Hi, tinypoodle.

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Halfway recent versions of flashplayer may be incompatible with CPU's of a certain age.

Uh-oh, another uncertainty <grin>.

I was going to reply that I can watch Youtube videos with Firefox in WindowsXP and Chrome in PuppyLinux, but they aren't recent browsers and don't have the most recent versions of Flashplayer, so the fact that they're all using the same CPU doesn't mean much.

The weird thing is that the Youtube videos start up okay. Then they crash after about ten seconds. Doesn't really sound like a CPU issue. But, who knows?

I have yet to try the switching browsers and/or adding swap (if that's even possible), so I'm not ready to trash this old netbook.

M.
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Re: getflash11.tcz and Chromium
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2014, 01:58:00 AM »
if you have 1GB of RAM installed, then I expect the cpu wouldn't be limiting.   On the other hand a system with a max RAM of 512MB might be suspect for the latest Flash Player.

In a virtual machine with single core cpu and 512MB RAM I can run flash video with sound all day long in either Chromium or firefox using Xorg or Xvesa and flash v11.2    With a little less memory Firefox will just barely run flash video but Flash in Chromium will not likely run at all.   

if not a network problem, I believe a wipe and a re-install is next step.   I have seen this exact problem before, but can not remember how I fixed it, neither can I duplicate it with any of my current systems.   When the installation is suspect as the flash install is here, best not to keep chasing one's tail.   Better bite the bullet because I'm of the opinion a fresh install done right is the most expeditious method to resolve this dilemma


edit: Wrong thread

« Last Edit: May 04, 2014, 12:46:55 PM by coreplayer2 »

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Re: getflash11.tcz and Chromium
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2014, 12:43:16 PM »
I just realized there appears to be two threads on this subject and I'm getting the two crossed

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Re: getflash11.tcz and Chromium
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2014, 02:01:17 PM »
coreplayer2-

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I just realized there appears to be two threads on this subject and I'm getting the two crossed

They started out as two different subjects but have sort of fused.

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a system with a max RAM of 512MB might be suspect for the latest Flash Player.

You mean 512MB of installed RAM, not available RAM, right?

Can you give me any feedback on the system stats for memory that I posted above? Also on my query: if it's a memory problem, would a swap file or partition help?

Thanks.

Mike

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Re: getflash11.tcz and Chromium
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2014, 02:08:48 PM »
Gerald Clark-

Since you brought up the idea of insufficient RAM (thank you), can I get you to look at the system stats for memory that I posted above and tell me if you see any obvious problems?

Also, could you reply to my query about creating a swap file or partition as a way of offsetting any RAM insufficiency there might be? (I know nothing about the making or use of swap files and partitions.)

Your advice on these issues would be appreciated.

Cheers!

Mike
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Re: getflash11.tcz and Chromium
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2014, 03:23:29 PM »
No. Chromium works fine for me with 1G RAM and no swap.

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Re: getflash11.tcz and Chromium
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2014, 04:33:12 PM »
Chromium works fine for me with 512M RAM and no swap.

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Re: getflash11.tcz and Chromium
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2014, 05:32:48 PM »
The weird thing is that the Youtube videos start up okay. Then they crash after about ten seconds. Doesn't really sound like a CPU issue.


Correct, else they would not start to play at all.
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Re: getflash11.tcz and Chromium
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2014, 10:16:04 PM »
Chromium works well for me. It is youtube within it that doesn't work. Also, I had been able to run video on Facebook in Chromium, but today that is not working. It says I need to update my flash. I have not been successful at that and will have to attempt this tomorrow.

In the mean time I was getting some stats for you:

Before loading/launching Chromium:

MemTotal: 772852 kb
MemFree:  603352 kb

After launching Chromium:

MemTotal:       772852 kB
MemFree:        417168 kB

Running facebook on Chromium:

MemTotal:         772852 kB
MemFree:          383560 kB

After closing Chromium:

MemTotal:         772852 kB
MemFree:          464876 kB

Home to find some better answers tomorrow.
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Re: getflash11.tcz and Chromium
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2014, 10:13:44 AM »
Hi, Keith.

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Chromium works well for me. It is youtube within it that doesn't work.

Same here.

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Also, I had been able to run video on Facebook in Chromium, but today that is not working. It says I need to update my flash. I have not been successful at that and will have to attempt this tomorrow.

I'm also able to run videos on other websites, but never very well. There may be a combination of audio plus memory issues.

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In the mean time I was getting some stats for you

It doesn't look like you have a shortage of memory. Gerald Clark says it isn't a memory issue. He's probably right.

Mike
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Re: getflash11.tcz and Chromium
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2014, 10:14:46 AM »
All-

I will be absent from the forum for a while due to my trip to the States. I want to thank everyone here for your generous help. I'll be back as soon as time permits.

Cheers!

Mike
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