Why GNOME refugees love Xfce

[bmarkus]

Interesting reading

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/09/xcfe_for_gnome_refugees/

There are some untrue statements like "For word processors Xfce ships with Abiword which works just fine for those with basic word processing needs." in general article is OK.

[newbody]

I don't know much about Xfce I did boot into Xubuntu and compared with Lubuntu
to get a feel for it but i am lousy with anything so I fail to know why one would prefer
one to the other.

Cool that Linus Torvalds does like Xfce but does he say why it is better than LXDE?
I have tested Unity, Gnome, KDE, E17 and JWM and maybe IceBox something too

I have no idea what to prefer I am most used to JWM due to Puppy use it,

[konaexpress]

I know that this is an old thread but what the heck?!

As an OS X user and a short timer in Gnome, I like LXDE. Fore some reason XFCE drives me nuts.

-John

[vinnie]

Instead I like more xfce in place of lxde

[newbody]

I am so bad at using WMs that I fail to know which I like best.
Both claim to be light or is that lite maybe? tiny on resources.

I have both LinuxMint 12 with Gnome3? and LM12 with LXDE.
LXDE is much faster to load programs. Looks seems to be beyond
me to notice. When people speak about looks of a Desktop I have
no idea what they talk about.

Xfce seems a bit less bling? but that could be me not getting it.
Knoppix have LXDE if I remember. Looks okay apart from them
love to wave and water and explode and a lot of other gimmics

Fortunately I could turn it off.

I am not intelligent enough to use the latest versions of Core or CorePlus.
I barely could use 3.7 something and then I lost the more recent ones.
But I admire that you guys are at it and keep let it coming. So thanks.
I will leave this thread now.

[konaexpress]

@newbody WM's (window managers)? Don't let it bother you if you don't get the difference between LXDE, XFCE, and the rest. So you know, all of them are DE's (desktop environments). OpenBox, FLWM and FluxBox are WM's. What is the difference? At our level of use, who cares........  I know that there is a technical difference between them but most users identify the OS that they are using by what they see on the screen when the computer comes on. The true and want-to-be gear heads will go on and on about the difference but don't worry about that. Just use what you like, by what distro you like.

As far as being able to use Core or Core+?..........yea, it can be a bit tuff at first but that might be because you (me too) need the added benefits and things that a DE brings to the table and allows you to do things the way you are used to. To give yourself a boost of confidence and ease of use, go into the repos and look for lxde.tcz and load that up. I'm not sure if you need to load it as "On Boot" or the "On Demand" thing but this might help scooting around the OS a bit.

Don't worry about braking something in the OS. I break stuff all the time trying to figure out how it all works and doing "Hey Bubu, watch me do this" kinda stuff. You might try to take a snapshot of your install so that when/if you break it, you can reinstall it without having to go back and reinstall all your favorite apps and utilities.

-John

[newbody]

Thanks John for an encouraging friendly post.
Naah I am too confused to be a Core user. I go back to
using TCL on USB with an old 3.7 or 3.8 thing that have NTFS still.
NTFS got dropped. Sorry that is off topic. Another reason I can not
be a Core user. I am off topic all the time due to my ADHD.

So thanks for caring about me but I have too drop my relation to being
active on this forum. I will miss all those friendly souls that I exchanged
views with. SvOlli, Lee, Grandma and so on.

Anyway thanks!

[konaexpress]

Thanks John for an encouraging friendly post.
Naah I am too confused to be a Core user. I go back to
using TCL on USB with an old 3.7 or 3.8 thing that have NTFS still.
NTFS got dropped. Sorry that is off topic. Another reason I can not
be a Core user. I am off topic all the time due to my ADHD.

So thanks for caring about me but I have too drop my relation to being
active on this forum. I will miss all those friendly souls that I exchanged
views with. SvOlli, Lee, Grandma and so on.

Anyway thanks!

eerrrr........one word comes to mind............why?

Help me to help you.

-John

[roberts]

NTFS did not get dropped!
Witness the ntfs extensions listed when using AppBrowser' Search ntfs
Use these to gain full access to NTFS drives after boot.

Also available is the initrd version ntfs-3g.gz here http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/4.x/x86/contrib/

Add this to your boot loader to have immediate full access to NTFS.

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The only thing that was dropped was an installation script that was attempting to modify XP boot loader. It was determined best not to try to modify XP NTFS boot loader. Note however one can use grub4dos to achieve this.

[newbody]

Thanks RobertS.

I am so sorry. My remarks lead us to get off topic too so just to clarify
It is a well known fact that I fail to get the intentions behind even well versed English.
I did base my take on it from a text that you wrote.
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,12164.msg65220.html#msg65220

« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2011, 12:53:04 PM »

I don't want to deal with the installation of it anymore. XP is near end of life.
I have no desire to get Vista or Win7 or soon to be Win8. I tried my best to use grub4dos to be helpful for XP installs. But still some want nt boot loader mods and not grub4dos. That is too windows specific for me. I have not been a regular user of Windows since 2000. If anyone wants to take over the tcgrub4dos install program please feel free or the creation of an alternate install program. I have even contacted Svolli, a known master of NTFS, to see if he would want to take over the extension.  Otherwise I will be withdrawing that particular installation extension.

I did not understand the rest of the post
I did not dare to ask either because almost always one are referred to the documentation
and them are on a level I fail to understand. So what does it mean?

The old code that you RobertS  gave me:

title Tiny Core Linux
find --set-root /tce/boot/bzImage
kernel /tce/boot/bzImage quiet tce=hda1
initrd /tce/boot/tinycore.gz /tce/boot/ntfs-3g.gz

and that did work older versions but when tried it on
the later versions I don't remember which I tried but
then it failed and you told me the text above.

But as I said I fail to get what people say. So seen from my poor reading
it does say you gave up on booting on NTFS. But that is my poor reading then?

So I need to find somebody that can explain how to get it going on my noob level.

[bmarkus]

Guys,

ntfs has nothing to do with Xfce. Please use another threed and keep it clean.

[newbody]

Yes you are right. I only tried to explain.
so I started a new thread here
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,12840.0.html