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Re: Another thin client awaits a TC install
« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2011, 03:35:10 AM »
Was that with Xvesa or Xorg?
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Re: Another thin client awaits a TC install
« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2011, 02:26:49 PM »
Just using Xvesa at the moment curaga. Shame it doesn't seem to like 1280x1024: my monitor says 'Out of range', even though I know it handles that res. Maybe the refresh rate is too high, or could it be that Xvesa can't run that mode through the onboard graphics? Can't remember how to probe hardware for usable Xvesa modes. I'll have a look on the forum soon.

Anyway, got the sound working after a bit of research (Jumpers! That's so 1990s!), and everything's sweet at the mo. Just got to get a reliable pdf reader on there (mupdf seems a bit hit-and-miss and Foxit doesn't seem to work at all). Still, I'm a happy camper, even though the bits of the PC are spread liberally over my desk. Thanks for a such a fast, flexible OS guys.

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Re: Another thin client awaits a TC install
« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2011, 03:16:31 PM »
Hi Triophile
I don't see it in the info file, but I seem to remember reading that FoxitReader requires 24 bit color
to run.

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Re: Another thin client awaits a TC install
« Reply #48 on: December 23, 2011, 04:39:11 PM »
Mmmm, thought I was running 24-bit colour. In xsetup, I opted for 1024x768x24 (whatever number the option was). Are the x settings from xsetup persistent Rich?

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Re: Another thin client awaits a TC install
« Reply #49 on: December 23, 2011, 05:58:19 PM »
Hi Triophile
If you have a persistent /home they are, otherwise you need to run a backup before exiting.
If you install  Xorg-7.5-bin.tcz, you can then run
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xwininfo -rootThis is part of the information returned:
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  Width: 1024
  Height: 768
  Depth: 24
  Visual: 0x21
  Visual Class: TrueColor

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Re: Another thin client awaits a TC install
« Reply #50 on: December 24, 2011, 05:27:56 AM »
As far as I'm aware, I have a persistent home. I tried xwininfo -root after installing the Xorg file, and it's not working - just comes back 'File not found' IIRC. Sigh, never easy ;-)

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Re: Another thin client awaits a TC install
« Reply #51 on: December 24, 2011, 05:53:41 AM »
Hi Triophile
Try  /usr/local/bin/xwininfo -root
If that works, your path variable is messed up. If not, you may have installed the wrong extension.
Open Appbrowser, click on the  Xorg-7.5-bin.tcz  entry, then click on the Size tab. If there's a + sign
to the left of  Xorg-7.5-bin.tcz  in the right pane, then it's not installed.
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Re: Another thin client awaits a TC install
« Reply #52 on: December 24, 2011, 07:07:46 AM »
Unfortunately, that doesn't work either, and the correct file is shown as already installed. I'll uninstall it and try again.

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Re: Another thin client awaits a TC install
« Reply #53 on: December 24, 2011, 07:58:36 AM »
The Xorg file now works, and confirms that I'm running at 1024x768x24. Foxit still won't run though, after re-installation.

Off-thread slightly: can I only get 1280x1024 with Xorg, if the Xvesa settings for that resolution produce an out-of-range message on my monitor?

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Re: Another thin client awaits a TC install
« Reply #54 on: December 24, 2011, 01:29:06 PM »
Tried Xorg-7.5 again, and that gave me 1280x1024, but with the fairly large speed hit to be expected. I tried a GeForce 8400 GS under Xorg, and that was good, but a bit noisy with its fan.

What I could do with is a cheap, passively-cooled, low-power, well-supported PCIe graphics card which is guaranteed to run at 1280x1024x24 under Xvesa. Any suggestions?

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Re: Another thin client awaits a TC install
« Reply #55 on: December 24, 2011, 01:54:17 PM »
Hi Triophile
Not sure what to say, I'm running at 1024x768x24 using Xvesa and FoxitReader runs fine.
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but a bit noisy with its fan
Is that with the parts installed in a case or still spread out?

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Re: Another thin client awaits a TC install
« Reply #56 on: December 25, 2011, 05:09:16 AM »
The parts are still spread out, but the processor fan is very quiet anyway, and I put a 5.6V zener in the 12V line to the power supply's fan, which did a great job of making it quiet too, but still effective. The nVidia graphics card's fan just seems a bit overzealous by comparison. Might try a half-height ATI card I've got, which has a near-silent fan.

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Re: Another thin client awaits a TC install
« Reply #57 on: December 25, 2011, 06:05:24 AM »
While the ATI is a low-end IGP, it should have been faster than vesa. Are you sure you had full acceleration?

It needs both the graphics- extension and the firmware-radeon package to properly accel things.
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Re: Another thin client awaits a TC install
« Reply #58 on: December 25, 2011, 07:29:17 AM »
Hi Triophile
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I put a 5.6V zener in the 12V line to the power supply's fan
You used the right tool for the job.

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Re: Another thin client awaits a TC install
« Reply #59 on: December 25, 2011, 09:25:16 AM »
Thanks for that Rich :-)

Have a great Xmas, and thanks to you and all the other guys for your continuing help and advice.

Cheers, Jon.