Black screen TinyCorePure64-15.0 and Ventoy

[vito]

tl;dr:
post suggests trying acpi=noirq

"acpi=noirq" didn't resolve the issue, unfortunately.

I haven't tried booting in another way than Ventoy yet.

[mocore]

 

does it work properly without ventoy?
i also had a similar problem with ventoy+porteus. lucky for me, the boot worked correctly with the grub option.

standalone efi @ https://www.supergrubdisk.org/category/download/supergrub2diskdownload/super-grub2-disk-stable/
might be useful to test alt ldr?...

[Rich]

Hi vito

... To avoid doubts, Ubuntu and other Linux distros boot correctly on the same laptop and USB so the issue seems to be with TinyCorePure64 only. Fortunately, it is possible to reboot laptop by pressing ctrl+alt+del for a few seconds.

So other ISOs are booting correctly using Ventoy, right?

[vito]

So other ISOs are booting correctly using Ventoy, right?

Right.

[gadget42]

@vito, after some investigation it appears that Ventoy is currently failing for some users regardless of the operating system they are attempting to boot/install/live-run/etc

the version we have been experimenting with is:
(sha1 checksum 30bdd6023d81ea09ec5b19f5924ec92c56f96538  ventoy-1.0.99-linux.tar.gz)

so it isn't TinyCoreLinux failing...it is Ventoy. hopefully the Ventoy folks will get it sorted out presently.
(tried tcl-15.x, tcl-14.x, tcl-13.x, and tcl-12.x and ventoy brought them all up without a gui...so failure)

[vito]

does it work properly without ventoy?

No, there is the same problem both booting with and without Ventoy, unfortunately. I flashed TinyCorePure64-15.0.iso on SanDisk 128 GB pendrive (using Rufus 4.6, GPT partition scheme and trying both "write in ISO image mode" and "write in DD image mode"). In case of ISO image mode I saw GRUB2 command line only. In case of DD image mode, I saw the boot menu (with 4 items: tc, tcw, ...).

[GNUser]

Hi Vito. I have bootable USB sticks with TCL15 x86_64 that work just fine, and they go back in forth between computers with legacy bios and computers with UEFI.

My guess is that your problem stems from automated tools (e.g., Ventoy, Rufus, Balena, etc.) making assumptions about TCL, your computer (e.g., BIOS vs. UEFI), or your bootloader that are not true. But there are too many variables here to be sure what the problem is. I think ditching the automated tools and creating the bootable USB stick manually, one step at a time, is the best way.

The steps I followed to success are in this thread (first post by Juanito has everything you need for UEFI. For legacy BIOS, I discovered that the USB stick also needs a BIOS boot partition--see reply #51):

https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,19364.0.html

Note that I created my bootable USB sticks in 2024, so these instructions are still valid today despite Juanito having written this in 2015!

[vito]

I will try. However, the same TinyCorePure64-15.0.iso on SanDisk 128 GB USB-C pendrive (with Ventoy) boots successfully on another (older) laptop.

[polikuo]

There's a alternative bootloader, called syslinux, in case you're interested
How to make a legacy bios/uefi dual boot usb stick with syslinux

BTW, when I was still a noob, I used to use Pendrive Linux or LinuxLive USB Creator
I haven't use them for ages, so I can't say for certain if they still do excellent job with TC.

[vito]

Maybe newer version of GRUB solves the issue cause I got some progress by booting manually from GRUB 2.04 which is present in Ventoy 1.0.99 (by pressing <c> in a menu screen). Maybe NVMe compatibility is an issue (as it is in this newer laptop unlike the old one).

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grub>  set root=(loop,msdos1)
grub>  linux /boot/vmlinuz64 root=/dev/sda1
grub>  initrd /boot/corepure64.gz
grub>  boot


[vito]

There is the screenshot taken immediately after boot command entry - see attachment.

[vito]

...and the final result shown in the attached screenshot. There is some error and <enter> must be pressed in order to get command prompt.

[Rich]

Hi vito

... "acpi=noirq" didn't resolve the issue, unfortunately. ...

How about  acpi=off  ?

[gadget42]

hi vito, as per my previous reply(#19)

(tried tcl-15.x, tcl-14.x, tcl-13.x, and tcl-12.x and ventoy brought them all up without a gui...so failure)

since then i added "multivt" boot code manually after ventoy handed the boot off to the tcl boot screen and so i highlighted tcw and then manually added "multivt" bootcode so i had access to additional terminal sessions. then you can troubleshoot more easily.

somehow this version of ventoy is causing the normal tcl gui procedure to go awry and so we end up at the command prompt. on my laptop with intel graphics i was able to do the following:

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tce-load -wi Xorg-7.7 xf86-video-intel graphics-6.6.8-tinycore64 flwm aterm wbar
startx
during earlier attempts when i didn't use the "xf86-video-intel" and "graphics-6.6.8-tinycore64"(just "tce-load -wi Xorg-7.7 flwm aterm wbar) and then "startx" it would just leave me at a blank black screen(this is where having "multivt" enabled comes in handy so you can just ctl-alt-f1 to see what it is doing and then ctl-alt-f2 to use another terminal session for troubleshooting)

keep us posted on your progress!

20241201-0358am-cst-usa-modified: forgot to say to start the additional terminal sessions before conducting experiments(if you don't have them started before ending up at a blank screen they might not work. as always, ymmv)

[vito]

Hi vito

... "acpi=noirq" didn't resolve the issue, unfortunately. ...

How about  acpi=off  ?

acpi=off didn't solve the issue. It had some impact, though. Despite <ctrl>+<alt>+<delete> the laptop didn't reboot.