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Offline Sheleh

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Re: how to install tinycore into a RAM 32mb PC?
« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2011, 08:07:58 PM »
It is not in memory. In scatter mode installation TinyCore on a virtual machine works perfectly on 24mb of memory.
Googling I found that this error is "freeing up XX k unused kernel memory" comes from the fact that the kernel was compiled for i686 processors.

And now, a new question, where to get the kernel can work on Pentium I 166? How to compile it yourself?

Offline gerald_clark

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Re: how to install tinycore into a RAM 32mb PC?
« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2011, 10:17:21 PM »
Not true. Runs fine on 486 class machines.

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Re: how to install tinycore into a RAM 32mb PC?
« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2011, 04:06:39 AM »
Today I have a new problem. Tinycore does not run on real hardware (Toshiba Tecra 520CDT P166/32RAM).
extend the RAM.
http://www.toshiba-europe.com/bv/computers/products/notebooks/tecra520cdt/product.shtm
160MB seems possible.
AMD K6-IIIATZ 550MHz MB DFI K6xv3/+66
P4 HP DC7100 3GB 3GHz
Samsung NC10 boot from SD card port (via USB reader)
.. all TinyCore proofed

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Re: how to install tinycore into a RAM 32mb PC?
« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2011, 06:07:20 AM »
It's worked! I do not know how, I just reinstalled again and it worked.

Why such a system is unstable. The system is often after emergency restart does not load the GUI. Although the command line works. How to
start the desktop from the command line?
« Last Edit: August 21, 2011, 06:22:11 AM by Sheleh »

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Re: how to install tinycore into a RAM 32mb PC?
« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2011, 07:09:49 AM »
A scatter install by nature handles unexpected poweroffs worse. You need a fsck likely.

To start the desktop, "startx".
The only barriers that can stop you are the ones you create yourself.

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Re: how to install tinycore into a RAM 32mb PC?
« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2011, 07:16:46 AM »
Hello

what was the conclusion of this thread?

Is it easy to install Tiny Core into an old  machine with 32 megs or ram?
and slow cpu?

Do you simply do a "scatter install"?

what are the steps?

Once installed, is TCL then much use for running apps? Do you need to do any special things in order to make tcl run most typical apps?

i will check the thread

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Offline maro

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Re: how to install tinycore into a RAM 32mb PC?
« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2011, 04:19:01 PM »
... Is it easy to install Tiny Core into an old  machine with 32 megs or ram? ...
I guess how easy it "feels" depends on your level of experience.

... what are the steps? ...
I've done some detailed description for a splatter installation of MC (for an even more limited system) using a boot floppy not that long ago. I reckon if you can manage to perform the "installation" (i.e. install and configure a boot loader, copy the kernel and extract the initrd) on a RAM "starved" system you are done.

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Re: how to install tinycore into a RAM 32mb PC?
« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2011, 05:02:53 PM »
How I installed using a home computer with WinXP
If we have:
1. Computer with windows.
2. Physical hard drive connected via USB.

We should:
1. Download VirtualBox
2. Start Multycore on VirtualBox
3. Connect the drive to the USB, and connect it in VirtualBox as USB-device
4. Config network
5. Download cfdisk (In apps)
6. Partition sda in cfdisc. (USB HDD)
7. Reboot from multycore.iso
8. And run the following commands:

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mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda1
sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1
sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
mkdir /mnt/sda1/boot
mkdir /mnt/sda1/boot/extlinux
extlinux --install /mnt/sda1/boot/extlinux
cat /usr/share/syslinux/mbr.bin > /dev/sda #
cp /tmp/tcloop/syslinux/usr/local/share/syslinux/*.c32 /mnt/sda1/boot/extlinux
cp /mnt/hdc/boot/bzImage /mnt/sda1/boot
cd /mnt/sda1
sudo zcat /mnt/hdc/boot/tinycore.gz | sudo cpio -i -H newc -d


9. in /mnt/sda1/boot/extlinux we should create extlinux.conf and put in:
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DEFAULT tinycore
LABEL tinycore
KERNEL /boot/bzImage
APPEND root=/dev/hda1
if USB HDD is IDE or
Code: (bash) [Select]
DEFAULT tinycore
LABEL tinycore
KERNEL /boot/bzImage
APPEND root=/dev/sda1
if USB HDD is SATA

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Re: how to install tinycore into a RAM 32mb PC?
« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2011, 07:32:34 AM »
hello

and that gives you Microcore on the virtual machine. (Sheleh)

What about installing Tinycore as extra?

I was reading the Maro's instructions for putting tcl onto a low ram computer by using a boot floppy etc.....they are pretty good instructions (with a few tricky understandings)

my question is raised again......below

Do these procedures leave you with a TCL machine that is actually usable?... for running typical apps?

otherwise, what's the point in doing it?

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Offline Rich

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Re: how to install tinycore into a RAM 32mb PC?
« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2011, 08:55:59 AM »
Hi cast-fish
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otherwise, what's the point in doing it?
Maybe it's the satisfaction one gets in overcoming a challenge. Or possibly for the knowledge gained
from this learning experience.


Offline danielibarnes

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Re: how to install tinycore into a RAM 32mb PC?
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2011, 09:10:49 AM »
If you need to create a lot of virtual machines, then it is advantageous to use as little memory as possible. VMWare licensing is now based on amount of memory used, so less memory means more virtual machines.

As I mentioned before, I have a 16MB VM which serves static web pages. You could have a sizable server farm on just a 4GB machine.

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Re: how to install tinycore into a RAM 32mb PC?
« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2011, 09:12:05 AM »
hello

oh right.

i see

The challenge can greatly help your learning of Linux and tcl. Also you could then teach others about tcl by using
that demonstration machine. Perhaps all terminal programs will work?. Say a tool like
mpg123?

i was just interested to know, in practical terms, what "usability" you could get out of these
low ram tcl machines?

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