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Offline nick65go

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proper updated info with tags GUI FLTK GTK1 CLI
« on: March 09, 2023, 07:25:33 AM »
A search in TC14 for tag=GUI in tags.db.gz [29.4 KB] will hit:
- none of FLTK: flwm, fluff, dillo, flaxpdf, flcalc, flviwer, flburn
- nor GTK1 applications like: beaver, xmms, gFTP,
- neither GTK2 applications like: xarchiver, netsurf, mpaint, gpicview, xfe
- neither GTK3 applications like: abiword,

Could we have proper tcz.info ?; with updated field TAG, to contain tags like: GUI FLTK GTK1 GTK2 GTK3 CLI LIB
I mean to allow to an user to quickly ask for:
- show me only GK1 apps, or all GTK2 apps
- show me all GUI apps, but not any CLI apps
- show me all CLI apps, but not any GUI LIB dev, doc

It is not a big time consuming to have them on server (one time work). At least starting with TC14.
But the benefit is that we could know / search / filter for how many GUI appls are in tcz Repository.

And then to test them and report in the forum which GUI application does NOT work in Xvesa / Xfbdev in TC14. : like gnumeric, vlc, firefox, etc.

FYI: the additional storage size for server will be maxim 2844 [infos] x 4 [char] <= 12000 bytes (11.7 KB) not-gzip-ed.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2023, 07:32:12 AM by nick65go »

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Re: proper updated info with tags GUI FLTK GTK1 CLI
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2023, 08:21:33 AM »
Looking into each line of tags.db, it seams that there is an arbitrary /random numbers of characters to separate some.tcz from its multi-tags-list. Like few tabs (0-3) + few spaces(0 - 12), so adding a word like GTK1 or FLTK, where/if they are missing, and removing EXTRA tabs / spaces (keep just one), then the size will be even lower.

But I do not know the process, maybe tags.db was automatically obtained by extracting field TAG (from same.tcz.info), so my work will be useless, for others.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2023, 08:24:14 AM by nick65go »

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Re: proper updated info with tags GUI FLTK GTK1 CLI
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2023, 12:14:50 PM »
Hi nick65go
... Could we have proper tcz.info ?; with updated field TAG, to contain tags like: GUI FLTK GTK1 GTK2 GTK3 CLI LIB ...
That was basically attempted about 10 years ago. Here are 8 pages of arguments over how
to implement it, including arguments against requiring any standardized tags:
https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,12499.0.html

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Re: proper updated info with tags GUI FLTK GTK1 CLI
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2023, 01:37:10 PM »
So after 10+ years (from 2012 up to 2023) a new potential user of Tinycore can NOT yet quickly decide why to prefer this "distro" instead of another more popular one. Because the power of a "distro" is in its applications. Without proper apps any distro is just a rescue tool (kernel + busy-box + primitive tools: partition, format, mount, copy etc).

I will read the 8 pages. I can even make my own info /tags categories. The problem is NOT for me, it is possible a stop case for a new user. If was not solved until now then it does not mean that it is not solvable. Could be the not-alignment between "owners" /developers of TC.

PS: It happened also to me this "phenomenon" [lets name it ageing, or don't matter for me anymore, or too much work and less reward]:  first I liked very much the FLTK apps, I still do. Then the more I know the less I need a GUI apps, even an efficient one like FLTK. [why have a datetool, or an editor, when I can just do it in console /shell).

Sometime I wander why do I need a TC? Initially was its fast speed and its small size. Then I lost dillo (because http -> httpS + java scripts) and Xvesa does not allow gnumeric; So, if is Xorg-3D + Firefox then diff starts to fade versus other distros. Not totally yet.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2023, 02:03:18 PM by nick65go »

Offline gadget42

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Re: proper updated info with tags GUI FLTK GTK1 CLI
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2023, 03:29:12 AM »
[ramble]re: "8 pages"

ref: https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,12499.0.html

wit: it is 107 posts from five weeks back in 2012
(as of 20230310-0505am-cdt-usa)

also re: "potential new users"
i wonder how many people used damnsmalllinux back in its heyday?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damn_Small_Linux

remember when we used to hand those out to anyone vaguely interested...
(back then dillo had a better chance of rendering more webpages legibly)[/ramble]
The fluctuation theorem has long been known for a sudden switch of the Hamiltonian of a classical system Z54 . For a quantum system with a Hamiltonian changing from... https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,25972.msg166580.html#msg166580