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8X GNUMERIC CRASH
« on: June 23, 2021, 08:26:04 AM »
8X GNUMERIC CRASH

First it says this a dozen times...oops...your server throws an error when posted. Will retry this post in TC3x

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Re: 8X GNUMERIC CRASH
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2021, 08:30:00 AM »
You could try attaching the error.

Which x server are you using?

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Re: 8X GNUMERIC CRASH
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2021, 08:34:31 AM »
8X GNUMERIC CRASH

Reposting with Firefox 3X also throws an error.

I will try this one line at a time.

First it says this a couple of dozen times

** (gnumeric:2960): CRITICAL **: go_conf_get_node: assertion 'parent || key' failed
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all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
you'll hold near to your heart
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Re: 8X GNUMERIC CRASH
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2021, 08:36:49 AM »
Then it spits this block which is causing your TC NET server to choke when posted as a single paragraph - no line breaks - as it displays when the crash happens.

I will break it up.


(gnumeric:2960): Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'gnumeric' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)'.
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play in the sandbox together
all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
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Re: 8X GNUMERIC CRASH
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2021, 08:37:25 AM »
This is part of the same error above:

  (Details: serial 1426 error_code 2 request_code 139 (RENDER) minor_code 26)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the GDK_SYNCHRONIZE environment
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Re: 8X GNUMERIC CRASH
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2021, 08:38:01 AM »
This is part of the same error above:

   To debug your program, run it with the GDK_SYNCHRONIZE environment
   variable to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
Trace/breakpoint trap
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Re: 8X GNUMERIC CRASH
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2021, 08:40:06 AM »
I tried posting that LOG in the forum - and attaching it to the email to you - while I was booted with 8.2.1 and the tc.net forum and mail web pages threw a server error every time until I removed the gnumeric error.

This morning's experiment is to

a) Grab the gnumeric error while booted in 8.2.1 - it doesn't happen in tc3x
b) Reboot with my lil gem tc3x firefox 4.0
c) Come back to tc.net
d) Attempt to post the error to the forum

If this works (IT DID NOT UNTIL I BROKE UP THE ERROR LOG) it proves tc3x is stable, it works - I am the tc3x cheerleader to be sure.

Since I have a full office there, including filezilla, apache2 (which I used to run a server for 200 domains) - and everything else except VLC and Firefox for audio and videos and upgraded SSL I am going to rebuild my distro and test with QEfriggingMU to sandbox VLC and Firefox and do the rest in TC3X which always works, never crashes and looks better (colors and fonts)...a twisted environment indeed.

This would have the advantage of isolating/sandboxing Firefox/internet activities which is kind of attractive, but have the disadvantage of chewing a hole in memory running two operating systems, but have some of the cache/swapping advantages QEMU brings, and has the advantage of using MUCH LESS memory given the much smaller size of TCZs in TC3x. 

EVERYTHING in 7x 8x 9x 10x is huge - bloated, compared to TC3X and I am tired - really tired - of years and years fighting the upgraded distros when TC3X works all day long and never hiccups except audio and video.

I will also try the upgraded TC 9x since in an earlier post Juanito said gnumeric is fine there, but as I believe QEMU can boot an 8x or 9x or whatever (I have done that), this method of only using TC 7-10x to get audio and video and SSL internet "appears" attractive at this early stage in the morning.

I'd love to add modern SSL and modern ALSA and PULSE to Firefox 4.0 and older VLC but that experiment is beyond my capabilities and patience I fear

The more I think about SANDBOXING / ISOLATING modern Firefox-ESR and VLC with QEMU and using the small, tight, fast TC 3X office utilities in the main boot host the more hopeful I am.

Perhaps I need more coffee....
« Last Edit: June 23, 2021, 08:58:14 AM by grandma »
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play in the sandbox together
all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
you'll hold near to your heart
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Re: 8X GNUMERIC CRASH
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2021, 08:50:45 AM »
In answer to WHAT X I am using.

Rich mentioned that when I got a BIG X on the desktop it meant X hadn't loaded.

I don't know what that means  :o, but assume it had something to do with Xlibs ????

If that is the same X you are referring to then let me check and get that....

With 3X I see:

-rwxrwxrwx    1 root     root       2854912 Jun 21 17:08 Xlibs.tcz
-rwxrwxrwx    1 root     root        221184 Jun 21 17:08 Xorg-7.5-lib.tcz
-rwxrwxrwx    1 root     root       1662976 Jun 21 17:08 Xorg-fonts.tcz
-rwxrwxrwx    1 root     root        847872 Jun 21 17:08 Xprogs.tcz
-rwxrwxrwx    1 root     root        372736 Jun 21 17:08 Xvesa.tcz

In 8.2.1 I see

-rwxrwxrwx    1 root     root          4096 Jun 23 00:26 Xorg-7.7-lib.tcz
-rwxrwxrwx    1 root     root        114688 Jun 23 00:26 Xprogs.tcz
-rwxrwxrwx    1 root     root        364544 Jun 23 00:26 Xvesa.tcz
-rwxrwxrwx    1 root     root       1261568 Jun 23 00:26 Xlibs.tcz

Juanito mentioned USE 9X FOR GNUMERIC

So I may experiment with that AFTER testing to see if I can "sandbox" VLC and TC 8X FIREFOX to get audio and video working in QEMU.

The more I think I can have the small, fast, reliable TC 3X office and a QEMU sandbox for audio and video the more I like it. I am a sick puppy.
~ Luv Grandma
"When children of all nations
play in the sandbox together
all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
you'll hold near to your heart
until long after you're my age.

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Re: 8X GNUMERIC CRASH
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2021, 08:53:05 AM »
That sort of error typically comes from using the tiny x servers Xvesa/Xfbdev - are you using/did you try using Xorg-7.7?

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Re: 8X GNUMERIC CRASH
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2021, 02:24:22 PM »
I'm running 8.2.1 and Xorg-7.7-lib.tcz is in tce/optional
No other Xorg Lib files exist.

So I assume when Rich said the FAT X ON THE DESKTOP MEANS X DID NOT LOAD he was talking about this library?
~ Luv Grandma
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play in the sandbox together
all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
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Re: 8X GNUMERIC CRASH
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2021, 05:54:53 PM »
Hi grandma
... So I assume when Rich said the FAT X ON THE DESKTOP MEANS X DID NOT LOAD he was talking about this library?
That's not what I said.

This is what I said:
... That big X means X is loaded but you don't have a window manager loaded. If you prefer JWM, load that instead. ...

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Re: 8X GNUMERIC CRASH
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2021, 01:33:56 AM »
I tested TinyCorePure64-8.2.1.iso in qemu

* Xfbdev - gnumeric does not start
* Xorg-7.7 - gnumeric starts

Note also that gnumeric will not start using Xvesa with TinyCore-8.2.1.iso
« Last Edit: June 24, 2021, 01:38:50 AM by Juanito »

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Re: 8X GNUMERIC CRASH
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2021, 06:01:25 PM »
Thank you Rich.

That makes sense; I get dropped to command line - everything works - but no editor (display) etc.
~ Luv Grandma
"When children of all nations
play in the sandbox together
all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
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Re: 8X GNUMERIC CRASH
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2021, 10:12:21 AM »
I stopped using Gnumeric for 9X - changed ALL office utilities to LibreOffice which seems to work well enough.
~ Luv Grandma
"When children of all nations
play in the sandbox together
all morning-all day-all week, and
one fine sunny day; all year long ...
... then war will become an ancient memory
and Grandma can knit that sweater
you'll hold near to your heart
until long after you're my age.