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Offline xor

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surprise; debian got smart at last! Version running on RAM !!! :) :D

I think this will speed up the dCore project a little bit more.

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« Last Edit: December 27, 2020, 05:44:04 AM by xor »

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Re: surprise; debian got smart at last! Version running on RAM !!! :) :D
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2020, 07:27:53 AM »
Pretty sure this isn't new: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_live_CDs. A live CD changes the boot environment, but for all the live CD's I've tried the packages were the same as the traditional install.

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Re: surprise; debian got smart at last! Version running on RAM !!! :) :D
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2020, 08:31:43 AM »
Hi xor
No surprises and nothing new.
Being able to run from RAM and ejecting the CD/DVD has been possible for many years now.
Tinycore has that option too.

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Re: surprise; debian got smart at last! Version running on RAM !!! :) :D
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2020, 09:12:12 AM »
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https://manpages.debian.org/testing/live-tools/live-toram.1.en.html

NAME
live-tools - System Support Scripts


DESCRIPTION
live-tools contains additional support scripts for live systems.


TOOLS
live-tools currently contains the following tools.


live-update-initramfs
writes out updated kernel and initrd images to the live media. This wrapper replaces the update-initramfs command provided by the initramfs-tools package.

live-update-initramfs-uuid
updates UUID in an existing initramfs image.

live-toram
copies running system to RAM in order to eject the live media.

live-system
determines if running system is a live system.

live-persistence
switches a non-persistent system to using persistence at runtime.


Pretty sure this isn't new: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_live_CDs. A live CD changes the boot environment, but for all the live CD's I've tried the packages were the same as the traditional install.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2020, 09:20:33 AM by xor »

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Re: surprise; debian got smart at last! Version running on RAM !!! :) :D
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2020, 11:20:51 AM »

debian live and debian use apt
which integrates the application into the blob 
the application must be then manipulated by a package manager

dcore makes a standalone extension
which can be manipulated independently

thus dcore (and tinycore) is superior to debian  live
and all other systems i have used

thank you jason w for dcore

ulfr   


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Re: surprise; debian got smart at last! Version running on RAM !!! :) :D
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2020, 09:56:00 PM »
I approach the event with positive constructive criticism.
(I never approached with a destructive perspective.)

To be objective;
dCore is like a stand-alone debian storage drawer,
Debian's feature for me; essentially it means (+) 60,000 application packages.

More important than the strength of the kernel;
updating the kernel and applications with the same GCC.
only for this reason there are perceived issues as the lower kernel version of the same application as the upper kernel version.

but the truth is GCC compatibility is more important than kernel
Looking at the event in this respect; more important points emerge in terms of performance! ,

TCL has a more unique structure. :)
I don't think dCore offers much more than an alternative package drawer. ;]


debian live and debian use apt
which integrates the application into the blob 
the application must be then manipulated by a package manager

dcore makes a standalone extension
which can be manipulated independently

thus dcore (and tinycore) is superior to debian  live
and all other systems i have used

thank you jason w for dcore

ulfr
« Last Edit: December 29, 2020, 10:00:54 PM by xor »