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Offline thl04

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Re: KernelPanic (new non!-user help please)
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2019, 12:55:13 PM »
So let's assume that 6.4.1 is working. At least it is able to give us hardware info.
You will need net access to be able to load some extensions. So does your box have wired internet or wireless is the only possibility?

And one little question. Have You got http://tinycorelinux.net/book.html?

I am not sure it(they) did,
I tried :-
TinyCore-6.4.1.iso  & CorePlus-6.4.1.iso
they both give a command prompt, but I thought CP would have booted to a desktop ?

However, yes. lets assume - I'm game for anything :) - I have wired connect to a router wired to LandLine.

I did
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debug text
dmesg > dmesg.txt
"
on CP6.4.1
and LS at the prompt, showed it in a directory NEW that I created
(LS does not show any other file structure)
no way to save it to anywhere, and it was not persistent, it was gone on a subsequent reboot.
I think I have bitten off more than I can chew here lol!

 I have both tinycorelinux.pdf and corebook.pdf

Edit Oooops ^^ I meant /new/dmesg.txt
« Last Edit: August 19, 2019, 12:59:20 PM by thl04 »

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Re: KernelPanic (new non!-user help please)
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2019, 01:04:23 PM »
Hi, thl04!
You say you tried both TinyCore and CorePlus, but you don't mention what boot menu entries you tried.
As I can understand every entry drops you to console?

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Re: KernelPanic (new non!-user help please)
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2019, 01:13:50 PM »
Are You booting from cd or flash drive?
To work further you need to install TinyCore somewhere. In your case i would prefer to install it to (another) flash drive.
So You need to boot to console (tcw boot menu entru?).
Check your inet:
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ifconfig

For example on my box i have:

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tc@box:~/c/pentix$ ifconfig
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback 
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
          RX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:100 (100.0 B)  TX bytes:100 (100.0 B)

wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
          inet addr:10.42.0.250  Bcast:10.42.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:309677 errors:0 dropped:47 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:88044 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:429997913 (410.0 MiB)  TX bytes:7773079 (7.4 MiB)


Wich means that my wired eth0 controller is out of net (no inet addr) and i am connected via wifi interface wlan0 and my network is
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          inet addr:10.42.0.250  Bcast:10.42.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0

Check this  to move further

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Re: KernelPanic (new non!-user help please)
« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2019, 01:16:30 PM »
Hi, thl04!
You say you tried both TinyCore and CorePlus, but you don't mention what boot menu entries you tried.
As I can understand every entry drops you to console?
Ah! Good question, I think maybe only the top entry in both.
(I think it was TC10 that I tried all 4, and CP10 that I tried the first 3, all boot fails)

I will have to reflash one of the 6.4.1 and try again to answer correctly, :( sorry.

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Re: KernelPanic (new non!-user help please)
« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2019, 01:25:07 PM »
My feeling is that You have issue wit video hardware, so attempt to choose console aimed entries, without any desktop proposed.

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Re: KernelPanic (new non!-user help please)
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2019, 01:26:19 PM »
Are You booting from cd or flash drive?
All Tiny operations have been with 16GB USBflash
(the only time I have used CD and DVD have been when I referred to my legacy attempts with Puppy, Knoppix & Mint )

Thanks for your code/instructions, I'll give them serious thought soon when domestic allows !

A thought for now :- this HPdesktop only has CD/DVD ROM, could it be that recent (not my legacy) live persistent linux need to see a RW hardware present , even though it is not used for USBflash ??? If you see what I mean.

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Re: KernelPanic (new non!-user help please)
« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2019, 01:27:26 PM »
CorePlus is absolutely needed if there is no wired internet, as it includes wifi modules and firmware. In Your case TinyCore is sufficient.

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Re: KernelPanic (new non!-user help please)
« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2019, 01:32:48 PM »

A thought for now :- this HPdesktop only has CD/DVD ROM, could it be that recent (not my legacy) live persistent linux need to see a RW hardware present , even though it is not used for USBflash ??? If you see what I mean.

No need for CD/DVD RW, TC can be easily (using prebuilt extension tc-install) installed on flash drive. I use such a drive everywhere, even with different TC versions on it, including 6.4.1. It works on very old motherboards.

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Re: KernelPanic (new non!-user help please)
« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2019, 01:49:37 PM »
TC can be easily (using prebuilt extension tc-install) installed on flash drive. I use such a drive everywhere,
Yes, that is what I expected.
It was just a momentary silly thought !
Of course a lot of modern m/c dont even have optical drives, so any such glitch would have been spotted by now !! silly me.

(Bit of a coincidence that the working usbflash TC10 is on my Dell laptop which does have an RW !)
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Re: KernelPanic (new non!-user help please)
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2019, 02:05:18 PM »
Hi thl04
... Of course a lot of modern m/c dont even have optical drives, so any such glitch would have been spotted by now !! ...
What is  m/c  an abbreviation for?

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Re: KernelPanic (new non!-user help please)
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2019, 02:39:19 PM »
What is  m/c  an abbreviation for?
Ah, sorry,,,, machine.

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Re: KernelPanic (new non!-user help please)
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2019, 04:30:52 PM »
Arrrgghhhh!
So I went  to re-flash TC 6.4.1 on my USBstick ready to do the ifconfig test and ,,,
flashed the wrong drive !!

I suppose it was bound to happen sometime :( I had forgotten that I had the SD card from my camera in a reader powered up on a 4-port hub.
It just happened to be 16GB the same as my USBstick :( hence my stupidity.
Only a months worth of pictures evaporated, it could have been worse if it had been the C: eeeek.

However, clouds and silver linings :-
I now have a working TC6.4.1 on an SDcard LOL!
Yep, it booted to a commandline and carried on going to a desktop :)
A pretty desktop with bouncy icons along the bottom , terminal, notepad, etc.

Haha, so now I have to
A) find out what is wrong with my 3 USB sticks that I have been using, they work with RaspberryPi Jessie, but nothing else.
B) get into reading the tinycore book and experimenting with Linux! Yea!
It isnt persistent yet but I will have to learn that bit ,,,,,, tomorrow,,,,  it is 1/2past midnight local and I am not touching another thing tonight :) for fear of what else I might damage.

Thanks for all your helps and putting up with me.

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Re: KernelPanic (new non!-user help please)
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2019, 04:49:47 PM »
So with TC 6.4.1 you have graphics? Great. So you can check inet, install browser and write to forum directly from the working system.

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Re: KernelPanic (new non!-user help please)
« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2019, 10:46:30 PM »
Probably your usb sticks (or the machine's usb ports/controller) are just slow, and for 6.4.1 you'd just need a longer waitusb= timeout.
The only barriers that can stop you are the ones you create yourself.

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Re: KernelPanic (new non!-user help please)
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2019, 02:04:49 AM »
>>and write to forum directly from the working system.

and Lo! here I am login on 6.4.1 on one of the USBsticks ( not the SDcard anymore, more about that in another post soon) on Chromium via Apps & Cloud. good init :)

>> waitusb= timeout

tried that a while back, the default is 5 and I tried 20 without effect :(

All looking good.
Next on the agenda : see if I can move back to TC10 and get it working with my new-found method.
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