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Offline Johnson9

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Re: Screen rotate - can't deal
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2018, 11:05:32 AM »
I am sorry for post after post but I can't edit the last one (don't have the option to do it)

Some years before on this computer was installed Debian 6 and the screen was rotated - but I do not know the person who did it.

However that allows think that the equipment is able to handle the rotation of the screen.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2018, 11:07:35 AM by Johnson9 »

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Re: Screen rotate - can't deal
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2018, 12:13:59 PM »
Hope you have added "RandRotaion" line  for screen rotation :

I feel very stupid but my xorg.conf file was created by me and is empty. (It's hard to admit but I dont have "RandRotation" in this file)

I searched for xorg.conf file in /usr/local/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ but it isn't there.

When I tried this steps:
Shutdown -> exit to prompt
Putting command cd /etc/X11 next Xorg -configure in location /root/ was created file xorg.conf.new
but when I try copy it with command cp /root/xorg.conf/new /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart the computer I receive error failed in waitforX


Command X -configure doesn't work

(in /etc/ I create folder X11 and file xorg.conf
sudo -s
cd  /etc/
mkdir X11
touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf

and add etc to file .filetool.lst in opt folder)

I hope that I did not anger you with my ignorance.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2018, 12:20:33 PM by Johnson9 »

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Re: Screen rotate - can't deal
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2018, 04:42:00 PM »
From your attached screen shots , I noticed that you do'nt have proper /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
1) Using "sudo" ,  rename or delete above file if it is already present.
2) Then using "sudo" ,   copy the sample xorg.conf.vesa file bundled with Xorg package. 
3) Make required changes in Device section , as already mentioned above in a sample Device section  . If not sure about your card or driver try to use "intel"
 4) Backup
 5) logout and login again to terminal mode ( not GUI terminal )  and try "xrandr" .

**** Also I would suggest to go thru following Tinycore discusions to know the details and errors in  "xrandr" command :
  1) http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=14424.0
2) http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=19397.15
3) http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=12240.0

Note : You may also ggl for using Screen Rotation and xrandr command in Xvesa mode.

Best Luck ! :)

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Re: Screen rotate - can't deal
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2018, 03:09:51 AM »
Regarding to the last post

1. - file deleted
2. - I stuck on this point.

I can't find any xorg.conf file. (photo with name 1 from attachments)


Regarding to the older messages

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xrandr --newmode "1200x900_60.00"   88.50  1200 1272 1392 1584  900 903 907 934 -hsync +vsync
Don't work. (I tried it also in puppy live cd). https://imgur.com/a/cdZs2d8

This photo https://imgur.com/a/cTgvFMu shows result of
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xrandr command from puppy.

xorg.conf file from puppy https://imgur.com/a/f7fYEnX

Puppy live CD create xorg.conf file automatically and in this file is line with
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"RandRotaion" (line 38)

In a moment I will try to check other live cd distros and suggested commands which I haven't checked yet

I will let you know about effects.


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Re: Screen rotate - can't deal
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2018, 04:03:43 AM »
** You have to manually add the following line after the Device section where the driver is listed. A sample  "nvidia" Section of /etc/X11/Xorg.conf file is shown  , where .... option is included .***
 
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Section "Device"
Identifier     "Device1"
Driver         "nvidia"
VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
BoardName      "GeForce GT 430"
BusID          "PCI:4:0:0"
Screen         "1"
Option "RandRRotation" "on"
EndSection

I added this to the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf that I created myself - there was nothing else in it

The result was failed in waitforX


I also tried this command

.... In the meanwhile try following to find any clues if the command works :
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xrandr --verbose -o left

fbset -i -v

Result in this photo https://imgur.com/a/AhDFWUR



EDIT

Report about graphics card from puppy https://imgur.com/a/0SxmXaC if I understand correctly, my card only supports vesa ??
« Last Edit: June 27, 2018, 04:35:22 AM by Johnson9 »

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Re: Screen rotate - can't deal
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2018, 04:47:38 AM »
In puppy live CD I add line
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Option "RandRRotation" "on" to file xorg.conf in section Device and next I try some command https://imgur.com/a/Wk8mreX without success.


EDIT:
.  The  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file with this config gave success in one case  :  ....
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Section "Device"     
Identifier "Card0"     
Driver "wsfb"     
Option "Rotate" "CW"
EndSection


I tried this in puppy  - no success
« Last Edit: June 27, 2018, 05:02:37 AM by Johnson9 »

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Re: Screen rotate - can't deal
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2018, 04:50:39 AM »
LOL ... :)
All your Imgur photos looks like blank screen ! What do'nt you just copy / paste  actual errors in your posts ?

Also why you do'nt copy / paste the contents of automatically generated xorg.conf file from Puppy into your TCL's /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ?

Also try to search in prvs TCL forum mesages , when and why "failed in waitforX" message appears and what is boot codes and booting process ! Also pl read Wiki for some basics how to setup many things ! Have you gone thru 3 links provided in my prvs post ?

But keep trying to explore TCL and linux , many are here to help !
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Re: Screen rotate - can't deal
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2018, 05:34:27 AM »
LOL ... :)
All your Imgur photos looks like blank screen ! What do'nt you just copy / paste  actual errors in your posts ?

I think that photo is a good method because you can see what I wrote in to command line and check if I did not make a mistake in the command

I check Imgur links before paste it here ;/ they work

But I copy it to postimage (maybe here photos will work)
https://imgur.com/a/cdZs2d8 - https://postimg.cc/gallery/2y50in67m/
https://imgur.com/a/cTgvFMu - https://postimg.cc/image/h770fk0q9/
https://imgur.com/a/f7fYEnX - https://postimg.cc/gallery/3jksn9mia/
https://imgur.com/a/AhDFWUR - https://postimg.cc/image/eedsvl5jl/
https://imgur.com/a/0SxmXaC - https://postimg.cc/gallery/1wrg7o20i/
https://imgur.com/a/Wk8mreX - https://postimg.cc/gallery/29x32g5de/



Also why you do'nt copy / paste the contents of automatically generated xorg.conf file from Puppy into your TCL's /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ?

I would probably try to do this if the rotation on puppy worked - but here it also did not work (I can not rotate the screen)

Also try to search in prvs TCL forum mesages , when and why "failed in waitforX" message appears and what is boot codes and booting process ! Also pl read Wiki for some basics how to setup many things ! Have you gone thru 3 links provided in my prvs post ?

But keep trying to explore TCL and linux , many are here to help !
:)

I read them, but I did not understand everything. I will read them one more time, and after that I will look for topics about error "failed in waitforX"

Thank you for your time and patience
« Last Edit: June 27, 2018, 06:01:15 AM by Johnson9 »

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Re: Screen rotate - can't deal
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2018, 07:38:18 AM »
If you're using Openbox, things can be made easy:
Openbox - xrandr pipe menu for resolution and stuff
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,19886.msg123419.html
« Last Edit: June 27, 2018, 07:39:53 AM by Misalf »
Download a copy and keep it handy: Core book ;)

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Re: Screen rotate - can't deal
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2018, 11:23:50 AM »
I think , solution to "Failed to ..
 gamma ... default etc"  error and setting higher resolution for your screen , is already given by jaunito  by loading  xf86-video-ati.tcz  in this thread :
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=21461.0

. But it requires some tinkering and good knowledge of linux commands and Xorg...
 In the meanwhile you can try this command if you have properly setup your xorg.conf file and screen resolution with prvsly explained command . Also before using following command , pl check if -o and -r are required in place of --output and --rotate .... "xrandr --help"  will show you all available options ..
 
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xrandr --output LVDS --auto --rotate normal --pos 0x0 --output VGA --auto --rotate left --right-of LVDS

 ... Note: From your given screen shots , it looks OK for screen rotation and your video card is : VGA integrated in AMD Geodeā„¢ LX 80024-bit TTL18-bit single-channel LVDS. Not sure if you require some AMD specific drivers or not !

Or if you know abt Openbox , Misalf has already shown the path with readymade script.
... Linux is interesting to explore. You never cease to learn ! :)

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Re: Screen rotate - can't deal
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2018, 03:15:32 PM »
Evidently I have too little experience  :(

If this
You could try xf86-video-ati + graphics-KERNEL without the xorg.conf snippets?
is a solution for my problem - how to try this?

I understand that I must install xf86-video-ati and in some way load graphics-KERNEL - but how??

I think that I found proper KERNEL http://teknoraver.net/software/geode/ ?


. But it requires some tinkering and good knowledge of linux commands and Xorg...

This is definitely above my strength.


Or if you know abt Openbox , Misalf has already shown the path with readymade script.
... Linux is interesting to explore. You never cease to learn ! :)

I don't know openbox but I will try to use it - maybe I manage with this (Wish me success)

I do not deny but I probably do not have the ability and the amount time that it requires.
I may be wrong but I have the impression that I have an exceptionally uphill with it.

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Re: Screen rotate - can't deal
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2018, 06:09:15 PM »
I really do not know ,  how much is your linux know-how in general and Tinycorelinux in perticular , as you have already said that you are a newbie ! But if you really do not know many small things like :
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If you forget to hit <ENTER> at the end of last line of the xorg.conf file,  it may not  work .
Then it is time , you better read FAQ and Wiki pages  , links of which are available at top side of this forum's index page.

 If a command with --verbose keyword is not giving any error, then you can try that command without --verbose option.

Also do you know that ,  you can also rotate screen in xvesa with following command :
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Xvesa --screen 640x480@90x24

Though I have not tried it in TCL !  Since I have Intel chipset with Intel graphics card supporting high resolutions , I never faced so many problems in Xorg -except slow speed due to less RAM !

 Lastly I would suggest , you better go one-step-at-a-time approach in TCL and allow some more time to experiment in Linux. Just try with xserver-xorg-video-ati extention loaded and then try " xrandr" command. See if any errors are repeated. You can always revert to prvs state by unloading the extention.

Also in older version of TCL , there was a bug in  the xf86-video-intel driver , but then applying  *xf86-video-intel v. 2.20.12*  had solved xrandr problems. Hopefully current version of TCL may  have solved many such problems without any patches.

In the mean-while keep reading and trying various options of "xrandr" command. Different distros with different hardware requires a lot of "try and error" approach. There is no Out-Of-Box   and Fit-for-all soln in Linux , as you already know it !

 Best Luck !

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Re: Screen rotate - can't deal
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2018, 10:01:41 PM »
Always when depends me on time The things can not go on my way. 

I found this https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/geode-linux-drivers.aspx

Well, I will continue try and fight. but probably without success.

Thank you guys for Time and help Special thanks for Pats for Pattiencie to my person

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Re: Screen rotate - can't deal
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2018, 11:08:32 PM »
Sorry for mistakes in previous post - I wrote it from mobile phone...

I want to say that I really wanted to make this quickly. (I don't know why I wrote "depends me")


I found tophic with similar problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-geode/+bug/377929 - when I look on it I tkink that this is probably to complex problem for me

And release note (from windows but for this graphics) http://files.fcopos.co.uk/EBN_DriverBankDVD/VersionC2/Driver/Main%20Board%20Driver/VGA/AMD%20LX800/SmartPOS/readme.txt


Maybe one of this driver will work for me https://github.com/bitrig/bitrig-xenocara/tree/master/driver/xf86-video-geode
https://github.com/freedesktop/xf86-video-cyrix

https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-geode/
https://www.x.org/wiki/GeodeDriver/

Pattiencie - patience (cell phone dictionary changed it - I don't know why)

One more time sorry for all mistakes.
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Re: Screen rotate - can't deal
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2018, 08:08:08 AM »
You are partlly correct about problems , but I already know that there were some updates available in Windoz , _XP etc for many _AMD chipsets to solve rotation and other errors. But a link provided by you shows manufacturers log mentioning abt rotation in 90 , 180 and 270 degrees !
.. So there must be a patch for linux also , but that procedure may be beyond the scope !
... But this thread must  be helpful to many newbies for linux knowledge , I hope !   :)