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Offline vinceASPECT

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pi zero w
« on: March 20, 2018, 05:30:13 AM »
Hello there all,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKvW59uk4PY

did this method improve any? since i was seeing "pi zero w's--- at 3 dollars (on offer) in the usa.

I believe this TCL version above uses about 70 megs of ram idle?

i wanted also to do the blue ray player OSMC thing for the pi...
https://osmc.tv/download/
https://osmc.tv/

It's also interesting (to me) ....... the fact that you can run any win32 or win64 software via DSL & your pi -----by just opening a TCL browser and going to the free Cameyo.com service and installing/executing tools there. (it also has CD quality sound)


Thx

V
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Re: pi zero w
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2018, 04:41:38 PM »
The pi-zero(w), even at the $3 price point is the wrong tool for the job you envision.

I can't speak for bmarkus, but I totally understand why these things are left to the user to install manually for the zero and keeps with the TC tradition of only including just what you need - the rest is up to you.

In this case, the zero is targeted primarily at makers / tinkerers / education on how to interface with robotics, controllers and such.  In many cases, they don't actually *need* ethernet, wifi, or bluetooth.  And if they did, putting those needed files in manually is a non-problem. :)

I'd say that even at a 30-cent pricepoint, the zero is still the wrong tool for multimedia, unless it is just for a one-off goof.  Don't get me wrong - I'm stoked at how well picore works as a general purpose desktop with Dillo browser, Aterm with terminus fonts etc, but multimedia or heavy duty websites - yeah, no.

If you are going to do that, pick up the latest if you want to stick to a PI: the Model 3B +.  Nice little improvement over the recent 3B.  Mine is coming tomorrow, but looks like I'll have to wait a while for the upstream firmware to make it down to a possible new release of PiCore.
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Re: pi zero w
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2018, 05:22:06 AM »
Uh not sure Sir  (PDP)

i know that for at least 66 percent of my post (specs) the pi zero works perfect.
1) That's a blue ray media centre (OSMC)  (check out youtube vids)
2) also for a general mutlimedia computer it works perfect via "omxplayer" and browsers like "lua kit" and "k-web"

So i am not sure what you mean pdp?.

It's quite a powerful desktop computer .....with the right tools.

As for the cameyo thing. i think it would work fine since it's just a HTML5 web page acting
as an RDP  (Lua kit or Kweb would do that).....maybe the CD sound over DSL would have issues....but otherwise no.

I have seen pi zero run fully compliant multimedia web browers perfect....for youtube and things like this.

thx

V

ps...yeah Sir....i think you are referring to PI ZERO just running TCL.....where-as my comments here are more general
........there are infact many many operating systems for the pi zero.....about 50......which demonstrate perfect usability
as a multimedia computer.

i think you may be inferring that WI FI and BLUTOOTH would slow it down or something?.
I don't believe WI FI does that since it's a dedicated chip and i am not sure blutoothe does either.
But never the less you can just use Ethernet DSL via those small 99 cents ETHER to USB dongles off ebay if speed is a
concern.
However all the multimeida PI zero demos' i have seen..... work flawlessly with WI FI.

V



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Re: pi zero w
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2018, 12:27:45 AM »
Must admit that the Zero-w has a better wifi antenna than even the 3b!  Zero-w utilizes board-trace antenna, whereas the 3b only uses an antenna in the chip itself.

The new 3B+ uses the enhanced board trace antenna, like the zero-w, so they learned something from the zero-w that was released after the 3B.  And the 3B+ is dual-band AC for us 5ghz fans.

Sure enough, I also run other OS like Rasbian, (and Armbian on my non-pi boards), but of course PiCore is my favorite.  So familiar with those.  And swapfiles, especially on a 512mb Pi-zero trying to run Chromium. :)

I guess what I'm trying to say is that most sub $50 Arm boards when put to the task of multimedia are chasing the performance of the lagging edge / discontinued models of very early Google chromebooks from years ago for example.

It all depends on one's level of comfort I suppose.




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Re: pi zero w
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2018, 07:41:24 AM »
sure PDP, yeah

i would not use Chromium on pi zero w........but sure the camey o trick and and browser like "lua kit" etc and then install and run Chromium through cameyo system on their servers (win64) version.

Lua kit and K web are quite extensive and perfect for pi zero w.

The nice thing is Kweb all integrates beautifully on pi zero with Omxplayer etc....and using multimedia etc.

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=40860
https://luakit.github.io/

but people DO use Chromium direct on Pi zero without issue. (the vids are on Youtube.)

yeah, WI FI improves as each generation advances. It seems.

thx

V

ps  "DietPi" is a good OS.
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Re: pi zero w
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2018, 02:31:13 PM »
Ye pdp
there are some nice things for the Pi....without using this forum as a blog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL1pWI2K60w

there is also a nice youtube tutorial on booting it from a USB PEN without using a Micro SD card....

there are tons of things you can do with it.....even using those Ethernet to USB .....99 cents dongles off ebay etc

so many things

th

V