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Offline deodion

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Core 8.0 x64, persistent isnt working, did alot based on wiki
« on: August 20, 2017, 06:15:45 AM »
I have Core 8.0 x64 installed in frugal,
I did everything based in wiki to make persistent,

for example putting bootlocal.sh in
/mnt/sda1/opt
/mnt/sda1/tce/opt
/mnt/sda1/tce/optional

the file contains:
sudo ln -s /lib /lib64

for /mnt/sda1/boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf
tried:
tinycore norestore tce=sda1 opt=sda1
or
norestore tce=sda1 opt=sda1
or
opt=sda1

it just doesnt work, its so amazing, I follow the wiki. Am I missing something again?

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Re: Core 8.0 x64, persistent isnt working, did alot based on wiki
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2017, 06:21:13 AM »
Judging by your comment, I believe you have your bootlocal.sh modified and want to keep it.
Did you perform a backup before you reboot?

In GUI, use filetool or exittc.
In prompt, use filetool.sh -bv.

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Re: Core 8.0 x64, persistent isnt working, did alot based on wiki
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2017, 06:29:53 AM »
Hi deodion
bootlocal.sh  belongs in your  /opt  directory and will automatically be include when you run a backup.

Using the  norestore  boot code tells the system not to restore the files you backed up.

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Re: Core 8.0 x64, persistent isnt working, did alot based on wiki
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2017, 07:16:27 AM »
Perhaps post output of
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showbootcodes

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Re: Core 8.0 x64, persistent isnt working, did alot based on wiki
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2017, 07:39:37 AM »
Hi deodion
One other thing, if you make  /opt  persistent, you need to remove any references to  opt  from your  /opt/filetool.lst  file.

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Re: Core 8.0 x64, persistent isnt working, did alot based on wiki
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2017, 07:48:53 AM »
How can I change anything like /opt/bootlocal.sh but when I reboot it, it will reload the fresh one (nothing inside)?

Are you guys saying all the persistent feature must be supervise by filetool.lst backup?

because there is no way to persist bootlocal.sh and bootsynnc.sh??

From what I see, /mnt/sda1/boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf alone is not working as explained in Wiki,
need to have at least the help of filetool.lst be backed up, from what I get there is no way to persist /opt/bootlocal.sh and bootsync.sh

I successfully reload backed bootlocal.sh
which contain: ln -s /lib /lib64

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Re: Core 8.0 x64, persistent isnt working, did alot based on wiki
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2017, 07:50:31 AM »
Hi deodion
One other thing, if you make  /opt  persistent, you need to remove any references to  opt  from your  /opt/filetool.lst  file.


Ohh mann this explain why,

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Re: Core 8.0 x64, persistent isnt working, did alot based on wiki
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2017, 08:13:30 AM »
Hi deodion
One other thing, if you make  /opt  persistent, you need to remove any references to  opt  from your  /opt/filetool.lst  file.

Are you saying to make this work, then I have to backup (mydata.tgz) with empty filetool.lst ?

This is the only logic I can see now,

Edit:
Hello Rich,
Please explain it how, thanks
I'm not comfortable asking too much basic question but wiki isnt helping me much,
« Last Edit: August 20, 2017, 08:36:38 AM by deodion »

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Re: Core 8.0 x64, persistent isnt working, did alot based on wiki
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2017, 08:40:34 AM »
Are you guys saying all the persistent feature must be supervise by filetool.lst backup?

The persistent feature is supervise by /opt/.filetool.lst and /opt/.xfiletool.lst

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because there is no way to persist bootlocal.sh and bootsynnc.sh??

Both bootlocal.sh and bootsync.sh should persist by default.

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From what I see, /mnt/sda1/boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf alone is not working as explained in Wiki,
need to have at least the help of filetool.lst be backed up, from what I get there is no way to persist /opt/bootlocal.sh and bootsync.sh

extlinux.conf is a config file for EXTLINUX, which specifies which  kernel to use, which initrd to load and what bootcodes to be passed.
The only bootcodes that matter are base and norestore.

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I successfully reload backed bootlocal.sh
which contain: ln -s /lib /lib64

Is that a success in backing up the files for you ?  ???

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Re: Core 8.0 x64, persistent isnt working, did alot based on wiki
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2017, 09:58:51 AM »

If both bootlocal.sh and bootsync.sh is persist by default, how come I can't change its config inside?
After reboot it just new blank ones,

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The only bootcodes that matter are base and norestore.
what is the use/meaning of opt=sda1 then?
I thought its like I have to have storage medium, then it will automatically load/read/write that /mnt/sda1/opt instead? which is logically simple?
But thats not what I'm getting,

I get the mydata.tgz reloaded after reboot,
it just contains: ln -s /lib /lib64 for testing,

I am really sorry guys, but it seems it doesnt have enough comprehension in wiki, how things working,

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Re: Core 8.0 x64, persistent isnt working, did alot based on wiki
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2017, 10:23:09 AM »
what is the use/meaning of opt=sda1 then?

The bootcode specify the path to a local opt directory on your disk.

In that case, you should remove "opt" from your /opt/.filetool.lst

Adjust /mnt/sda1/opt/bootlocal.sh

Backup (filetool.sh -bv)

Reboot

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Re: Core 8.0 x64, persistent isnt working, did alot based on wiki
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2017, 10:40:05 AM »
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The bootcode specify the path to a local opt directory on your disk.

In that case, you should remove "opt" from your /opt/.filetool.lst
Adjust /mnt/sda1/opt/bootlocal.sh
Backup (filetool.sh -bv)
Reboot

Is this in other words means: filetool.sh -bv knows which one to back up? which is backup: /mnt/sda1/opt/bootlocal.sh? NOT /opt/.... ?
and thats because of I removed "opt" from /opt/.filetool.lst or/and because of opt=sda1??

Because from what I understand is: by design TCL is always loaded new from (whatever it is: the corepure64.gz/vmlinuz) but has by default automatic restore if mydata.tgz is not zero?
« Last Edit: August 20, 2017, 10:42:44 AM by deodion »

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Re: Core 8.0 x64, persistent isnt working, did alot based on wiki
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2017, 06:06:08 PM »
Since you have opt specified via bootcode opt=sda1.
The opt in mydata.tgz may overwrite your local opt directory on your disk (/mnt/sda1/opt)

When TC boots with bootcode home=disk, opt=disk
The directories are created (on the disk) and linked to the system.
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ln -s /mnt/disk/home /home
ln -s /mnt/disk/opt /opt

Therefore, you should remove "opt" from your (/mnt/sda1)/opt/.filetool.lst in order to drop the opt directory from your mydata.tgz to prevent overwrite.
And modify your (/mnt/sda1)/opt/bootlocal.sh

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Re: Core 8.0 x64, persistent isnt working, did alot based on wiki
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2017, 08:57:54 PM »
@deodion   
Persistence can be confusing, but I'm sure you will find it easier to understand if you read Chapter 7.x  from the core book available in PDF format here http://tinycorelinux.net/book.html.

You'll know by now that there is more than one way to create persistent storage and each method will likely cause a conflict.

Given the default install for splunk is in /opt you'll probably want to use the opt=sda1 bootcode and disable opt from the backup, or disable backup altogether..?
« Last Edit: August 20, 2017, 09:01:15 PM by coreplayer2 »

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Re: Core 8.0 x64, persistent isnt working, did alot based on wiki
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2017, 02:12:44 AM »
@deodion   
Persistence can be confusing, but I'm sure you will find it easier to understand if you read Chapter 7.x  from the core book available in PDF format here http://tinycorelinux.net/book.html.

You'll know by now that there is more than one way to create persistent storage and each method will likely cause a conflict.

Given the default install for splunk is in /opt you'll probably want to use the opt=sda1 bootcode and disable opt from the backup, or disable backup altogether..?

Yes thank very much coreplayer2,