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Offline deodion

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Re: Installing TCL 8.0 x64 with Xorg-7.7.tcz Memory usage is high
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2017, 03:28:31 PM »
So assuming this is all normal, how can I disable X?

Dont u think its kind of too big, I mean 32 and 64 bit ram requirement?

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Re: Installing TCL 8.0 x64 with Xorg-7.7.tcz Memory usage is high
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2017, 03:44:27 PM »
The easiest way is not to load it in the first place. A server VM only needs open-vm-tools.tcz and the extensions for the services you want to run. Then when you connect to the VM console you get a text console instead.

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Re: Installing TCL 8.0 x64 with Xorg-7.7.tcz Memory usage is high
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2017, 05:45:41 PM »
Do I really need vmware tools if Im gonna run it by console only (core iso)?

Whats its function in TCL context?

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Re: Installing TCL 8.0 x64 with Xorg-7.7.tcz Memory usage is high
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2017, 07:10:45 PM »
VMtools will do time sync, let you gracefully shutdown the VM (stop databases, etc), pass guest status back to the ESXi host, and get host status from within the VM. In VMware workstation you could also mount host folders and copy/paste to/from the host.

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Re: Installing TCL 8.0 x64 with Xorg-7.7.tcz Memory usage is high
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2017, 02:21:56 AM »
Dont u think its kind of too big, I mean 32 and 64 bit ram requirement?
We couldn't reproduce your RAM issue. From what I see, it is not too big, Xorg running with 256mb and Xvesa running with 64mb or even less.
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Re: Installing TCL 8.0 x64 with Xorg-7.7.tcz Memory usage is high
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2017, 02:44:26 AM »
..and you could try Xfbdev

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Re: Installing TCL 8.0 x64 with Xorg-7.7.tcz Memory usage is high
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2017, 06:40:53 AM »
Dont u think its kind of too big, I mean 32 and 64 bit ram requirement?
We couldn't reproduce your RAM issue. From what I see, it is not too big, Xorg running with 256mb and Xvesa running with 64mb or even less.

Thanks for your support,
May be if you need to remote my VM, you can tell me,
I will rebuild it, you can tell me how to do it, in the VM part,
I will configure my router to accept SSH connection to this VM,

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Re: Installing TCL 8.0 x64 with Xorg-7.7.tcz Memory usage is high
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2017, 06:42:56 AM »
Hi deodion
Your  onboot.lst  file doesn't look right to me:


For example, here is the dependency tree for  Xprogs.tcz:
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Xprogs.tcz
   Xlibs.tcz
      libXfont.tcz
         freetype.tcz
         libfontenc.tcz
      libXi.tcz
         libXext.tcz
      libXmu.tcz
      libXpm.tcz
         libX11.tcz
            libxcb.tcz
      libXrandr.tcz
         libXext.tcz
         libXrender.tcz
            libX11.tcz
               libxcb.tcz
   fltk-1.3.tcz
   imlib2-bin.tcz
You have everyone of its dependencies listed as onboot. Dependencies are resolved automatically and should not be listed
in  onboot.lst.

I also see you have  Xfbdev.tcz  listed in addition to  Xorg-7.7.tcz.  You should probably only load one of those.

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Re: Installing TCL 8.0 x64 with Xorg-7.7.tcz Memory usage is high
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2017, 06:56:48 AM »
Hello Rich,
Thanks for your comment,

I'm just end-user of this TCL with basic Linux skill,
and I explained what I did, pretty much simple and nothing fancy,
just install, and thats it,

no other fancy-things I did before producing the unexpected RAM issue,
just straightforward, create vm, Paravirtual, VMXNET 3, enable cpu/ram hot add, load iso, tc-install-GUI, tce-load Xorg-7.7

tce-load open-vm-tools-desktop.tcz also produces the same RAM consumption,

but at the moment I just use Core8.0 x64, just installed it successfully,
and for my personal case, the need to have desktop just use Tiny Core 8.0 x86,
« Last Edit: August 19, 2017, 07:09:13 AM by deodion »

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Re: Installing TCL 8.0 x64 with Xorg-7.7.tcz Memory usage is high
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2017, 08:24:57 AM »

May be I just need to follow:
Your hardware list isn't required, because all VMware VM's have the same virtual hardware for a given version. In onboot.lst all you should need is:

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open-vm-tools-desktop.tcz
Xlibs.tcz
Xprogs.tcz
flwm_topside.tcz
wbar.tcz

Yes, you should follow what I said. If you don't, what do you think I'm going to recommend you do?