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Offline curaga

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Bye udev, nice knowing ya
« on: July 08, 2014, 01:53:51 AM »
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Lennart Poettering has declared that the time is close to removing the ability to run udev without systemd.
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Re: Bye udev, nice knowing ya
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2014, 02:25:20 AM »
Hopefully a clean udev fork will survive at least for a while.
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Re: Bye udev, nice knowing ya
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2014, 06:23:46 AM »
I saw a couple of distros had made a "systemd shim" to allow the timedate daemon to work without the rest of systemd - didn't manage to make it work on tc yet though...

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Re: Bye udev, nice knowing ya
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2014, 01:06:15 AM »
That shim is not a sustainable path. The systemd-udev will keep requiring more and more of systemd as time passes.
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Re: Bye udev, nice knowing ya
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2015, 09:27:20 AM »
Slackware has developed eudev - so alternatives are out there.
newbielink:http://www.blog.paranoidpenguin.net/2015/11/slackware-linux-is-moving-to-eudev/ [nonactive]

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Re: Bye udev, nice knowing ya
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2018, 07:29:03 PM »
erm, really old post but same topic I suppose ..

Speaking of slackware, I played around with PORTEUS, a slackware ram-based distro with what looks to be like "modules", which I suppose is somewhat in the same veign (but not exactly like) our on-demand.

Ver 4 supposedly any day now.  I suppose the lack of systemd, incorporating eudev, and the general slackware way of doing things, running in ram, this might be interesting to visit.  Got my first taste of vi on slackware back in '95.

Only 300mb.  I just need to cut out about 290mb, make busybox the init and login shell, and I'll be happy. :)  Interesting work.

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Re: Bye udev, nice knowing ya
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2018, 07:37:23 PM »
I started using Slackware back in the early 90's on a screamin' 486-40. Almost a quarter century of slackin'. Slackware has a build system but no dependencies, TC has dependencies but no build system. Maybe that's why I like TC, too. It fills a void for me.

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Re: Bye udev, nice knowing ya
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2018, 11:59:55 AM »
Funny you should say that - I get that same good feeling with TC / PiCore.  With Slackware, I had to *learn* stuff if I wanted something done my way.  Same with TC.

I didn't have a working cd-rom, but I had plenty of floppies and time as a young adult.  Downloaded it all by phone with mskermit on a shell account that I was totally lost in. :)

Even the Eudev thing kind of bugs me too.  Who knows where the Porteus guys may go.

 I don't know what's happening, but it seems the only way to *ensure* that we stay lean and mean is to use busybox as the main component.  And so far, that means Tinycore/picore/dcore.  Or as I'm using now testing midori, Slitaz (busybox init) rolling weekly 64-bit with the new kernel, but sad to see development seems to be in a slump other than rolling.
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