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Offline hiro

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2014, 12:55:09 PM »
i tried to understand what get-the-facts stuff you're talking about, but sadly "the page you requested cannot be found"
the link was cited on wikipedia: http://www.microsoft.com/err/windowsserver/facts/
if you ask me the real facts are: both MS and linux software is a huge complex mess, and tinycore does a nice amount of preselection to keep our heads clear for whatever awful stuff we all need to acchieve with these machines from hell.

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2014, 04:11:06 AM »
Wow, thanks! I have not seen such concentration of FUD and outright lies since MS published get-the-facts.

are you perhaps talking about these crazy attempts of propaganda:

? ::)

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2014, 05:13:16 AM »
I'm sure we're all interested in your detailed account on how exactly Landley lies.

He claims: blah-blah... Even if you were interested in cloning it (or a compatible subset of it), there's no "it" to clone. No spec, no clear goal... blah-blah...

Debunking this nonsense in trivial. Let me assist you with that:
1. Open browser.
2. Type "google.com"
3. Press enter.
4. Enter is a big key on the right side of keyboard
5. type "systemd api" and press enter again

Most likely the very first thing you'll get is http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/InterfacePortabilityAndStabilityChart/

Now, do you need me to help you learn double-clicking?

Offline curaga

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2014, 06:18:51 AM »
That kind of attitude is not welcome here. Once more and you're banned.
The only barriers that can stop you are the ones you create yourself.

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2014, 06:59:58 AM »
double-clicking? seriously now?   ::)
"Software gets slower faster than hardware gets faster." Niklaus Wirth - A Plea for Lean Software (1995)

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2014, 07:07:48 AM »
Nice:

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Note that not all of these interfaces are our invention (but most), we just adopted them in systemd to make them more prominently implemented. For example, we adopted many Debian facilities in systemd to push it into the other distributions as well.
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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2014, 07:19:27 AM »
Giving pushd a whole new meaning   ;D
"Software gets slower faster than hardware gets faster." Niklaus Wirth - A Plea for Lean Software (1995)

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2014, 04:55:20 AM »
double-clicking? seriously now?   ::)

Well, it's not much harder than googling is it? ;-)

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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2014, 05:12:02 AM »
Precisely!

But with some efforts one can pretend that he've never heard of those interfaces and that nothing is documented in systemd. All it takes is some ignorance and inability to google. Landley succeeded in that endeavour - others might follow that road as well.

It doesn't change the facts though :-)

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2014, 02:22:53 AM »
Just playing with CentOS7 and see, Red Hat moved to systemd. Wether I like it or not, I must use....
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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2014, 04:10:28 AM »
Oh, no worries, from Red Hat you can always expect the worse.

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2014, 08:16:04 AM »
Oh, no worries, from Red Hat you can always expect the worse.

It is not true. RHEL is stable, reliable platform and now release 7 comes with nice features as well as finally they have recent packages, like Python 2.7.5, Apache httpd 2.4, Tomcat 7, dropped MySQL on favour of MariaDB, etc. In corporate environment usually RHEL is the only accepted LINUX platform. We are using 6.x without any issues, except, except lack of recent packages, see above. But with 7 it is gone.

CentOS now follows RHEL much faster then before as key developers are payed full time by REDHAT since January.

For me the problem now is only systemd, as setting up the system is changed and I have to relearn ho to manage the system which is wasting a time. But this is the life. Everything is changing.
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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2014, 11:55:00 PM »
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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2014, 07:37:28 AM »
I think systemd is OK for big distros but it is too big in itself for using on light weight distros such as this (& others that I use/like), hopefully sense will prevail, & we will not lose the unix philosophy of small programs integrating to create a system.
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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2014, 07:59:56 AM »
I think systemd is OK for big distros but it is too big in itself for using on light weight distros such as this (& others that I use/like), hopefully sense will prevail, & we will not lose the unix philosophy of small programs integrating to create a system.

It is not about size.
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