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Offline suare

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systemd plans
« on: April 22, 2014, 01:18:13 AM »
Tried to search through forum but found nothing - are there any plans to add systemd into core?
Seems like it will be able to replace bunch of packages at once potentially saving some space and speeding things up. Also it will bring interface on-par with major distros out there.

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2014, 01:34:19 AM »
Seems like it will be able to replace bunch of packages at once potentially saving some space and speeding things up. Also it will bring interface on-par with major distros out there.

Which packages you mean? Can you provide figures on space saving and speed gain?

In general, it is not a goal to be on-par with major (?) distros. TC is different specially on the area covered by systemd.

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2014, 02:49:19 AM »
No, we will not be moving to systemd. It would bring much added size and complexity, and I'm not particularly fond of the politics of that project either.

If you take a look, most of our core packages come from busybox, not separate packages.
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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2014, 03:06:04 AM »
Agreed - somewhat unfortunately even LFS (see svn) appears to have thrown in the towel  :(

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2014, 08:20:42 AM »
this is why i love tinycore :)
thanks again.

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2014, 11:03:52 AM »
Comforting to hear  :D
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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2014, 04:37:28 PM »
Seems like it will be able to replace bunch of packages at once potentially saving some space and speeding things up. Also it will bring interface on-par with major distros out there.


Reading suggestion:


http://boycottsystemd.org/
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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2014, 10:33:21 PM »
Thanks for sharing!
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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2014, 05:29:33 AM »
Seems like it will be able to replace bunch of packages at once potentially saving some space and speeding things up. Also it will bring interface on-par with major distros out there.


Reading suggestion:


http://boycottsystemd.org/

FYI most of those claims are invalid, misinformed and some are even outdated (esp that about glibc dependency).

Systemd has its shortcomings, and people are worried about userspace integrating with it, but most of the problems are not solely to blame on systemd.

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2014, 04:00:43 PM »
Reading suggestion:

LOL, as if I have not seen enough of this FUD during pathetic whining in ctte ML :)

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2014, 04:46:59 AM »
'looks like lfs are fixing to ditch systemd after a short trial in svn

..as an aside, most of gnome-3 seems to work on corepure64 without it.

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2014, 09:52:16 AM »
perhaps a bit more tempered arguments:
http://landley.net/notes-2014.html#23-04-2014

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2014, 11:58:26 PM »
Thanks for this link, interesting  :)
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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2014, 06:51:18 AM »
http://landley.net/notes-2014.html#23-04-2014

Wow, thanks! I have not seen such concentration of FUD and outright lies since MS published get-the-facts.

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Re: systemd plans
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2014, 10:06:11 AM »
I'm sure we're all interested in your detailed account on how exactly Landley lies.
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