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Offline gerald_clark

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Re: Difficulties with CorePlus installation to a pendrive
« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2014, 08:40:04 PM »
Read the book http://tinycorelinux.net/book.html
It explains the backup options.

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Re: Difficulties with CorePlus installation to a pendrive
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2014, 04:57:20 AM »
Hi, Juanito.

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You need to shut down and reboot without a backup so that a clean, known state is reached.
What will get lost if I do that? Will I lose my configurations and my documents?

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Note that you can also achieve this by entering "norestore" at the boot prompt.
I don't think there is a no restore choice on the screen I get when I boot. It just has choices about copying the OS to RAM, and such. But there is a backup choice when I shutdown: None, Safe, and Backup. Should I choose None?

Mike
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Re: Difficulties with CorePlus installation to a pendrive
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2014, 05:37:56 AM »
If you have not saved your documents to permanent storage they will be lost. As a safety measure, you could copy the mydata* files to permanent storage and delete them from their current location.

For the purposes of getting things sorted out, it would be better to choose the backup choice "none".

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Re: Difficulties with CorePlus installation to a pendrive
« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2014, 07:26:27 AM »
Hi Mike7
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- New mydata.gz file in /mnt/sdb1/tce/
- New mydata.gz file in /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/
Those are both physically the same file.  /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/  is a link to  /mnt/sdb1/tce/
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- An empty directory /mnt/sdb1/tce/tce/
- An empty directory /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/tce/
Those are both the same directory.

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Re: Difficulties with CorePlus installation to a pendrive
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2014, 05:13:56 PM »
Hi, Rich.

Thanks. I  thought that /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/ was probably a reflection of tce/ in /mnt/sdb1/, but I wasn't sure.

But should the tce/ directory in /mnt/sdb1/tce/ be empty, or be there at all? In other words, what the heck is an empty /mnt/sdb1/tce/tce/ directory doing there?

M.
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Re: Difficulties with CorePlus installation to a pendrive
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2014, 05:20:06 PM »
It will be empty if you have not installed any extensions, nor done a backup.

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Re: Difficulties with CorePlus installation to a pendrive
« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2014, 05:50:08 PM »
Hi, juanito.

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If you have not saved your documents to permanent storage they will be lost.

I've been saving them to a folder I created in the tce directory. Perhaps I shouldn't do that, but it works. (Maybe it messes up some config files, but so far everything seems okay.)

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As a safety measure, you could copy the mydata* files to permanent storage and delete them from their current location.

I can see saving a copy to another disk outside core as a safe backup, but why would I want to delete them from core?

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For the purposes of getting things sorted out, it would be better to choose the backup choice "none".

You may be right about that, but I just went with whatever the shutdown dialogue gave me as a default. I figured it knew best. Now what can I do? I've already done one "Safe" backup and one "Backup" backup. <grin>

This is becoming like a Chinese puzzle.

For the purposes of clarity, I suppose I could, as you say, delete the mydata.gz file again and shut down with "None" in the shutdown dialogue. I just don't really want to lose the extensions I've downloaded.

The alternative is re-installing from scratch. But it seems like giving up.

Mike
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Re: Difficulties with CorePlus installation to a pendrive
« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2014, 06:04:08 PM »
Hi, Gerald.

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It will be empty if you have not installed any extensions, nor done a backup.

Ah, but you see I have done both those things.  :)

I may be all wrong, but I suspect that this /mnt/sdb1/tce/tce/ directory shouldn't be there at all and that it's just the result of having put tce=sdb1 into the Installer when the Installer creates the tce directory automatically anyway.

I don't know what my personal solution to this is, but to keep it from happening to anyone else how about removing tce =xxx from the list of boot code options in the Installer?

M.
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Re: Difficulties with CorePlus installation to a pendrive
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2014, 06:09:54 PM »
Post the output of "showbootcodes".

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Re: Difficulties with CorePlus installation to a pendrive
« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2014, 06:35:16 PM »
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Post the output of "showbootcodes".

That's tricky, because I would have to switch to TCL to get them, and then switch back to Puppy to post them. (I have to use Puppy Linux to communicate with the forum because I don't yet have a web browser in TCL.)

But since I haven't changed any boot codes (not intentionally, anyhow), they should still be the same as when I edited extlinux.conf (see Feb. 15th posts):

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tc@box:~$ showbootcodes
initrd=/tce/boot/core.gz loglevel=3 waitusb=10:UUID="6065ad4c-d216-48bb-a7c1-c538c02a42ed" tce=UUID="6065ad4c-d216-48bb-a7c1-c538c02a42ed" BOOT_IMAGE=/tce/boot/vmlinuz

Those are the boot codes that juanito and coreplayer2 advised me to put into extlinux.conf.

Note that tce=sdb1 was removed, yet there is a suspicious-looking empty directory /mnt/sdb1/tce/tce/ that /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/tce/ has created.

M.
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Re: Difficulties with CorePlus installation to a pendrive
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2014, 07:26:56 PM »
I can see saving a copy to another disk outside core as a safe backup, but why would I want to delete them from core?
Because, due to the fact you had both a back-up and persistent home and opt set, the backup is probably messed up.

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For the purposes of clarity, I suppose I could, as you say, delete the mydata.gz file again and shut down with "None" in the shutdown dialogue. I just don't really want to lose the extensions I've downloaded.
Extensions should be on persistent storage and not in your backup

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Re: Difficulties with CorePlus installation to a pendrive
« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2014, 09:00:12 PM »
Curaga-

I directed two posts (#s 37 & 39 above) to Gerald Clark that I think maybe should have been addressed to you as well.

As you can see from this series of posts, adding tce=xxx to the boot codes in the Installer app is not only redundant (we all agree about that, right?) but seems to have messed up part of the filesystem, creating a weird empty /mnt/sdb1/tce/tce/ directory, if nothing worse. (Or am I wrong and /mnt/sdb1/tce/tce/ really is supposed to be there?)

Since you were reasonable enough to add an explanatory label to that page of the Installer, how about also removing tce=xxx from the list of possible add-in boot codes  so that no one makes the same mistake I did?

Cheers!

Mike
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Re: Difficulties with CorePlus installation to a pendrive
« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2014, 09:10:21 PM »
No, it is not redundant.  The tce directory can be on a drive other than the boot drive, or on a different partition.

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Re: Difficulties with CorePlus installation to a pendrive
« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2014, 09:42:05 PM »
In any case, I slugged in a few of the boot codes (like tce=sdb1, home=sdb1, and restore=sdb1) without knowing what I was doing, just for the heck of it.

You know, perhaps we could have avoided a lot of problems by letting the installer use it's defaults?   I think I said before, I'd start over

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Re: Difficulties with CorePlus installation to a pendrive
« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2014, 09:45:54 PM »
Gerald-

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No, it is not redundant.  The tce directory can be on a drive other than the boot drive, or on a different partition.

But the Installer automatically puts tce=UUID=xxx into extlinux.conf, doesn't it? Does adding a tce=yyy boot code override the xxx UUID?  If so, how do you explain that the Installer created a tce directory inside the tce directory (/mnt/sdb1/tce/tce/)?

M.
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