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aus9

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Re: Tiny Core 5.0 Alpha 2 Testing
« Reply #75 on: June 17, 2013, 04:55:43 PM »
tinypoodle

offtopic, so opera-next is supposed to be a rolling release name for the beta?

To all good looking TC users  :P
Its no-one's fault, but TC has the most number of web browsers I have ever seen in a distro. And to simpletons like me, thats confusing.

I would like to see a opera.tcz that is a rolling release in the same way firefox is used.

This is a subtle hint to coreplayer2 that I have dismissed ideas at updaing shiretoko and am looking at some other web browsers.

I may be wrong to say rolling release but I hope you know what I mean.

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Re: Tiny Core 5.0 Alpha 2 Testing
« Reply #76 on: June 17, 2013, 06:26:22 PM »
Opera-next may be either alpha or beta, at current it's at 15, based on Blink, but available for win & OSX only. Stable release is 12.15 based on Presto.
To get back ontopic, I meant to hint it might be preferable not to introduce any Opera-next extension into 5.x repo at current.
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Re: Tiny Core 5.0 Alpha 2 Testing
« Reply #77 on: June 17, 2013, 07:18:41 PM »
Well, until there are some official TC5 browsers, I used the only ones I could get running.
All the other ones seem to depend on XPCOM or libpng12.

My point was actually that CUPS was working.  I was just using Opera to print some graphic pages.

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Re: Tiny Core 5.0 Alpha 2 Testing
« Reply #78 on: June 17, 2013, 07:21:43 PM »
While "parted" appears to function,  "Gparted" suffers from the libpng issue


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Re: Tiny Core 5.0 Alpha 2 Testing
« Reply #79 on: June 17, 2013, 08:20:24 PM »
While "parted" appears to function,  "Gparted" suffers from the libpng issue

I'll add gparted to the list of extensions to recompile, but I'm thinking of waiting until the new Xorg is ready

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Re: Tiny Core 5.0 Alpha 2 Testing
« Reply #80 on: June 18, 2013, 06:30:21 AM »
Hi gang

After spitting the dummy I picked it up and put alpha on a USB stick when I realized that using Vbox was probalby not going to work the way I hoped.
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I am really on it

When clicking on readline in apps I found some quirks so here is a quick clicking on each app and reporting the ones you will probably want to change or investigate
LH=left hand list  RH=right hand list name

All readlines  RH claim they file*
acl-dev  RH says its tcz ends in tcze
libpciaccess (nothing wrong) but suggest it become libpci-access

Extra suggestion before we get to next alpha cut
In LH pane some filenames are too long due to mainly the use of -tinycore
eg
input-table-touchscreen-tinycore *   Could you consider abbreviating -tinycore to -TC?

Yes I know I am lazy and can just click on the file to see the true name on RH side

Possible missing files?

wl-modules-3.8.10 exists but not its 64 cousin?

Curaga

Great job on doing all those Xorg stuff
Any chance you review and add
the xf86-video-nouveau* package?

Thanks for reading, real testing later

Typed on opera9.

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Re: Tiny Core 5.0 Alpha 2 Testing
« Reply #81 on: June 18, 2013, 07:04:24 AM »
Hi

regarding a revisit to firefox

I was able to get a firefox.tcz to load using a mixture of alpha and 4.x TCZ to say "ok" but running the executable borks.

Here is a little more info that I used etc
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tc@box:/usr/local/firefox$ strings libxpcom.so  | grep libxul*
libxul.so

tc@box:/usr/local/firefox$ strings libxul.so | grep libpng*
libpng warning: %s
libpng error: %s
libpng version 1.5.14 - January 24, 2013
libpng version 1.5.14 - January 24, 2013

(To get firefox.tcz say it was ok when it isn't)
 sudo ln -s /usr/local/lib/libpng.so libpng12.so.0

I will now have a look at the source as thats what I downloaded for minefield.

thanks for reading

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Re: Tiny Core 5.0 Alpha 2 Testing
« Reply #82 on: June 18, 2013, 08:22:10 AM »
Juanito

That list in apps is looking great!

If I just choose download only, apps says its using the -w function
could that be changed to -wl?

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Re: Tiny Core 5.0 Alpha 2 Testing
« Reply #83 on: June 18, 2013, 12:32:49 PM »
Having a nouveau 2d driver would not be that useful since we don't ship the kernel driver for it.
The only barriers that can stop you are the ones you create yourself.

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Re: Tiny Core 5.0 Alpha 2 Testing
« Reply #84 on: June 18, 2013, 04:44:31 PM »
curaga

fair enough

Juanito
small change to "long TCZ name" like input-tablet-touchscreen-3.8.10-tinycore.tcz suggestion.

As the user is looking for touchscreen support, they could already guess its an input, it could become
tablet-touchscreen-3.8.10-tinycore.tcz or tablet-touchscreen-3.8.10-TC.tcz

thanks for reading

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Re: Tiny Core 5.0 Alpha 2 Testing
« Reply #85 on: June 18, 2013, 04:52:08 PM »
Juanito

re-visiting an earlier request for animation png stuff, for firefox, do you mean an animated gif?
If so, opera9 correctly displays this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rotating_earth_(large).gif

If that is not an adequate test, can you expand on what you want tested please, when you get a chance?

The reason I ask is, minefield is built from 100 Meg source and takes a very long time to compile on 4x.
(not yet tried on alpha). So it be nice to have some links I can go to, to prove or disprove we have libpng issues resolved?

Originally, my planned 4x build stripped off the dev files as firefox and seamonkey were not compiles but just download and repacks. Sorry to waffle on, but obviously if minefield works, its dev files will then be used to build firefox and seamonkey etc......pretending I know I am talking about.

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Re: Tiny Core 5.0 Alpha 2 Testing
« Reply #86 on: June 18, 2013, 08:17:06 PM »
re-visiting an earlier request for animation png stuff, for firefox, do you mean an animated gif?

..from the blfs libpng section:

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Optional patch to include animated png functionality in libpng (required to use the system libpng in Firefox)

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Re: Tiny Core 5.0 Alpha 2 Testing
« Reply #87 on: June 18, 2013, 11:39:11 PM »
Juanito

thanks for the quick reply ....on another matter, I still feel terrible! This is becoming a habit. I deliberately put alpha onto a usb stick....I won't expand on that point unless prompted and only just discovered I can't find the unpack tczs

first I load opera9 so I can post and I find that ok

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ls -al /tmp/tcloop
total 0
drwxrwxr-x    3 root     staff           60 Jun 19 06:30 ./
drwxrwxrwt    5 root     staff          260 Jun 19 06:30 ../
drwxr-xr-x    4 root     root            49 Oct 16  2009 opera9/


but

ls /usr/local/tce.installed/
Xlibs         Xvesa         fltk-1.1.10   freetype      jpeg          opera9
Xprogs        aterm         flwm_topside  imlib2        libpng        wbar

So how can you trust me, that I might be doing correct testing when I seem to have a bad build?

any clues.

I might add that all of the others are the onboot tczs as showing in

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Xvesa.tcz
Xlibs.tcz
Xprogs.tcz
flwm_topside.tcz
wbar.tcz
aterm.tcz
freetype.tcz
libpng.tcz
jpeg.tcz
aterm.tcz
imlib2.tcz
fltk-1.1.10.tcz

cheers

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Re: Tiny Core 5.0 Alpha 2 Testing
« Reply #88 on: June 19, 2013, 06:25:37 AM »
Packages that are loaded into the filesystem will not appear in /etc/tcloop because they are not loop mounted.

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Re: Tiny Core 5.0 Alpha 2 Testing
« Reply #89 on: June 19, 2013, 07:20:29 AM »
Now playing mp3s with xmms.  I have no vorbis files to test.
The only extensions needed that are not already in the repo:

xmms.tcz
libvorbis.tcz