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Offline zerophnx

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Re: Is my TC boot time correct ?
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2013, 08:30:16 AM »
Is this it? I don't know anything about this device, so it might be unrelated.

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ata1: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0x1f0 ctl 0x3f6 bmdma 0xd000 irq 14
ata2: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xd008 irq 15

I had to fight our thin clients (WYSE S30,S50,9150SE) to get access to their local storage. Hopefully this will be simpler than what I had to go through them working.

Can you test using another distro or installation disc (such as the Gentoo 'installer' or Parted Magic) just see if it shows up? If it does, the dmesg should help.


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Re: Is my TC boot time correct ?
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2013, 10:25:26 AM »
Those are empty IDE ports. If you can't find a way to access the flash chip, you could add an IDE drive of your own: a hd, ssd or a CF/SD card with adapter.
The only barriers that can stop you are the ones you create yourself.

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Re: Is my TC boot time correct ?
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2013, 02:43:12 AM »
I tried UBCD, loaded via another USB stick.

it confirms that there isn't any ATA drive (hide, lock... nothing), so I don't know how to access the DoM :'(

is this the IDE port to plug an adaptater ?


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Re: Is my TC boot time correct ?
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2013, 04:18:28 AM »
Yes

44 pins looks like a laptop to me, and the adapter will be 40 pins similar to
(44 is RH connector)



The adapter takes care of the fact that most normal ide cables have one pin filled in, to make it idiot proof
(helps me)  :P

so 44 pins to 40 pins which is really 39 pins
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA

good luck

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Re: Is my TC boot time correct ?
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2013, 04:50:55 AM »
44 pins looks like a laptop to me, and the adapter will be 40 pins similar to
(44 is RH connector)
Except I know of exactly 0 drives that have the traditional 40-pin and only need 5VDC.  All 3.5" and 5.25" HDDs that I've seen use 12VDC on the spindle

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Re: Is my TC boot time correct ?
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2013, 05:09:55 AM »
Hi Kivlov
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it confirms that there isn't any ATA drive (hide, lock... nothing), so I don't know how to access the DoM
is this the IDE port to plug an adaptater ?
Yes, that is the IDE port and the DoM is a small board that plugs right on top of it. Since it's not there, you should have
a DoC (Disk on Chip). Look at this picture:
http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/neoware/CA2/CA2board.shtml
See the empty socket above the battery? Yours should have a chip in there.

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Re: Is my TC boot time correct ?
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2013, 05:12:32 AM »
of course I have this chip (32mb DoM with this Neoware), but I don't know why I can't access to it and why I don't see it anywhere :'(

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Re: Is my TC boot time correct ?
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2013, 05:22:54 AM »
Hi Kivlov
You likely need a driver to access it. The part number of the chip would be helpful to try to locate a driver.

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Re: Is my TC boot time correct ?
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2013, 05:46:54 AM »
I have another chip next to me (one with Windows CE instead of Neolinux, but it's the same chip and hardware). those are the numbers I can read, maybe it can help :

(stickers on the chip)
DOC : 32MB   BH01CB703437736EM
YYE932

(behind the stickers)
MD2202-D32
43303403773
Ver. 4.2
DiskOnChip 2000

edit : I found a pic, mine is the same.

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Re: Is my TC boot time correct ?
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2013, 10:14:29 PM »
Hi Kivlov
The web is littered with threads and write ups about booting from DoC. One problem is the vast majority of these are 10 to
15 years old and refer to kernel versions 2.0, 2.2, or 2.4. The other problem is they all require either patching a kernel
and/or patching grub or using lilo or loadlin. Judge for yourself, here are a couple of links to show what you are in for:
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Disk-on-Chip-HOWTO/install.html
http://lakeshoremicro.com/diskonchip-grub-howto.html
I think you would be better off getting yourself a DoM like this:
http://www.kazame.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/tc-dom-closeup.jpg
It should show up as a standard IDE drive.

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Re: Is my TC boot time correct ?
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2013, 12:57:11 AM »
thank you for those links and explanations ! I think that the IDE adaptator is the best solution (or the easiest... ;D).

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Re: Is my TC boot time correct ?
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2013, 07:37:34 AM »
Hi Kivlov
If DoMs are hard to come by or overly expensive in your locale, a 44 pin CF adapter connected with a 44 pin ribbon
cable should also work.

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Re: Is my TC boot time correct ?
« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2013, 08:57:19 AM »
CF on a 44-pin laptop IDE sounds like an awesome idea, especially if you want lower noise and probably more shock resistance.

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Re: Is my TC boot time correct ?
« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2013, 04:15:49 PM »
They also make IDE SD card adapters.