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Re: Lost TCP Desktop Icons
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2013, 05:18:31 PM »
Hi eltone
The file is called
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onboot.lstnot
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onboot.1stThat should be a lower case L, not a one.

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Re: *SOLVED* Lost TCP Desktop Icons
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2013, 01:10:43 AM »
Yes, you ran out of RAM and thus udev and some extensions failed to load. To get the usual GUI you can use the "base" bootcode.

How much RAM does the system have?
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Re: *SOLVED* Lost TCP Desktop Icons
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2013, 01:31:25 AM »
Also, do you have any swap activated at boot time?
If not, then such might potentially ease the situation.
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Re: *SOLVED* Lost TCP Desktop Icons
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2013, 09:32:46 AM »
Yes, you ran out of RAM and thus udev and some extensions failed to load. To get the usual GUI you can use the "base" bootcode.

How much RAM does the system have?

Hi curaga,

Can "base" bootcode be a constant, or only after the fact?  It would be nice to have an error trap in TCP, so this would never happen!  This PC has 1 GB RAM, that was just upgraded.

eltone

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Re: *SOLVED* Lost TCP Desktop Icons
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2013, 09:43:51 AM »
It means "don't load any extensions", so using it constantly would be pointless ;)
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Re: *SOLVED* Lost TCP Desktop Icons
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2013, 09:47:56 AM »
Also, do you have any swap activated at boot time?
If not, then such might potentially ease the situation.

Greetings tinypoodle!

I can't say for sure if there is any 'swap'  activated at boot time.  All I have done for the Linux swap file, is have Gparted create a 256 MB space on the thumb drive.

Q: What is a bare minimum amount of 'swap' and what is the syntax to activate it at boot time?

If this is the root cause, it has got to be nipped in the bud!

thanks,
eltone


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Re: *SOLVED* Lost TCP Desktop Icons
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2013, 10:28:38 AM »
Unless you have the 'nozswap' boot option,  RAM will be used for compressed swap.
All mkswap formatted partitions found will automatically be activated.
Thumb drives make poor swap devices.

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Re: *SOLVED* Lost TCP Desktop Icons
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2013, 12:05:16 PM »
Unless you have the 'nozswap' boot option,  RAM will be used for compressed swap.
All mkswap formatted partitions found will automatically be activated.
Thumb drives make poor swap devices.

Hi gerald_clark,
Up to now, default boot options have been used. 

Q: Selecting the fast, compressed swap, in RAM, is accomplished using which boot option?

thanks,
eltone

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Re: *SOLVED* Lost TCP Desktop Icons
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2013, 12:11:20 PM »
It is enabled by default.  You must use the noted option to turn it off.

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Re: *SOLVED* Lost TCP Desktop Icons
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2013, 03:09:18 PM »
I can't say for sure if there is any 'swap'  activated at boot time.  All I have done for the Linux swap file, is have Gparted create a 256 MB space on the thumb drive.
This sounds confusing...
gparted could be used to create swap partitions but hardly would get involved to create swap files.

If you search the web, there is a gazillion of tutorials how to create and manage swap space under Linux ;)

Particular to core is that swap partitions get auto scanned for at boot, while a swap file should be named "tc.swp" in combination with boot code:
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swapfile{=hda1}            Scan or Specify swapfile
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Q: What is a bare minimum amount of 'swap' and what is the syntax to activate it at boot time?
The bare minimum depends entirely on needs created by particular usage, you should rather ask yourself what is the bare minimum of extensions to be loaded onboot.

Should you ever want to hibernate, then there will be a minimum of swap space, but even the size for that is usage dependent.
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Re: Lost TCP Desktop Icons
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2013, 03:17:43 PM »
I am not clear on what device is out of space. Is it the root file system?
If so, remove some applications from onboot.lst.
Not sure about this, but given the fact that in mount mode extensions would populate rootfs mainly with symlinks, perhaps there could be a possibility such a message would be the result of running out of inodes?
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